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post #151 of 187
Your theater looks great!! Very nice build for a reasonable budget. Have you ever considered going darker on your ceiling color? It makes a huge difference in picture quality with a projector. Your black level improve a great deal. Not a criticism by any means....your room again looks very good. Just a thought.
post #152 of 187
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Thanks for the nice words jandawil.

I thought about painting the ceiling black, but when it came down to it, I gave a bit more weight to the room's aesthetics in deciding the ceiling color. I did however paint the ceiling a flat beige color (Benjamin Moore's Putnam Ivory). While not black, the flat ivory is a lot better than the white semi-gloss that was on previously.
post #153 of 187
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Thanks for the nice words jandawil.

I thought about painting the ceiling black, but when it came down to it, I gave a bit more weight to the room's aesthetics in deciding the ceiling color. I did however paint the ceiling a flat beige color (Benjamin Moore's Putnam Ivory). While not black, the flat ivory is a lot better than the white semi-gloss that was on previously.

Good enough....as long as you're happy with it. Aesthetics are also important. If not all our home theaters would have big ugly acoustic panels and bass traps all over the walls with huge diffuser panels in the rear. Somewhere in the middle is a happy medium.
post #154 of 187
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I haven't gotten a chance to listen yet, but my HT is featured in today's HTGuy's Podcast! (Jan. 18th, 2008 Podcast# 242)

There's a link on their website with some pictures of my room.

Here's the link. Look for ** Featured Listener Home Theater - Matt's Theater, with a Twist **

http://www.htguys.com/archive/2008/January18.html
post #155 of 187
Great theater, thanks for all the photos. Bet you & your wife are loving every minute you two get top spend in that theater.

Any updates or changes since you last posted !

John
post #156 of 187
perhaps think about painting the wall behind the LACk unit black....it would then look like it is enclosed....you would get ll the airflow but the cords and stuff would not be very nocticable at all.

might work nice and be real easy.

and maybe some black wall plates and outlets instead of the beige and white ones you have now.

looks good!
post #157 of 187
post #158 of 187
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Good job, I went from this: http://www.itsallbutstraw.com/galler...g2_itemId=5351
To this: http://www.itsallbutstraw.com/galler...g2_itemId=8165

In 5 weeks ;-)

Wow. Great work akakillroy. Hope you're enjoying life with the HT.
post #159 of 187
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Hello all. It's been a long while since I last updated this thread. As you could imagine, I've been happily engaged with my HT for quite a while. The wife and I still watch a ton of flicks down there and we're just as thrilled as the first time we fired it up.

With that said, the completion of this HT is now approaching the 1.5 year mark. Technology has advanced and so has my urge to add to the theater. I just feel that every time I watch a BD, I'm missing out on something. So.... I upgraded my receiver! More specifically, to the Denon AVR-1909! Lossless Audio and Audyssey, here I come! Weeeeeeeee!!

I expect the AVR to arrive soon after Christmas. I can't wait to get rid of those digital optical cables and replace them with a single HDMI. Should also clean things up a bit behind all my equipment. Another update is in store once the new AVR arrives....
post #160 of 187
Thanks for the update. Without it, I don't think I would have ever found this thread. I just finished reading through all 6 pages and really like how your room turned out. It looks like a very comfy, cozy place to watch a movie.

You're going to love the lossless audio.
post #161 of 187
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Well, I got the Denon 1909 up and running. I ran Audyssey MultEQ to auto calibrate my speakers. I'm amazed at the accuracy of the results. Everything seems to work as advertised.

As my first sample piece, I demoed Casino Royale's Lossless PCM track (4.6mbps). WOW! My wife even came rushing downstairs to tell my how awesome it sounded.

Now for the pictures I promised....



post #162 of 187
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I also got a couple new decor pieces for the HT since I last posted....





post #163 of 187
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My PS3 and HD-A2 are still getting along nicely.....



Denon 1909 next to the D* H20



I swear you can't see those cables while seated.
I'd still like to make a few minor cosmetic touches as far as painting the outlet covers and putting a backing on the component shelf.....



Best seat in the house. 92" from 10'.



post #164 of 187
Nice Theater! Like what you did on such a "small" budget and space. Make's me feel like I can get my basement done soon....
post #165 of 187
Looks good! The only thing i would have done pre-constuction would have been to move your 3 outlets lower toward the base board. That plus a back on your rack would have made for an EXTERMELY clean presentation, otherwise EXCELLENT job on your HT!
post #166 of 187
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Looks good! The only thing i would have done pre-constuction would have been to move your 3 outlets lower toward the base board. That plus a back on your rack would have made for an EXTERMELY clean presentation, otherwise EXCELLENT job on your HT!

