"The" Onkyo TX-SR875 Thread - Page 55

Originally Posted by illdefined

hmm, check if it happens with FOXHD. if so, i think all the channels you're seeing problems with are the ones that broadcast in 720p..

Originally Posted by sjv

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Originally Posted by LushMojo

So, here's what I've found. I noticed today while watching Star Wars EP III from On Demand the "motion judder" was present. I tried different settings on the Onkyo to no avail. Tonight I viewed several HD channels and noticed the following:

HBOHD - no issue
StarHD - no issue
ShowtimeHD - no issue
DiscoveryHD - no issue
MOJO HD - no issue
ABCHD - "motion judder" to such an exaggerated extent that the movement of actors seemed to jump occasionally (this occurred on some show called Men in Trees - never watched it before)
NBCHD - "motion judder" while watching ER (not as bad as ABCHD, but still definitely present). Oddly enough, on our local NBC nightly news (the best HD picture I've seen, by the way) there is NO issue. So....same channel but two different sets of content shows issue present and then absent.
TNTHD - "motion judder" while watching some show called Saving Grace. Issue easily identified.

Additionally, while the problem was present on the last three mentioned channels and/or content I adjusted settings on the Onkyo from 1080p to PassThrough to Auto to 1080i to 720p. None of these settings altered the effect. It was still present and unaffected to any degree that I could discern.

Please note that all of these observations are AFTER switching to a brand new Motorola 3412 (and when I say new, I mean I watched them unbox and remove the plastic at the Comcast store here in Boulder). I've had this Sony 46XBR2 since last year and have never noted any issue even remotely like this. I fully believe this is an Onkyo issue. As such if this isn't resolved at some point by Onkyo this unit will either be going back or be for sale.

Anyone with any ideas as to what I might adjust, please enlighten me.

Originally Posted by gjlowe

Could this have something to do with how the signal is output from the box? I realize it is a different box, but perhaps it has to do with deinterlacing or interlacing at the box? What do you have the box set to output, resolution-wise? The reason I am not convinced it is the Onkyo is that you have still the problem after setting the receiver to passthrough. It shouldn't be touching the video signal there. The other thing to consider is the display. I am unfamiliar with it, but perhaps it has to do with the way it is interpreting the signal?

I don't know for sure, just some ideas to throw out there.

Originally Posted by LushMojo

The Comcast box is outputting 1080i. I could try some different settings there. If I change it to 720p or lower doesn't that mean that I wouldn't get the highest resolution available when 1080i is being output?

I tend to think the display isn't at fault (although nothing is impossible). It's in Sony's highest end line and it doesn't display the issue with the other sources I have (DVD or Xbox 360). The culprits in my mind are the Onkyo and/or the Motorola/Comcast box. As for why the PassThrough setting leaves the issue unchanged, I wonder if it's truly leaving the signal untouched. I mean, the signal is still being routed through the Onkyo.

Originally Posted by LushMojo

The Comcast box is outputting 1080i. I could try some different settings there. If I change it to 720p or lower doesn't that mean that I wouldn't get the highest resolution available when 1080i is being output?

I tend to think the display isn't at fault (although nothing is impossible). It's in Sony's highest end line and it doesn't display the issue with the other sources I have (DVD or Xbox 360). The culprits in my mind are the Onkyo and/or the Motorola/Comcast box. As for why the PassThrough setting leaves the issue unchanged, I wonder if it's truly leaving the signal untouched. I mean, the signal is still being routed through the Onkyo.

Originally Posted by FreddyW

Yeah. Another reason I'd buy a Denon over an Onkyo. Tried & true over the years. Something to be said for that.

Originally Posted by rmb1035

Lush,

Try hooking the cable box directly to the TV (physically by-passing the receiver) and see if you still see the problem. If so, then the receiver can't be at fault.

Originally Posted by sjv

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Originally Posted by gjlowe

I am able to get audio via HDMI with the display off. It does drop out for a moment when you actually turn the TV off, but then it will play without problem.

Originally Posted by LushMojo

I thought of that shortly after posting earlier. Tried it - all problems resolved with Comcast box connected directly to the Sony LCD. I verified with TNTHD running ER this morning. The motion judder was easily identified with the Onkyo in place. After going direct from the Comcast to Sony the problem went away completely. With the Onkyo back in the loop the issue is there again.

