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Wild Things PQ not much better than the SD DVD?

post #1 of 32
7/10/07 at 6:37am
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Let's use this thread to discuss the PQ of Wild Things and whether you will be buying it based on what we know about this release.

The two reviews I've seen (highdefdigest and DVDfanatic) say that the PQ is not much of an upgrade at all compared to the SD DVD and also confirm that this BD release has no extras at all.

However, I'm anxious to pick up a new release and I like the movie itself. That said, I'm very much only trying to buy the titles with top tier PQ these days.

Is this upcoming BD a poor release or can we make an argument for buying it (i.e. the PQ is as good as this movie is likely to look due to how it was shot, the soft lighting, whatever)?
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post #2 of 32
7/10/07 at 6:41am
You can read my mini-review here:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=865462

~Josh
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post #3 of 32
7/10/07 at 7:02am
It's laughable to say that the PQ on Wild Things isn't a significant upgrade from SD. It is vastly improved. Now, is this demo material? Probably not, unless you are wanting to show off Denise Richard's nakedness.

It is a very nice transfer with a few noticable flaws. This also appears to be an older Sony encode and not representative of their work on their most recent AVC releases.
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post #4 of 32
7/10/07 at 8:15am
the most disappointing, and consistent, thing I read in every review so far is mention of noticeable EE. I pulled the sd dvd out the other night to try to gauge what to expect with the HD version, and the dvd had ringing all over the place. Also, the image was much more washed out looking than I ever remembered this being (I haven't rewatched the movie in years).

I usually rail over how 'off' most of the reviews I read for these discs are, but when they all mention the same thing (EE) then I tend to believe there is fire in the smoke.

Sucks though, because aftet this and Fifth Element, there isn't anything on the schedule that I have any interest in...not even the summer B-busters that get everyone else so hot and bothered- and if Fox is going to a consistent no-show I have to seriously wonder if I shouldn't take my player back before the 30 days are up
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post #5 of 32
7/10/07 at 8:18am
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Originally Posted by Paulidan View Post

the most disappointing, and consistent, thing I read in every review so far is mention of noticeable EE. I pulled the sd dvd out the other night to try to gauge what to expect with the HD version, and the dvd had ringing all over the place. Also, the image was much more washed out looking than I ever remembered this being (I haven't rewatched the movie in years).

I usually rail over how 'off' most of the reviews I read for these discs are, but when they all mention the same thing (EE) then I tend to believe there is fire in the smoke.

Sucks though, because aftet this and Fifth Element, there isn't anything on the schedule that I have any interest in...not even the summer B-busters that get everyone else so hot and bothered- and if Fox is going to a consistent no-show I have to seriously wonder if I shouldn't take my player back before the 30 days are up

Well if you're only interested in Catalog titles, you should lower you're expectation a LOT. WT on DVD was Uber Soft
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post #6 of 32
7/10/07 at 8:20am
LOL be glad it's not Universal ... Oups.. LOL! I'am format neutral.. Universal started great and since 3-4 months is all going to hell with their catalog titles..
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post #7 of 32
7/10/07 at 8:36am
Didn't notice much EE, but there are times where the image looks a bit hard. Color balance wavers from scene to scene on occasion and detail is inconsistent. Some of this looks intentional though based on the way its filmed. Close ups have some spectacular detail though.

I'd say it is a big improvement over DVD due to the lack of compression artifacts and EE, but fans of super sharp and beautifully colored HD images may be a bit disappointed.
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post #8 of 32
7/10/07 at 9:52am
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Originally Posted by ryoohki View Post

Well if you're only interested in Catalog titles, you should lower you're expectation a LOT. WT on DVD was Uber Soft

I agree about the interest in catalog titles. If there is nothing coming out between now and October (where most of the release dates end) then you probably should return your player.
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post #9 of 32
7/10/07 at 10:12am
If BB stocks this one, I will give it a rent later today.
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post #10 of 32
7/10/07 at 2:46pm
I traded my Wild Things DVD in two weeks ago. Doesn't sound like I'll be disappointed in the BD.
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post #11 of 32
7/20/07 at 4:38am
So what is the verdict on this one?

Good, bad or just damn ugly?
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post #12 of 32
7/20/07 at 4:45am
Man, I was hoping that hot threesome would look great in HD!
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post #13 of 32
7/20/07 at 7:54am
I am a bit confused by the less-than-enthusiastic reviews of this title. It looked damn good to me and definitely delivered that 3-D pop we have all grown accustomed to... It looks and sounds terrific.

Peter Bracke's technical review of the title proves once again that you don't need any credentials whatsoever to be a critic.

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Originally Posted by Peter Bracke, High-Def Digest View Post

Unfortunately, knocking the video down a peg or two is some noticeable softness. Though the brightness of the photography compensates during exterior scenes, bland darker interiors combined with some grain tends to inhibit fine textures in the shadows. Also problematic is some obvious edge enhancement, which results in halos visible on sharply contrasted objects. Given the modern noir visual style of the film, I personally would have preferred an even softer appearance and less edginess.

Maybe I am not that picky. There is some noticeable edge enhancement but it doesn't really intrude much on an otherwise great looking transfer. This guy doesn't seem able to make up his mind.
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post #14 of 32
7/20/07 at 9:27am
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Originally Posted by TwisTz View Post

So what is the verdict on this one?

Good, bad or just damn ugly?


One or two scenes are anything but damn ugly
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post #15 of 32
7/20/07 at 9:50am
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Originally Posted by Kris Deering View Post

Didn't notice much EE, but there are times where the image looks a bit hard. Color balance wavers from scene to scene on occasion and detail is inconsistent. Some of this looks intentional though based on the way its filmed. Close ups have some spectacular detail though.