Thanks for the compliments.

As for the outlets, I wish I could've done something about that, but the walls were pre-existing when I transformed this room, so moving outlets would've been tricky.
post #167 of 187
paint the wall plates the color of the wall.
post #168 of 187
It sure is looking awesome!

I had the same problem with cables showing against the wall from the back of the gear in the AV rack. My problem was actually worse as the AV rack is in built in cabinets and is at eye level. Solution: A flat black cloth over a cardboard cutout then tacked to the wall to the height of the top shelf behind the AV rack. Using all black cables (cable shrouds for the few non-black cables) and you cannot see *any* cables behind the rack unless you had a flashlight.

You might be able to simply tack a simple black cloth to the back of your shelves to accomplish this, dunno.

Just an idea.
post #169 of 187
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It sure is looking awesome!

I had the same problem with cables showing against the wall from the back of the gear in the AV rack. My problem was actually worse as the AV rack is in built in cabinets and is at eye level. Solution: A flat black cloth over a cardboard cutout then tacked to the wall to the height of the top shelf behind the AV rack. Using all black cables (cable shrouds for the few non-black cables) and you cannot see *any* cables behind the rack unless you had a flashlight.

You might be able to simply tack a simple black cloth to the back of your shelves to accomplish this, dunno.

Just an idea.

Good idea Toby. I may have to head to the fabric store soon.
post #170 of 187
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Good idea Toby. I may have to head to the fabric store soon.

I just purchased the cheapest flat black bed sheet they had at WalMart. I think it was $3. When cut that should be plenty to cover the entire length of your shelves, assuming it works for ya.
post #171 of 187
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I just purchased the cheapest flat black bed sheet they had at WalMart. I think it was $3. When cut that should be plenty to cover the entire length of your shelves, assuming it works for ya.

Not a bad idea either. Your full of great ideas Toby. Thanks.
post #172 of 187
Wow, great job. When I read your 1st post, I thought, what! 2k on seating and 900 on the pj, but I see why now. Looks awesome. Did you consider painting just the soffit above the screen black?
post #173 of 187
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Wow, great job. When I read your 1st post, I thought, what! 2k on seating and 900 on the pj, but I see why now. Looks awesome. Did you consider painting just the soffit above the screen black?


Thanks ragged. And I did consider painting the soffit and probably should've in the beginning, but now that everything is in place and I really don't notice any ill effects from the off-white ceiling that bother me, I'll probably hold off until I give the room another makeover some day.
post #174 of 187
NP. Your ht looks really comfortable. I would probably just fall asleep after the movie in those chairs.
post #175 of 187
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So, I had a few guests over to watch a flick last night. After becoming familiar with the AVR-1909 for the last week, I thought it would be the appropriate time to really break it in and demo a big-time action popcorn flick to see what lossless is really about.

After explaining "advanced audio" to my guests and that better picture quality was only half of the advantage of Blu-Ray, they looked at me in bewilderment. I just put the disc in and let the movie do the talking...

The movie: Hulk v2.0, aka 'The Incredible Hulk.' This movie featured a DTS-HD Lossless Master Audio 5.1 Surround track (48kHz/24-bit). Needless to say, my guests sat through the movie with their jaws dropped and I with a silly childish grin on my face the whole time! Yowzers!

Everything about this audio track was top notch and reference quality in every way. Non-stop action. Surrounds were in full force the entire movie. The fight scenes had me giggling like a little school girl! Oh my!

After the movie, one of my guests said that my setup "sounded better than at the movies". Great compliment considering the sound came from a set of $249 Polk satellite speakers.

This may surprise some, but I pretty much agreed with my guest too. With the size of the room and the now Audyssey calibrated speakers to go along with lossless BD discs, I am quite amazed at the quality I was able to create in assembling this very inexpensive theater. Plus, the Berklines don't even compare to the public cinema! lol! Talk about comfort! Madone! Why would anyone go to a public theater again!?