And to gjlowe - everything is HDMI. The only thing I'm using component with is the Xbox 360 (at least until I get the HDMI version next week).

Will be calling Onkyo shortly. I'd say with a good degree of certainty that the Onkyo is at fault. Hopefully, they can advise on setting change or other solution.

Originally Posted by sjv

gjlowe, thanks for your reply. Are you using the DirecTV HR20 DVR or another source (cable box, etc.) for your audio that you're listening to via HDMI with the TV off?

Originally Posted by LushMojo

Just called Onkyo. Spoke to a guy named Eric. He's going to set this up in their lab and give me a call back with results next week. In the meantime, he suggested doing a reset.

Those of you that mentioned seeing motion judder issues - would you mind posting about any testing you've done? Thanks.

Originally Posted by guzz

I wrote before that I have been having this issue as well. I have a 52in Sammy 65F and a Dish Network VI622 HD DVR. Everything is connected with HDMI cables from Blue Jeans Cable. I never saw this problem before I bought the 875 and started noticing it after the 875 was in the mix. The channels I've noticed it on were Kung Fu HD and TNTHD among several others - these two most noticeable. I also set the receiver to pass through and still noticed the motion judder. I then hooked the sat box directly up to the TV (even though like I said earlier - I never noticed it w/o the 875) and the problem was corrected. I hope Eric can get something figured out. Thanks for doing that legwork Lushmojo. Out of curiosity, does anyone know if anyone with the 905 has been experiencing this issue? Hey Lush, did the reset correct the problem for you?

Guzz

Originally Posted by Ray745

Has anyone had any issues with the receiver shutting down while doing the speaker level calibration tests? Have 7.1 set up, going through the speaker level calibration test, all the speakers work fine, except when it gets to either front right or surround right, the unit shuts down. Sound comes out of these two speakers fine while watchng tv or dvds, but while trying to play an audio cd in the dvd player the unit shut downs right away also. I have not yet tried hooking up an Ipod or something else yet, but I will later tonight and I will also try disconnecting those two speakers and seeing if the unit still shuts down. It just seems odd that they work for tv/dvd playing but not audio or level calibration tests. Has anyone had any similar issues?

Originally Posted by chicagofan

I had an 875 preorderd from J&R and finally got tired of waiting and last week ordered an 3808 from ABT. However, I am running into problems already. I have an original Xbox 360 (no HDMI output) so I am attempting to output 1080p via component video to the 3808 and then output it to my projector via HDMI. It looks like this will not work at all, and reading the instructions seems to verify this. I've tried to downcovert the signal to 1080i or 720p and doesnt seem to work either.

Does anyone know if the Onkyo is any better at this? Can the 875 accept 1080p via component and then output 1080p via HDMI? Or is that just not technologically possible? Any advice would be appreciated! I still have time to return my 3808

Originally Posted by FreddyW

Yeah. Another reason I'd buy a Denon over an Onkyo. Tried & true over the years. Something to be said for that.

Originally Posted by Jay_Davis

Well that's so nice to know. Thanks for posting that in an Onkyo thread because those of us that care aren't smart enough to look at the Denon threads to follow all the problems people are having with their new receivers.

And to think, if Denon hadn't put an inferior video processing chip in a receiver they are charging $500 more for, the choice between the Onkyo and the Denon might be obvious.

Originally Posted by chicagofan

Does anyone know if the Onkyo is any better at this? Can the 875 accept 1080p via component and then output 1080p via HDMI? Or is that just not technologically possible? Any advice would be appreciated! I still have time to return my 3808

Originally Posted by john barlow

I have the 875 being fed by Directv HD20. I am outputing 1080p into my KDL52XBR2. I have no issues with judder. In fact, I am very happy with the processing the Reon chip does for both SD and HD signals. Although, I would prefer to have the control of the Reon ship that 905 owners have.

Originally Posted by azsol1

If anyone is looking to purchase the 875 they are some out there already as of today with decent pricing. Just giving you guys a heads up hopefully the trend is turning.

Originally Posted by Keith Mickunas

Well I just confirmed that my setup does play audio from the PVR when the TV is off. When I turn off the TV the audio drops out for a few seconds, and it lasts long enough that in the past I figured it just didn't work and would turn the TV back on.