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post #61 of 12991
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Originally Posted by DCIFRTHS View Post

Have you decided on an amp? If so, which one?

Yup, see the above post.

Another cool thing about the Emotiva is that they were running a 10% off sale on the MPS-1 at their website the other day.
That made it a no brainer: $1529 delivered.

For approx. $3,000 delivered, I now have seperates!
Very sweet....
post #62 of 12991
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Originally Posted by rlb View Post

... I like the idea of "dual" HDMI outputs. My SXRD allows separate calibration for each input. Ideally, I would calibrate each component and input combination; however, there are now obvious advantages for using the pre processor or receiver to "switch" and have access to the HDMI sound. But, if one (or two) components are "different" (but close) from others, I can give them their own output and calibrate that input on the TV accordingly.

Nice. I hadn't thought about that. I have the SXRD too
post #63 of 12991
The pro Onkyo PR-SC885P...

From the pictures, looks like the rack mounts might just be screw on, and we could easily take them off. Hmmm...

Yeah, I'd be curious about the "offers less" comment too. Looks identical to me too.
post #64 of 12991
Now that it has been shown that the pro gear version also has a 3 year warranty, I see nothing about it at all that is less than the consumer version. In fact some people maybe would even say it has more, just because it comes with the rack mount. And I'll bet with the way many pro audio dealers discount, finding a pro version for less than a consumer version will also be very possible even though the pro version has a higher MSRP. Just based on the facts that Integra consumer dealers can not sell on-line, and that also because many of the consumer dealers do not really like to discount.
post #65 of 12991
Wow, that PR-SC885P is going to look sweet bolted into my rack above these amps:



So who do you guys recommend as far as Internet Onkyo Pro dealers?

I can finally replace my aging Sony 9000ES pre-amp and begin enjoying my 7.1 setup and Blu-ray/HD-DVD lossless audio. It was about time someone came out with a <$2000 pre-amp that has the same feature set as modern receivers in the same price range.

I also plan on picking up a 875 to replace my aging Yamaha DSP-A1 in the living room system. These will be my first Onkyo/Integra purchases since I picked up my Integra TA-2058 tape deck some 20 years ago!

Keeping my fingers crossed that the reviews will be positive on these pieces...
post #66 of 12991
Hey all,

I just called a dealer here in MD about the DTC 9.8. They told me I could preorder one and it would be delivered the last week of this month. My question is, should I upgrade? I currently have the Pio Elite with updated firmware with an MPS-1 amp. Anyone care to share the pros and cons... This system is for my home theater. I use it for 80% movies, 20% xbox 360 and 10% HDTV.

Equipment
Samsung HLS 1080P DLP
Panasonic Blu-ray
Toshiba XA2
Xbox 360
Pio elite 84txi...upgrade to DTC 9.8????
Emotiva MPS-1 7 channel amp
D*tv HR20

Thanks,

M1
post #67 of 12991
Nice equipment
I really have nothing to loose except if it (9.8) was full of glitches. I should just do it, Its only money. My RXV2500 works perfect and gives me zero problems. I know the GUI pretty good, it sounds dam good, but the Integra has so many more features and would have to be better sonically. It would enable me to run my PS3 in my electronic closet instead of off a Display input, hiding it. And I would finally be able to get some type of lossless audio. HMMM????I guess waiting a couple more weeks will not kill me.
post #68 of 12991
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Originally Posted by pengilly View Post

I should just do it, Its only money.

This is my Philosophy/downfall too.

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Originally Posted by pengilly View Post

Integra has so many more features and would have to be better sonically.

You're taking the bait so you better get on the pre-order list.

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Originally Posted by pengilly View Post

And I would finally be able to get some type of lossless audio. HMMM????I guess waiting a couple more weeks will not kill me.

Waiting a couple more weeks would kill me. Pull the trigger pengilly!
post #69 of 12991
So you would be the little devil guy on my left shoulder then?

Im pretty sure come Monday Ill hold true to my early adopter status!

Thank!
Pen
post #70 of 12991
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Originally Posted by pengilly View Post

So you would be the little devil guy on my left shoulder then?

Well I guess that's true.. I feel a little devilish today.

I pre-ordered my 9.8 about 2 weeks ago and am now running out of ways to keep my mind off of it's arrival. I am building the equipment rack behind a wall for my new gear today.

I bought a new Outlaw 7700 amp 2 weeks ago and have yet to lug it to the basement. I've been avoiding that because that SOB is heavy. It's still in the living room on the floor right where it landed after the Fedex truck dropped it off.

