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post #1 of 19
Thread Starter 
I'm surprised I could not find a Yamaha owners thread. To me, the quality of the yamaha speakers is unbeatable in their price class. I think in order to out perform the quality of these speakers one would either have to build their own, or jump up in price by a factor of 2-3. I know most people will say that these speakers are very precise, and I ask why is that such a bad thing. I'm young (21) so maybe my ears havn't aquired the same acoustic taste as many others. I still feel there is a place for these speakers in many HT set ups as you get a lot for your money. I own the NS-555's, a NS-C444 center, and two NX-333 bookshelve speakers, so this is my review, impression, and feelings on yamaha, and their speakers from a young guy.

The company: Yamaha is a company that sticks its hands into many pots. Just go to their website, and you'll see that this company has many faces. They do mass produce their products, so true, if you where to compare the to higher end speakers, no doubt, you would know they where the cheaper of the two, but not by much, and for the money you save, you could build a complete suround system rather and a 2.1.

The quality is superb, and surprising for what you pay. The 555's are what I choose as my mains, as they are large, and provide great sound, however they wern't the largest, yamaha offers the 777's, which are a little bigger, and can handle (albeit very little) extra power (I think its like one watt). The speakers are heavy at 44 lbs, and come packaged very nicely. The finish is amazing, the same piano black finish of their pianos. The speaker has 2 6 1/2 inch PMD cone woofers, 5 inch midrange with waveguide horn, and 1" aluminiam dome tweeter with waveguide horn. The speakers are wired internally with monster cable (but as we all know, monster cable is overprices power cord) it still adds a nice touch. The overall fit and finish of these speakers are great, and for the price I dare say, unbeatable.



The NS-C444 Center adds nicely to the set up. Adds 2 more 5" PMD cone woofers, and a 1" aluminum cone tweeter with waveguide horn. Again fit and finish is great. It can handle what you throw at it, no distortion, very clear. I should add the shielding is great on these speakers, had them directly against my old crt for a few weeks before I got the new tv stand and tv, and there was no problems.




The NS-333 Bookshelve speakers: These are awesome. You could build an entire system with these if you really wanted to. They offer great sound, and if you where blind folded, would swear you where listening to a much larger speaker. Again, great piano black finish. Each booksehlve speaker has a 5" PMD cone woofer, and a 1" aluminium tweeter with a waveguide horn.



Down to the point: These are not the worlds best speakers, I'm not dilusional. However, I believe in a good deal, and the pursuit of great sound, while at the same time having enough money left over to pay my bills. I believe for the money these speakers would be very....very hard to beat. The quality of these speakers, from the materials used, to construction, to the internal, and external connections point to a quality, well made speaker for their price range, and in my opinion, you are getting every one of your pennies worth out of these speakers.
post #2 of 19
I have the same speakers but in a 7.1 setup. They sound great in my opinion and I think they are often overlooked. I've always liked Yamaha speakers. I also own a pair of NS-1000's that I use for my music setup upstairs.
post #3 of 19
I have my music only system setup with 555's for mains, a 444 center, and the 333's for surrounds, (with a BIC Acoustech sub) and I couldn't be happier. I dare anyone to build a better music system for the price.

I have read a few reviews on these speakers that mentioned several shortcomings, specifically: cheap tweeters, poor bass, and harsh at loud volumes. However, I have experienced none of these. I have found their high end to be very clean and not the least bit harsh, especially when compared to the Klipsch, Polk, and JBL's you find at a similar price. Cymbals shimmer, and violins sing with a three dimensionality you usually don't find at this price point.

And while their low end is nothing to brag about, it is tight and lacking that annoying boxey resonance you find in most consumer grade speakers. In fact, I think that its their best feature. There is no boominess, no hollow sound, and not exaggerated or overly dynamic. In other words, they have more of an audiophile sensibility, and less of a "dude! check out that killer bass!" sensibility.

I do agree however, that their biggest weakness is their sound-staging. In fact, I would caution against using them for a 2.1 system. In a 5.1, or a 7.1 system however, this shortcoming is hardly noticeable, especially if paired with a good sub and an accurately setup receiver.

