"The" Onkyo TX-SR875 Thread - Page 193

Yep, checked that first thing (the blue light would have been on if "Pure Audio" were selected. Even pulled power to reset the receiver, no help either. Thanks for the heads up though.
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Well in the past I have mentioned that I have never had any issues with the 875's I own

well..lol...not two of the 3 I own are in the shop. One of them perhaps was due to some damage in shipment to me

I have the one in bedroom that gets daily use. I had secondary on my home office that I used once every few weeks. The video( through HDMI) had never been right on this unit. I verified this the other day when I connected the blu ray player through another receiver( Pioneer Sc07) and things looked great
So I thought the warranty might be coming to an end so I looked at the receipt. Dec 4, 2010 is when the warranty ends. I bought it as a refurb through A4L. I figured this was more of a major issue so I shipped it to United Radio in Syracuse NY rather than one of the authorized service centers in Cleveland
And I had bought another unit..brand new in blk from an online retailer in May for $549( delivered) and so I thought I would hook it up
WELL...upon turning it on the "headphones" signal was lit up and therefore I could not do anything. So I boxed it up and sent it to Cleveland Ohio. They called me today and said there was loose parts on the interior and asked me if the unit had been dropped. I said I didn't know...I bought it in May and this was the first time I had plugged it in. They said they would tighten everything back up and test it and get back to me

Well...lol..honestly I am glad I didn't need either one of these where I was using the unit each day
I just thought it was interesting to have two of these in the shop at the same time


Warren

SCSIRAID, TURNNE1 and Doug Blackburn,

Thanks for the advice re: the 875 dropping into protection mode.

I ended up reconnecting all the wires on the receiver and speakers ... and I was able to crank the volume up without going into protection mode.

I appreciate your responses to the question.

TDH

Good deal
I have had the same issue before and rewired and it solved the issue
It seems it only requires a little bit of "touching" somewhere to throw the receiver into protect mode


Warren

Darin, thanks so much for directing me to the fix. Had a buddy of mine come over that has better soldering skills than I do and the 2 resistors fixed the problem! This forum is a gas!!! Thanks again!
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Well...I got the Black 875 back today from the shop...for the second time..LOL

when I got it back the firt time it didn't have a right front channel and the remote was broken...both likely due to shipping damage
But anyway all done

One thing I did notice while putting the unit in service today was the notation on the back

" MADE in MALAYSIA"

as recall someone here though the entire 805,875,905 series were made in Japan
Well...I am here to say I have one that was not in Japan...and this one was bought as a new ..not refurbished unit as well


Warren

Hey all, here's another question regarding the HDMI...has anyone used a hdmi switch that works. I ordered one from monoprice and it has handshake problems. Tried it on another setup I have and it works so it's not the switch. Let me know the manufacturers that have worked for you. Thanks in advance!
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Has anyone out there done a direct comparison of one of the top end Onkyo / Integra AVR/Propro's vs a good to top standalone stereo DAC?

How good are the Onkyo's when working as "Pure Audio" DAC/Pre's?

(I have a TX-SR876 but am posting in the related AVR threads as well)

Thanks

I know this is no help, but when I was using my monoprice switch, I was having problems, but so was my 875. I've had the receiver fixed since then, but haven't used the switch.

If you are talking 2 channel stereo..ie...analog audio
These are not the best units....they excel in home theater..but 2 channel music is not their forte

I have an 875 as well as PRSC885 pre/pro
I have an old Pioneer elite VSx47 as well as a Parasound 7100...both of those unts are far better than the Onkyos in 2 channel stereo listening

In fact for that..I would say the Denon receivers are the way to go


Warren

Well, here's a first, and one that pisses me off to no end.

I have this 875 and a Samsung 67" HDTV and three DirecTV HD DVRs connected via a single HDMI. Today, I went to order Iron Man 2 in 1080p on one of the 1080p PPV channels, and for the first time ever I get this BIG blue nag on my screen:


WTF is this???

And DirecTV is telling me (when I called technical support):


This is absolutely unacceptable! I connect via HDMI simply because it transmits 1080p, and now I'm being told to go to cables that cannot support 1080p? Then why the heck do they have 1080p movies when this asinine content restriction precludes the ability to use the equipment necessary to see 1080p?

What the heck is going on here? And why did this just start? Last weekend I didn't have this problem when I ordered a 1080p PPV.

BTW, does anyone have the latest firmware update (with installation instructions) for the 875?

Component cables can handle 1080p with no problem! But it sure seems that DTV has the content protecting reason all backwards. Because almost everything is usually prohibited from operating at 1080p if they are using component cables. Blu-ray and even upconverting SD players are only allowed to send 1080i through component, and if you want 1080p it must be through a HDMI cable. It is not in any way a limitation of component cables, it is a HDCP rule. Like I say, I don't know what DTV is trying to do here, but according to HDCP rules, if they are doing that, that it must be through component, then they have it back asswards.

Try telling DirecTV that!

Anyway, I'm still looking for a firmware update. I noticed I hadn't done that in well over 2 years!

Firmware update instructions in my sig.

