The OFFICIAL Jamo Speaker Owner's thread! - Page 121

Does your receiver have an equalizer? You could try cutting some of the lower range where you find it bothersome. Honestly, with that big 8" thumping around, I'm not sure you should expect the bottom to soften up much.

It just has a few basic controls on it. Ive read that some of the newer receivers that have the automatic calibration have some EQing when it calibraes the sound but not mine.

How many band EQs do those newer receivers have?

There was a few videos on youtube of people doing those calibration setups that have that star trek phaser sound as it calibrates and you can hear the tone changing as it calibrates but mine doesnt have that.

Yeah, I thought I saw it on the feature list for a few new receivers, but I misinterpreted the info. It's "Re-EQ", which is part of Audyssey. You don't see a lot of EQs these days. I guess they've been "obsoleted" by all the new digital equipment. Everything is mastered the way it's intended to sound, and everyone advertises their equipment as producing "flat" response curves, so I guess that makes sense. Then again, maybe I'm just not looking in the right places.

Its good though because when you start adding all those extra settings it makes it easy to really screw up the sound.

We can already mess it up with the sub.

Mal,sorry it taken so long to get back to you on some of these questions,this computer has been driving me crazy! but i think i got if fixed now.the new hard drive is in and loaded up with software and things seem stable.that blockbuster deal is rental not to buy,but i am looking for a new dvd/bluray reader/writer to replace the broken dvd r/w in the computer so i can start burning and adding bluray to my library of dvd's.

hey Bower,those s506 towers are looking good,very nice work.I always thought the towers were nice looking but with what you added it kicked them up a notch.do they sound better to you now that they sit up higher?

Thats what i thought until i crossed/ov the c607 @ 50hz as with the c605,but they are a more powerful speaker & have meatier but tighter bass.Then you have to take the cabinet volume into consideration.also they play a lot better in stereo than the c605,huge difference.But this is not to say the c605 are a lesser speaker,for their size they pump out a powerful sound all in all,esp in a 5.1 set-up.But i noticed the stereo difference immediately.

The first reciever i had to have an equalizer was the elite 91txh which has a 9-band EQ,Then when i got this one it has the same equalizer with a few more tweaks i can do.Its a standard 63hz up to 16 khz,for each speaker,then it has acoustic calibration along with reverb,then theres a graphic readout for professional EQ,but if i start tinkering with that i'l probably do more harm than good.I can connect to a PC via rs232 to get a better readout but still i'll leave well enough alone.then theres a standing wave setting along with full-band phaze control,but i went mostly by the manual anyway then done some small tweaks.But theres a lot you can do these days to get the sound you prefer for your own ears!

Nice one uber,yeah,my eldest son downloads Bluray then i copy them wireless from downstairs on to my lx61 HDD,and i have a library on the PS3 which decodes onboard and sends LPCM,And lately im into copying music files from the PC as i have network capability (DLNA) on the new reciever.Even compressed music sounds passable on the JAMOS,i must say,but when i put on a decent CD,theres no comparison.Make anybody have their legs dangling from the ceiling lately?Yeah,bower done a nice job on his plinths on the D/Apple s506s alright,fair play to him,must take time and concentration.

Mal,i think my friends and family have figured out that when i get a big grin on my face to hold on because the wall are about to shake! one thing i have found out is this sub550,even though its not turned up half way produces,with certain signals,a rumble that makes my inner ear itch like crazy.i dont even want to find out what would happen if i turned the subs volume up to max,it might look like a scene out of the movie scanners.and i dont fancy having to clean gore out of my rug for the next month.I am going to check out a deal on ebay for a pair of energy RC50 towers for 498 and see if its ligit.if it is i may have to put the s506 towers and center speaker in another room.

Yeah the JAMO subs are great value in the states,also i demoed the energy deff conn cf50 5.1 pack @ $1500 then the Jamo c605hcs with sub650 @ €1750 and i found the energys very nice for HT (The cr10 surrounds just did'nt cut it though IMO) The cf50 fronts were simular to the c605 soundwise,also decent center with powerfull sub,but i just prefered the Jamos over a much nicer looking set-up in the energys,in that there was a fair bit more musicality & punchy bass in the Jamos.So i decided and went with the blander,little bit more expensive Jamos.I have only seen the RC50s.They seem very simular to the c605 aesthetically,But thats all the experience i have with energy speakers (except take classics) so let your ears tell you what pleases you most!I was glad i went for that 605 set because i might never have gotten the 607s (same dealer)and i have a lot of respect for them,great neutral & very powerful musical speakers,but uber if the energy are legit and please you,go for it man.Good luck.