I'd say it is a big improvement over DVD due to the lack of compression artifacts and EE, but fans of super sharp and beautifully colored HD images may be a bit disappointed.


I've only watched about 10-15 minutes of scattered scenes here and there, but Kris's description so far is the most accurate to what I am seeing.
Based on a comparision of the exact same scenes/shots, I agree the Bd is a large improvment over the DVD (at least on a big screen).
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post #16 of 32
7/20/07 at 10:23am
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Originally Posted by Paulidan View Post

I've only watched about 10-15 minutes of scattered scenes here and there...

3some scene, denise coming out of the pool, car wash, anything else i missed?
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post #17 of 32
7/20/07 at 10:32am

Yeah. That's pretty much it so far

Watched the opening titles too- which is where the ringing on the old dvd is very noticeable.
Major improvment on the Bd.
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post #18 of 32
7/20/07 at 10:45am
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Originally Posted by Paulidan View Post


Yeah. That's pretty much it so far

precisely what i would've done if i had the disc. might pick this up if i catch a deal for $15 or below.
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post #19 of 32
7/20/07 at 12:37pm
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Originally Posted by Paulidan View Post

I've only watched about 10-15 minutes of scattered scenes here and there, but Kris's description so far is the most accurate to what I am seeing.
Based on a comparision of the exact same scenes/shots, I agree the Bd is a large improvment over the DVD (at least on a big screen).

Ditto!
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post #20 of 32
7/20/07 at 12:47pm
Darn - I'm feeling a need to break out the SD
I think 12 bucks is my buy point on this BD.
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post #21 of 32
7/20/07 at 1:17pm
this is not even close to SD-DVD

save for some instances of EE, I am very very happy, amazing film like image

-Gary
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post #22 of 32
7/20/07 at 1:19pm
Oh yeah, the HD version is much more preferred here...
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post #23 of 32
7/20/07 at 2:09pm
SO glad to hear it...couldn't resist Neve and Denise anymore. Picked it up before reading you last 2 guy's posts...my blu collection is catching up to HD DVD....
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post #24 of 32
7/20/07 at 4:17pm
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I started this thread, and I finally purchased and watched the BD Wild Things last night.

Overall, I was very, very satisfied. The presentation is not flawless and sometimes sharpness varies (I guess due to the movies soft lighting style) but for 90% of the film the picture looks nicely detailed and great, if not excellent. At the very least, it looks noticeably better then many other catalog titles we've seen that have come out from around the same time.

Fans of the film in particular should love the upgrade and the ability to see their "favorite scenes" cleaner and clearer then ever.

From now on I will be trusting my own eyes regarding the transfer of movie, instead of early reviews from the so-called "experts"...
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post #25 of 32
7/20/07 at 5:24pm
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Originally Posted by Amiable-Akuma View Post

Let's use this thread to discuss the PQ of Wild Things and whether you will be buying it based on what we know about this release.

The two reviews I've seen (highdefdigest and DVDfanatic) say that the PQ is not much of an upgrade at all compared to the SD DVD and also confirm that this BD release has no extras at all.

However, I'm anxious to pick up a new release and I like the movie itself. That said, I'm very much only trying to buy the titles with top tier PQ these days.

Is this upcoming BD a poor release or can we make an argument for buying it (i.e. the PQ is as good as this movie is likely to look due to how it was shot, the soft lighting, whatever)?

wow, you had me scared there for a moment, then slightly worried despite some of the more postive sounding comments in later posts and now not at all after receiveing it. only played like 90 scattered seconds of it so far, but the audio during title sequence was great quality and the picture simply blows the SD DVD away. no clue in the word how those two sites said the PQ was barely an upgrade. haven't seen enough to say where it ranks in PQ as a blu-ray. sure it's not a POTC or a KK, but all the same definitely not a disaster and defintely a very major upgrade over the SD DVD, easy to notice. not barely better like lost in translation and not with hugely obvious defects like liar liar or DD or some fake 480p 1080p liek traffic.

if you want an upgrade over the SD DVD i would not hesitate.

edit: just noticed you just watched and had a similar report to mine
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post #26 of 32
7/20/07 at 5:41pm
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Originally Posted by Amiable-Akuma View Post


From now on I will be trusting my own eyes regarding the transfer of movie, instead of early reviews from the so-called "experts"...

I can count the number of 'official' online reviews I have read that I agree with on one hand. Yet I still continue to read them, and still get disappointed- until I actually see the discs for myself.

go figure.
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post #27 of 32
7/20/07 at 6:08pm
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Originally Posted by Paulidan View Post

I can count the number of 'official' online reviews I have read that I agree with on one hand. Yet I still continue to read them, and still get disappointed- until I actually see the discs for myself.

go figure.

True - 90% of what we're collecting is a double/tripple dip, so we want to be cautious. More often than not, I trust the forum member reviews over someone who has the task of making it through something he may not like.
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post #28 of 32
7/20/07 at 6:17pm
So which SD are people comparing this to? The original soft release (with commentary) or the sharper second unrated release (without commentary)?
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post #29 of 32
7/20/07 at 7:06pm
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Originally Posted by HumanMedia View Post

So which SD are people comparing this to? The original soft release (with commentary) or the sharper second unrated release (without commentary)?

I was comparing mine to the Unrated edition.
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post #30 of 32
11/23/07 at 1:49pm
Anyone notice a shaking/jitter on this title? Quite noticeable throughout the film... the image shakes left/right by a few pixels from time to time.

I am trying to decide whether this is an issue with my (dreaded) Sammy 1400, or the disc, or ...
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