As for the "harsh at loud volumes" complaint, I haven't noticed it at all and I've been known to crank it. I have a feeling that any harshness that's been observed in the past by others, can probably be attributed to their receivers shortcomings and not their speakers. Then again it might be my taste in music. I tend to listen to pretty mellow stuff nowadays and I haven't really tested it with screaming, overdriven guitar solos.

Please understand, I am NOT claiming that these speakers are perfect. They are just (IMO) better than any consumer grade speaker I've heard for the price. If you have champaign tastes on a beer budget (like me) these are just the ticket.
post #4 of 19
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Originally Posted by kw3rd View Post


I do agree however, that their biggest weakness is their sound-staging. In fact, I would caution against using them for a 2.1 system. In a 5.1, or a 7.1 system however, this shortcoming is hardly noticeable, especially if paired with a good sub and an accurately setup receiver.

I disagree with the sound-staging being a weakness, as with most box speakers the sound stage is typically not much larger than the distance between the 2 speakers. I have been auditioning speakers recently and found this to be true in speakers costing 4-5xs as much as the ns777. An example would be the $4k Monitor audio GS60's that I listened to while the speaker was much clearer and had a better midrange and bottom end the sound stage basically ended about a foot from where the speakers were sitting. So try spreading your speaker apart and toeing them in some.
post #5 of 19
I wish the 777's were available in Canada. Good prices from the U.S. but shipping is a killer
post #6 of 19
In Australia the ns777 cost $AU 1499, which is way above the american price of $us 300
so im thinking of geting them shiped from america which still is half the price
post #7 of 19
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Originally Posted by Polar100 View Post

In Australia the ns777 cost $AU 1499, which is way above the american price of $us 300
so im thinking of geting them shiped from america which still is half the price

Hi Polar100, try Eastwood HiFi, I've got the 5.1 pack including NS-777, NS-333, NS-444 and a great 10" yamaha subwoofer for $1900.00
I do also think that the speakers are great. Unfortunately they are too cheap and many of the HiFi shops will not have them in their showroom, if they did they will not sell any speakers in the $1500-$3000 price range as the Yamaha NS-777 are far superior. I noticed that someone mentioned poor sound stage with the Yamaha's, I would disagree - this is why I bought those speakers - they are simply stunning. Bass, they go right down to 40Hz. I trust Yamaha more than most companies when it comes to faithful sound reproduction.
post #8 of 19
My first foray in to Yamaha speakers is an NS 225 center channel for a small den system. While initially detailed and sparkling, I now find it grating and unnerving and very beamy. Dispersion does improve by setting if vertically, but that's not why I bought it. Small midranges don't work...in this compromise speaker. It will do time as a sat. with another old cc I'm dissatisfied with.
post #9 of 19
We ran the NS-333's against 8 other pairs of loudspeakers in a budget bookshelf speaker shootout. They comported themselves very well. As has been stated, they're not the best speaker out there, but they surely hold their own against similarly priced competition. In my mind where they had the BIG advantage over all the others was not so much in the auditory presentation...but the visual. The finish is impeccable.

If I ever put up a small room surround system, say in our bedroom, this would definitely be my speaker of choice. They keep up with the audio side, have a very small footprint, and are quite attractive. Nice package at a nice price.
post #10 of 19
I love these my 777s, but right now I can't use them to their full potential. I still have some old C325s as center/surround and a YST-215 (soon to change) at the low end. I can't wait until they are my weakest link... but that may never happen.

Is it worth getting the NS-C444 for the center? I'm considering another main for the center or at least something that will reach 60Hz easily so that sweeps are seamless from left to right. Is the 444 enough?
post #11 of 19
Thread Starter 
Wow, I guess I should chime in since I started this thread a year and a half ago. I'm now 23, and my tastes have changed slightly in the audio world. I still have the exact same set up, and they still sound as good as they did when I got them home. They have held up perfectly, and I still recommend them as entry-level speakers. I have noticed the harshness at high volumes (reference) - if you've ever played the scene from sunshine where they are outside repairing the heat shield...you'll know what I'm talking about. They are really well made speakers, and as stated the piano finish is amazing. Still for the price they are tough to beat.
post #12 of 19
Hey guys I have the chance to get a set of used perfect condition 777 for 250$ and im trying to figure out if its worth it. I currently have JBL E100 fronts with matched JBL centers and rears. If I got the Yammies I would eventually switch everything over but my question in is it worth it?? I just love how the yammies look with the black finish!! anyone have any opinions on the 777's vs the JBL E100 performance wise??
post #13 of 19
Let's bring this to the top.