I figure I should hookup my old Onkyo 775 to it before my 30 return expires. This amp should go nicely with the 9.8 and my speakers.

I am expecting the 9.8 to arrive on or before the 27th of this month.
post #71 of 12991
fakerley....you may want to test your amp while you are waiting. Never know, you may have a DOA?
post #72 of 12991
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Originally Posted by B&W700guy View Post

fakerley....you may want to test your amp while you are waiting. Never know, you may have a DOA?

You are correct sir! That's why I said I was building the rack today and should be ready to hook it up to my old Onkyo tonight.

The Onkyo is only 6.1 but I will try all channels to make sure the amp works then just use the amp to run the 2 rears until the 9.8 arrives.

Or better yet, I will use the amp to run 5.1 then use the Onkyo to run the 2 rears. I wonder if I can do that???
post #73 of 12991
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Originally Posted by DCIFRTHS View Post

Nice. I hadn't thought about that. I have the SXRD too

Definitly interesting. I'll play with that myself.
post #74 of 12991
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Originally Posted by fakerley View Post

I bought a new Outlaw 7700 amp 2 weeks ago and have yet to lug it to the basement. This amp should go nicely with the 9.8 and my speakers.

The Outlaw 7700 is an ATI 2007 amp. ATI amps are bright. The previous Integra processor, the DTC-9.4, was a little bright too. If the new Integra sounds like the old Integra then the Outlaw amp and the Integra processor might not be a good combination.

R
post #75 of 12991
ATI amps are not bright.
post #76 of 12991
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Originally Posted by Brian Corr View Post

ATI amps are not bright.

Oh, they are bright. Horrible for two channel music, passable for surround.

R
post #77 of 12991
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Originally Posted by Razvanel View Post

The Outlaw 7700 is an ATI 2007 amp. ATI amps are bright. The previous Integra processor, the DTC-9.4, was a little bright too. If the new Integra sounds like the old Integra then the Outlaw amp and the Integra processor might not be a good combination.

R

R,

That being the case, do you have any recommendations re: a good quality 7 channel amp to pair with the DTC 9.8? I do NOT want a bright sound.

Bish
post #78 of 12991
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Originally Posted by fakerley View Post

You are correct sir! That's why I said I was building the rack today and should be ready to hook it up to my old Onkyo tonight.

The Onkyo is only 6.1 but I will try all channels to make sure the amp works then just use the amp to run the 2 rears until the 9.8 arrives.

Or better yet, I will use the amp to run 5.1 then use the Onkyo to run the 2 rears. I wonder if I can do that???

What pre outs does the Integra have? Isnt the Outlaw 7700 a seven channel? Just let her buck
post #79 of 12991
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Originally Posted by thebishman View Post

R,

That being the case, do you have any recommendations re: a good quality 7 channel amp to pair with the DTC 9.8? I do NOT want a bright sound.

Bish

Gemstone 7 x 200
A good amp, good price
post #80 of 12991
Raz is on my ignore list, but if I had to guess he is trashing ATI, he has a baseless history of doing this so just ignore him

they don't come much better than ATI and anyone seriously into HT knows this

-Gary
post #81 of 12991
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Originally Posted by Razvanel View Post

The Outlaw 7700 is an ATI 2007 amp. ATI amps are bright. The previous Integra processor, the DTC-9.4, was a little bright too. If the new Integra sounds like the old Integra then the Outlaw amp and the Integra processor might not be a good combination.

R

Well if it is bright I can make adjustments to the sound with the 9.8 correct?
post #82 of 12991
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Originally Posted by pclausen View Post

Wow, that PR-SC885P is going to look sweet bolted into my rack above these amps:



So who do you guys recommend as far as Internet Onkyo Pro dealers?


Well, there is always the dealer locator. You never know, you might even find someone fairly local to you.

http://www.onkyopro.com/locator.cfm
post #83 of 12991
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Originally Posted by thebishman View Post

R,

That being the case, do you have any recommendations re: a good quality 7 channel amp to pair with the DTC 9.8? I do NOT want a bright sound.

Bish

These are the amps I had in my system:

ATI 2007, Integra Research RDA-7, Integra Research RDA-7.1, Gemstone Blue Diamond, Parasound 2205, Sony TA-N900ES ( modded).

I highly recommend the Gemstone, powerful, very wide soundstage in stereo, not bright at all. Stay away from any amps made by ATI, they have QC problems.

