Originally Posted by longtimelurker
Thats the thing, i'll forget the solid state amp burn in for a minute just for arguments sake, lets focus on cable burn in and boutique cable vs. appropriately gauged zip cord (balanced/unbalanced notwithstanding).
I have NEVER tested those things, ever. I will never test cable A vs. cable B (again, gauge appropriate, balancing disregarded), or will never test burn in of a cable, because physics I learned as a non-physics major 12 years ago
still tell me that THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE.
Its the same reason serious research money is not being spent on faster than light travel, I can only prove on paper that it is not possible, as I can only prove on paper that there are NO differences in the sound, you either believe or you dont. I am however CERTAIN that dropping 3k or 20k on cables will make someone believe they are better. The marketers of some of this junk have obviously consulted with psychologists.
A lot can change in 12 years (I'm not saying it has). There was a time when people believed that the earth was flat. Tell anyone of those "non-believers" that the earth was round and you would be considered nuts.
Cd players from the 80s don't "measure" all that differently from today. Do you believe that they sound the same? If so, then there is no point in talking about burn-in or any other audio topic because it will be a waste of time.
Of course we can travel faster than the speed of light, don't you watch Star Trek? Duh.
The difference I see between the objectivists ("scientists") and the subjectivists is that the objectivists are trying to "convince" the other that no difference exists but I don't see any hostile "subjectivists" trying to "convince" the other side that there is a difference. No, it's not because there is no difference.
All this talk about "science" is pretty silly. There is more "dogma" than "science" behind a lot of things out there. If someone came to my ER, was diagnosed with appendicitis and then asked me for "evidence" and "scientific proof" that they should have an appendectomy I wouldn't have any to give them. But I'd still recommend they have their appendix removed! Just because no-one's done a study it doesn't mean that there is no effect. Who would make any money from doing a study about "burn-in" other than a few companies making burn-in cds etc.......
I guess the answer to "can't we all just get along" is NO!