I own the NS-700 series and like them. Anyone else have any input?
post #14 of 19
I'm going to put in my 2 cents despite the old thread. Yamaha deserves more attention. As a long-time owner (I still have my NS-1000 I bought in the 70's), they never fail to please. I have some cheap NS-300 which are amazing. My most recent purchase for 50% HT and 50% music were NS-6HX. They've been out of production for a while but picked up a pair new in box for about 700 bucks. I just finished listening to Alan Parson's "A Valid Path" on 5.1 DTS. Cranked them up a fair bit (wife out spending my dough therefore unable to complain). My stupid Jamo D-7 subwoofer amp is blown, and the lack of sub-woofer was completely unnoticed thanks to these fantastic speakers. It is astonishing how one 5 1/2" driver can produce such nice bass (yet people complain about Yamaha lack of bass). I've come to the conclusion that, for music, unless I am listening at quite low levels I'm not even going to bother to turn the sub on. (Of course for a wild action film the sub will come in handy assuming I can get the SOB fixed).

I don't even like to say "bang-for-buck" because they get lumped into that sort of cheap category....Well I can't really afford better, so I'll look for bang for buck. I'll bet a lot of people would pick them in blind listening tests against much more expensive stuff (that's how I stumbled across the NS-1000's). As with my older Yammies, they really shine with the volume cranked up a bit. Maybe I should say they ONLY shine at higher levels because that's what it comes down to. With the volume down at quiet levels, they probably sound like many other speakers.

Might order a pair of NS-777 for another listening area. I am really keen to try them.
post #15 of 19
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Originally Posted by bbrio View Post

Yamaha deserves more attention.

It seems that most AVS forum members really hate Yamaha speakers.
post #16 of 19
Triple sevens here and no complaints. Very hard to find equally good speakers for double of triple the money.
post #17 of 19
Well I most definitely should chime in here. I have a pair of NS-333's for my front mains and the NS-C310BL for my center channel. I will just include the reviews that I put on Amazon as I still feel the same about them. As mentioned before, I can't imagine finding any better speakers for the price. I am very happy with them.

NS-C310BL Center Channel:
I bought this center channel speaker about a month ago after reading some information on TopTenReviews.com. They had listed this as the #1 center channel speaker to buy for 2012. I had an extremely difficult time choosing between this, the Yamaha NS-444, or the Polk C20. Obviously, I ended up going with this one, and for a couple of reasons:
1)As the site mentions, this speaker has a great frequency range, more impressively on the high end. As it says, lower frequency sounds should be covered by a subwoofer anyway, which I found to make sense and
2) this speaker is big, but the height was perfect for me. I prefer to have my center channel on my entertainment center in front of my HDTV. Therefore, I have only about 6.5 inches to work with, otherwise the speaker would block the screen. I really didn't want to have to mount a speaker to the ceiling, wall behind the TV, etc.

I also thought that having 4 small woofers, along with the tweeter in the center, all together would create a very rich and dynamic sound. After receiving and hooking it up, I must say it really does. I have a hearing deficit, thus I've always had a very difficult time hearing dialogue in movies. I would end up cranking the volume and cranking the level going to the center channel, which I felt I shouldn't have to do, just to hear what people were saying. After hooking this up, wow... I ended up turning the center channel level down to half of what I had it at, and really I still find it quite loud, sometimes TOO loud, at times. ( I think it is just the receiver that I have, Yamaha RX-V371, that I have to turn the center channel level up. I have heard of others with this issue ).