Ide like to hear your opinions on another set compaired to the 506 set.

I dont notice much difference in the sound adding the outriggers. They are up a little higher but i already had them tilted back so they were already pointed at my head.

If anything i just isolated them a little more from the floor.

Mal,i think as we get closer to a new year there will be some very good sales on left over stock.right now my gut is telling me to be patient and the sales and the right speakers will come,so i am going to wait and watch.energy was what i wanted to go with when i started on this journey,and i really like the RC series an have heard the RC70's and man do they sound good,but if the c607's come way down in price i would jump on them.right now the RC50 from wwstereo is cheaper then the c607 by a good bit and both have about the same specs.

You wouldnt by any chance know what size banana plugs the jamo speakers need would you? Im about sick of using the bare wire method. As much as i unhook and hook back up speakers and receivers ive about had it with this wire twisting and fishing it threw the hole method.

Well from what i read & hear Energy speakers are right up there with any of the other HT manufacturers,seemly good build and fair value.Reminds me of a certain manufacturer.....

Standard 4mm plugs B. I have standard plastic (red/black) gold plated ones & they work fine & are v handy for plugging/unplugging & from my experience they go about half way into the back of speakers?(google pictures),but will fully fit into your amp/reciever after you remove the little bungs.But i reckon the only difference is the convenience,about spending $10 on a pair of QEDs or something,well i dont know if there would be any discernable difference?anyone?

Yeah, like Mal said....just standard 1/4"/4mm Banana Plugs. You won't have any problems with standard sized banana plugs. I've used several different Banana plugs with mine and they all fit and work wonderfully.

Ram Electronics has several that work very well. Below is a few of the one's I have used and do currently use......

These are inexpensive, but they are very basic Banana Plugs and they do the job well. The connector parts are pure copper with a direct gold plating. Which I prefer (copper and direct plating)

http://www.ramelectronics.net/audio-...odBFASG12.html

These cost a little more but they are very nice, too. Again, copper connectors and they lock, too.

http://www.ramelectronics.net/audio-...prodBGOLD.html

These are more expensive, but they're nice plugs and I like them......

http://www.ramelectronics.net/audio-...dRAM00033.html


Ram also has some real nice speaker wire cables that I love .....I use both of these in my systems and they are work very well. Nice fully assembled cables for a very reasonable price.

http://www.ramelectronics.net/audio-...b/prodSBB.html

http://www.ramelectronics.net/audio-...hs/prodHS.html


I also use this stuff for a few speaker cable runs .......I like it....I make my own cables with this stuff ( I use the Audioquest Banana Plugs in my link up above), bought my own Techflex and shrink tubing and got creative with colors Was fun!

http://www.ramelectronics.net/audio-...od142CZIP.html

Thanks all of you for this thread, I would never have discovered Jamo without all your input.

I am ready to finally pull the trigger on a 5.1 Jamo setup but do have a question.

My budget and WAF sets my limit at around $500-$600 for the 5 speakers and sub. We watch t.v. more than movies or music so dialog is important especially to the wife but we do like blu-rays and music as well. Also I decided that bookshelves is the way I want to go.

So, because of that, I have been looking at the C4XX and C6XX series. I have 2 questions for you Jamo experts...

Question#1--
Can I mix and match these speakers without timbre matching issues? Meaning can I grab C403's for my fronts and have a C60cen and have it match ok? (I will be using Audyssey to set these up with my Denon 591 if this helps)

Question#2--
If the 1st question is "no" then this next question is moot...but in case it's not, which of these configurations would you guys choose?

fronts-C403, center-C60, rear-C403= $489

fronts-C403,center-C400, rear-C401= $440

fronts-C403, center-C400, rear-C403= $369

fronts-C403, center-C60, rear-C401= $428

Also, if it helps, I do have a sub on the way (BIC V1020 10") to cover the low end. Thanks again for any opinions you guys have.

I'm no Jamo "expert", but I'd go with the C403 fronts, C400 CEN, C401 rears.
Not sure where you came up with the $440...By shopping at WWStereo & Vann's, I priced the set at around $310.
Quite the "Bang for your Buck" !

Ide go with as big as you can afford. So 403 over 401 front and back.