Every once in a while I try and convince myself that I need to upgrade the speakers and I start shopping/researching online, but in the end, I'm still in awe of the entire HT experience coming from this room the way it is. Sure more expensive speakers may sound "better" and I can only improve on what I have know, but with the size of my room I must say these little Polks do an awesome job right now.

With that said, I am a little underwhelmed with my Sub (Polk PSW10). If there is one aspect I feel can be improved in the HT, it would be in the subwoofer department. I have my eye on a few subs including the HSU STF-1 and the BIC H-100.

But until then, I will continue to enjoy my $5k HT.
post #176 of 187
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With that said, I am a little underwhelmed with my Sub (Polk PSW10). If there is one aspect I feel can be improved in the HT, it would be in the subwoofer department. I have my eye on a few subs including the HSU STF-1 and the BIC H-100.

But until then, I will continue to enjoy my $5k HT.

You might want to spend some time doing some sub tweaking before replacing it. Audyessy is good but not perfect. Doing manual tweaking on my speakers after running Yamaha's auto-calibration made a tremendous difference in AQ. Yamaha's auto-calibration is far inferior to Audyssey, but none of these auto-calibration systems are perfect.

Another thing to consider is adding a second PSW 10 instead of replacing it. Proper placement of any sub is crucial. Adding a second sub, properly placed in conjunction with a properly placed first sub, could either give you tight lows beyond your wildest dreams, or it could be a dual-sub nightmare.

Just some ideas.
post #177 of 187
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You might want to spend some time doing some sub tweaking before replacing it. Audyessy is good but not perfect. Doing manual tweaking on my speakers after running Yamaha's auto-calibration made a tremendous difference in AQ. Yamaha's auto-calibration is far inferior to Audyssey, but none of these auto-calibration systems are perfect.

Another thing to consider is adding a second PSW 10 instead of replacing it. Proper placement of any sub is crucial. Adding a second sub, properly placed in conjunction with a properly placed first sub, could either give you tight lows beyond your wildest dreams, or it could be a dual-sub nightmare.

Just some ideas.

Thanks for the advice. I will definitely look into that. I've been meaning to right down and examine the Audyssey results. After I let it run it's course, I was just so eager to demo movie and music I didn't really have time to tweak yet. Overall though I think it calibrated the speakers rather well.
post #178 of 187
Nice HT!!

Just curous about your hdmi cable./ you mentioned you had pre run a 50' hdmi cable but then you mentioned it didn't work when you actually went to use it.

Did you ever get it to work or do you do something else?

Reason I ask is that I will need a 40 - 50 ft hdmi cable and was looking for suggestions.

Where did you buy yours?
post #179 of 187
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Nice HT!!

Just curous about your hdmi cable./ you mentioned you had pre run a 50' hdmi cable but then you mentioned it didn't work when you actually went to use it.

Did you ever get it to work or do you do something else?

Reason I ask is that I will need a 40 - 50 ft hdmi cable and was looking for suggestions.

Where did you buy yours?

HD MM will surely add his thoughts, but my experience with a 50' HDMI run has been excellent. 4 out of the 5 HDMI devices I use have no trouble whatsoever over such a run. The one troublesome device has known issues with HDMI output. Luckily my intended use for that device was not based on it's HDMI output anyway, so I just use the Component video and Optical audio for the same results.

But I'd suggest with any HDMI device you give it a decent "torture test" when you get it to see if you run into the numerous HDMI issues in the CE market today. Incompatibilities, handshake issues, DHCP compliance, mfr's individual "interpretation" of HDMI specs, etc... can all add to HDMI problems and frustrations.

Some things to test:
- let it run audio & video for hours on end
- device power up sequences
- power cycle (off then back on) any device in the "chain"

Finally, don't get taken by the HDMI hype out there, especially in regards to HDMI cables. My 50' HDMI cable, in use for over two years, was a $33 cable from Monoprice.com

Here's a great example of the hype and retail theft going on out there:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIf8HLZK6a8
Trust me, it's well worth the 9 minutes to watch this.
post #180 of 187
thanks Toby. I will look at the link.

Only problem with testing the cable will be that I don't have any of the equipment yet. I was gonna try and find a friend / co-worker that can test it out for me. That's a great idea to let it run for an extended period of time and power cycle all the devices. I'll have to work something out because I don't want to run this thing through the wall and have issues.

A quick sorta related hdmi question: Should I consider buying some kind of wall plate adapter on each end or can I just buy a blank wall plate and drill a hole in it large enough to fit the end through?
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