I went to my usual movies to test this bad boy out. First was Saving Private Ryan. Instantly, I noticed a huge difference. There were bullets, voices, sounds, etc there that I never heard before from my previous center channel. I never really noticed how important and how large of a percentage of the soundtrack comes from the center channel until plugging this in. Next up, The Dark Knight. Same as before, there was dialogue and sound effects there that I never had noticed before.

My only complaint is: it seems that I have to sit directly in front of this speaker to really benefit from the sounds. If I sit off to the side of it, there is a noticeable sound difference (and perhaps this is the case with most/all center channel speakers). Not a big deal, but can be inconvenient at times, like if I want to lay down while watching something.

I will say, I often keep looking at the NS-444 because it has 2 much larger woofers and can cover deeper frequencies. As said before, I know my subwoofer should hit those lower notes, but it does make me wonder how much and if better movies would sound going with a much larger center with larger woofers. I may in the future try to test this out, but for now I am happy enough with my purchase and would happily recommend it to anyone


NS-333 Bookshelf Speakers:
I must say, when I bought these I wasn't expecting a whole lot. First, I didn't expect them to be much bigger than the bookshelf speakers I already had (I bought the Yamaha RX-371 that came with 5 speakers and subwoofer, which for starting out were great) Holy crap, these things are bahemoths compared to those. The woofer on this is basically as large as my old speaker itself. So after that, I was REALLY excited to hook these up as my front 2 channel speakers and test them out (I also have the Yamaha NS-C310 for the center channel, which is awesome btw). I was blown away. I tested the sound out with Saving Private Ryan first. Bullets were zinging by much louder than I've ever heard. Next up was The Dark Knight. I tested the first scene with the bank robbery. The glass shattering sound was amazing. The tweeters on this thing hit those high frequencies with no problems. My wife actually cringer because it was so loud. Then of course the scene with the joker trying to blow up the SWAT truck and Batman coming to the rescue. Good lord the detail was amazing! I had to watch the entire scene because it just sounded so much more incredibl than I was used to. Then finally, I tested music. Dubstep, hip hop, and metal. They sounded phenomonal! I tried listening with and without my subwoofer on. There is some decent bass production, but I would highly recommend that you use a subwoofer with these speakers (but that should be obvious, these aren't floor standing towers with large woofers)

Overall, for only having these for a day, I am very very happy with these speakers, and I am sure they will get better as they break in. They will be more than adequate as my front channels until I can afford the NS-777's, then I will move these bad boys to the rear for the surround speakers. If you are wanting to build a home theater system, or even just a stereo for music, Yamaha makes outstanding products for exceptional prices. I wouldn't hesitate at all recommending these, or any of their other products, to anyone!


I do have a question, and hope someone can help me with this (but from the looks of it, it will be 6 months before there's a response lol). I have really really been considering the NS-777's to replace the 333's for the fronts and moving the 333's to the rear surrounds. But really, other than just having more low-end sound, aren't they essentially the same thing? I mean it seems to me I would be fine just using 2 pairs of 333's with a good subwoofer to cover the bass.

Also, has anyone tested the NS-C310BL vs the NS-444? If so, is there a big difference? Thanks for reading!
post #18 of 19
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Originally Posted by infuriatedrain View Post

I do have a question, and hope someone can help me with this (but from the looks of it, it will be 6 months before there's a response lol). I have really really been considering the NS-777's to replace the 333's for the fronts and moving the 333's to the rear surrounds. But really, other than just having more low-end sound, aren't they essentially the same thing? I mean it seems to me I would be fine just using 2 pairs of 333's with a good subwoofer to cover the bass.
Also, has anyone tested the NS-C310BL vs the NS-444? If so, is there a big difference? Thanks for reading!
I have the 555's for my main fronts with the 333's being used for my 4 surrounds(7.1 setup). One day I was curious to see if I would notice much of a difference using the 333's for my fronts. Well the difference was huge. The 555's had a much fuller and more detailed sound to them. I would attribute that to the larger woofers and the fact they have a midrange driver as well. I would like to see what the 777's are like compared to the 555's.
post #19 of 19
So to those of you that have the NS-555's or 777's what did you compare them to before buying them?
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