Ide also stay with the same line. I do like the C60 center alot but i dont know how it would sound paired with the C4xx

Thanks Noah and Bower (love the pic!),

I have been following both of your posts.

I still want people to say which configuration they would prefer, but I think I have narrowed down my true question.

I guess what I really want is for someone to say out of the following 4 statements, which is MOST true?



1--"The timbre difference between the c60cen and c403fronts is negligible, your soundstage will be fine, so go ahead and get the c60"


2--"There will be a huge difference in tone and timbre if you mix two different lines, just stick with the c400cen as it is a fine speaker and sounds great for both movies and dialogue!, get the c400cen"


3--"The c60cen and the c400cen are on two different levels. The c60cen is so far ahead of the c400cen in build quality and SQ, I wouldn't waste my time on the c400cen as the c60cen is worth any small soundstage differences you encounter, get the c60"


4--"There is not that big a difference in sound between the two centers, so just get the c400cen as it at least matches the C403 fronts"

I actually labeled that wrong, it should have been :

C603fronts, C400cen, C401 rears = $440

but I am pretty sure my fronts will be 403's just need the right center. Is the 403,400,401 system close in sound quality to the 603,600,601 system?

I would not mix the C4xx and C6xxx, IMHO.

If you had to, I think you could mix C4xx and C6xx between fronts and surrounds, but I would keep all 3 fronts the same model line. Again, MHO only.

Is there any way you can afford the C6xx fronts and center and the C4xx surrounds? I have the C601s and while not very large, they have excellent sound. I use them as the surrounds, but they could work for the fronts too. I get sound down to 60hz with them (per Audyssey on my Denon). I listen to multi-channel stereo at times and the depth of sound from the 601s has impressed me.

I have not heard the C4xx line of speakers. I can tell you the C6xx is excellent. I would like to hear the C4xx sometime and compare them. The seem like a great value.

If you have to be within a certain budget, your question of what to buy is dictated by that budget.

I noticed you aren't considering the S406 5.0 package (from Vanns for $250). That could be one way to go.

s406 package is out of stock. Nope, its back in stock now. Funny it still said "On Order" this morning.

I agree with the others that you should keep the front three from the same line. Go all C6xx or C4xx.

This might be a nice package too if you can have towers.

C405 towers, $150 each
http://www.wwstereo.com/website/ecom...x?product=C405

C400 center $70
http://www.vanns.com/shop/servlet/it..._c=site_search

C400 SUR $60/pr
http://www.vanns.com/shop/servlet/it..._c=site_search

Yes the C400 CEN is dark apple but if you're placing in a cabinet or on a shelf color might not matter.

Total would be $430.

Bower, nice pics of the C403, C400 and C401. Is that in a store or your home? You've got so much equipment now you might have a little A/V shop of your own.

It would be cool to test them and give my opinion but no they arnt mine. I just put in C403 and C401 in a google search and those were in the google images result.

I tried with the C601 and C603 but i didnt find anything.

I would go with the set you could upgrade with. Unless your just going to settle with bookshelf?

If you plan to maybe get a set of towers in the future for fronts?

If you are sold on the C403's for your fronts, I would consider your "room space" (and WAF) to determine your surround models.
The C401's are smaller but would perform very nicely as surrounds. If "room space" is not an issue, then the C403's would obviously blend nicely.

IMO, the C60 is a better center than the C400...however, most here would probably agree the C400 would be a better "match".
Odd that we'd recommend the lesser Center.

I had to piece together my Jamos, because all the same models were not available when I purchased mine. I have the "E660", "C60", "C401" set up.
I'm very happy with my sound and have no regrets.
I have a feeling, no matter which you chose, you will be happy too. They are all nice quality speakers.

check wwstereo on ebay...cheaper prices there with the same free shipping

Also, if you are interested in making a 7.x setup, check out the C401 on Vanns and hit the combo tab on the right side - C400 CEN, C400 SUR and C401 for $200 shipped.
Coupled with the C403s on ebay from wwstereo for $120, you have a nice 7 speaker setup for $320

Then you have to buy a sub...

Gee Mal what speaker company could you be referring to?HMMM.If Jamo drops the prices on there c607's like Energy has dropped prices on the RC line I will jump on them.until then I will just have to wait.I also want to upgrade my source components with an Emotiva XPA-3 amp but my pioneer vsx919ahk does not have preouts for an amp,so that might have to be replaced as well.its always something but that our hobby.