R
post #84 of 12991
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Originally Posted by pengilly View Post

What pre outs does the Integra have? Isnt the Outlaw 7700 a seven channel? Just let her buck

Yes the Outlaw 7700 is a seven channel. Both the 9.8 and 7700 are balanced.
post #85 of 12991
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Originally Posted by fakerley View Post

Well if it is bright I can make adjustments to the sound with the 9.8 correct?

What speakers do you have?

You can definitely try the bass and treble settings but I myself prefer to leave them at 0. Try the Outlaw amp with the Onkyo you have now and see how you like the sound.

Definitely try the amp before the 30-day returning period is up and see if you have any problems with it, I had 6 amps made by ATI and all had QC problems. When you get the DTC-9.8 use a Radio Shack Sound Level meter and calibrate your speakers using both balanced and unbalanced connections and see if there's a 6db difference in sound level between balanced and RCA as it should be. Also check if your amp makes a whistling sound at power off. The ATI amps I had did and it was very annoying.

R
post #86 of 12991
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Originally Posted by pengilly View Post

Well did you get er done?

NOPE!

I got started building the rack (Im making it out of wood) and realized I was out of 3" screws then I had to get ready to take my 16 year old son over to "Meet the Parents" of his first real girl friend. Then I drop them at the movie house for his first real date.

I'm disappointed that I didn't get more done but I was entertained by the experience getting to see them kids on their first date. LMAO!

I just got back from picking them up so I guess I will resume tomorrow.
post #87 of 12991
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Originally Posted by Gary Murrell View Post

Raz is on my ignore list, but if I had to guess he is trashing ATI, he has a baseless history of doing this so just ignore him

they don't come much better than ATI and anyone seriously into HT knows this

My history with ATI made amps: 6 amps total, 4 Integra Research, 2 ATI, all had QC problems. If anyone wants more info on ATI amps you can PM me.

ATI amps are OK for HT ( surround sound ) but for music they are horrendous.

R
post #88 of 12991
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Originally Posted by Razvanel View Post

What speakers do you have?

You can definitely try the bass and treble settings but I myself prefer to leave them at 0. Try the Outlaw amp with the Onkyo you have now and see how you like the sound.

Definitely try the amp before the 30-day returning period is up and see if you have any problems with it, I had 6 amps made by ATI and all had QC problems. When you get the DTC-9.8 use a Radio Shack Sound Level meter and calibrate your speakers using both balanced and unbalanced connections and see if there's a 6db difference in sound level between balanced and RCA as it should be. Also check if your amp makes a whistling sound at power off. The ATI amps I had did and it was very annoying.

R

I have JBL Studio Series which are 250w max with 200w self powered subs. I also have a 250w Cerwin Vega sub. With my current Onkyo 6.1 receiver the sound is fine for me. Not bright at all. I rarely listen to music, just DVD's and Dish HD tv.

I can rock the house with what I currently have but I believe the 7700 will enhance the sound of the JBL's.

I will definitely use the new amp before the 30 days are up. I always calibrate my speakers using a sound level meter.
post #89 of 12991
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Originally Posted by fakerley View Post

I have JBL Studio Series which are 250w max with 200w self powered subs. I also have a 250w Cerwin Vega sub. With my current Onkyo 6.1 receiver the sound is fine for me. Not bright at all. I rarely listen to music, just DVD's and Dish HD tv.

I can rock the house with what I currently have but I believe the 7700 will enhance the sound of the JBL's.

I will definitely use the new amp before the 30 days are up. I always calibrate my speakers using a sound level meter.

If you don't listen to music then the Outlaw amp will do just fine.

Use your sound level meter not only to calibrate your speakers but to check if there's a 6 db sound level difference between the RCA and balanced connections as it should be. One of the ATI amps I had was OK the other wasn't. Also check if you hear a whistling sound coming from all your speakers at power off. Some ATI owners don't mind the sound but I hated it.

R
post #90 of 12991
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Originally Posted by Razvanel View Post

If you don't listen to music then the Outlaw amp will do just fine.

Use your sound level meter not only to calibrate your speakers but to check if there's a 6 db sound level difference between the RCA and balanced connections as it should be. One of the ATI amps I had was OK the other wasn't. Also check if you hear a whistling sound coming from all your speakers at power off. Some ATI owners don't mind the sound but I hated it.

R

Ok I will listen for the whistle and also for any hums. I hope I don't get the dreaded ground loop problems that some people have.

Everything is new right down to the wiring. I'm glad I was smart enough to use a 20 amp breaker with 12-2 wiring and 20 amp ground fault plugs.
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