You mention you have 3 DVR's connected via a single hdmi cable. Are you using an HDMI switcher? If so that could be the problem if it does not pass the HDCP signal.

Another possible cause could be that your TV doesn't support HDCP.

If the TV supports HDCP, connecting DVR -> Onkyo -> TV using HDMI, no HDMI switching in the middle, could resolve it.

I believe the reason they told you to switch to component was because the only way to get those HDCP movies to play on a TV that doesn't support HDCP, would be to send it over Component instead which doesn't require it. In a sense they are probably breaking one of the original rules of the 1080p content, but it's a better solution than telling someone they have to buy a new TV.

My understanding of the HDCP is that it may be embedded in the movie, no way for the cable company to remove it. All they can legally do is help you work around it. I bet you could buy another ppv movie from a different studio and it might play fine. Up until now I've heard that only blu-ray movies use HDCP protection, most broadcasts do not. But a PPV which a studio could just use the same master that was produced for a blu ray disc, may contain the HDCP protection.

(These are just my best educated guesses and theories, someone correct me if I am wrong)

Thanks. I'll give it a try. I just remembered that in the 3 years I've owned this 875--and it has run flawlessly, knock on wood--I have never updated its firmware.


Each of the 3 HD DVRs has an HDMI cable that goes into the 875, then the 875's sole HDMI output goes into the Sammy. Same thing with the Blu-Ray player I have connected to this AV unit.

Your TV doesn't support HDCP. If it did, you wouldn't get that message.

More than likely, what you have is not a "REAL" HDMI interface. It is probably a DVI interface with an HDMI connector. This was done circa 2004 or 2005 (maybe even 2003, not sure exactly what year it started) before "real" HDMI interfaces were generally available. DVI interfaces are "dumb" interfaces with no HDCP (copy protection) or handshaking or anything else. HDMI interfaces have all sorts of handshaking and copy protection (HDCP) and information passing back and forth between the TV and whatever is connected to it.

So... my guess is... even though your TV has an HDMI interface, it's an EARLY HDMI interface that doesn't support much of anything. So it would be a problem with the TV, not with DirecTV.

If your TV was made in 2006 or later, it should have a fully functional HDMI interface with HDCP. In that case, something between the TV and satellite box is "blocking" the HDCP from getting back to the satellite box.

My TV was manufactured and purchased in late 2008. It does, indeed, have a real interface according to Samsung.

What happens if you connect the DTV box directly to the TV HDMI and play the same movie? Do you see the same message or does it work ok?

It could be a bug in your TV possibly. After updating the Onkyo firmware (main, dsp, and hdmi) if this issue still happens, might call samsung and tell them about it. Might be a firmware update for the TV. I know my tv has had a firmware update released which Mitsubishi sent me for free.

Yes

?? Yes to it works ok or Yes you see the same message ??

Same message; and Samsung tells me their TV is fine. I believe them, because just last week when I ordered a 1080p HD PPV, that message didn't appear. Methinks there's a screw-up on DirecTV's part somewhere.

Hard to tell. HDCP is a pain and is most certainly the root of the problem.

Yeah sounds like its the DirectTV box. And they know about which is why the message came up. Sucks but I suppose you could use component + the hdmi, and only use the component when a PPV needs it.

That's not worth it. I just won't order the PPV.

In that case, either something is "blocking" the HDCP handshake with the cable box, or there is a timing incompatibility between the box and TV.

Try connecting the box directly to the video display via HDMI (bypass the AVR) and use coax or Toslink out from the satellite box for sound (you won't lose sound quality because downloaded movies only have DD soundtracks -- not lossless). If that works, your problem is solved.

If that doesn't work, you have a timing issue between the TV and box and the box should probably be updated - though it's unlikely the satellite provider is particularly motivated to do updates to improve compatibility. Being manufactured in 2008 means you do have full HDCP compatibility ... your TV probably works FINE with a Blu-ray player for example... if it didn't you'd be forced to use a lower resolution with HDMI or change to component video cables. So you can go back to the satellite provider and tell them that your TV is HDCP compliant and your box is not recognizing that and you want them to fix it. You may get blown off... but you might get put on some sort of list that will eventually result in an update that fixes your problem.

Hello, I have only had this receiver for about 2.5 years, and just this evening it appears that I have lost an HDMI input.

I had my Satellite Box hooked up into the 1st HDMI input and it appears it has gone bad. I took my PS 3 HDMI input cable, disconnected that, and hooked up Sat Box where the PS3 was and now it is working.

Today I turned the Sat Box on and changed the receiver to the Sat Box input and had no sound but had picture. After about a 1/2 hour the picture also went out.

I then began troubleshooting and tried if other components were working through the receiver and they were working. The PS3 is also on a HDMI input.

What is your guys or gals opinions on this.

Is their some way to repair this?

I am totally surprised about this.

Any suggestions?

I'd like to make a short referral to the 805 post.

I own a 875, one of the first batches of models (september 2007). I've recently got a problem with the front panel display not lighting up/not functioning. It seems it was a relatively common problem of the eralier batches. In the thread i refer to is a way of fixing this easily, at least when you dont have a probem with soldering/replacing 3 resistors.

I've analysed the problem also, it seems it was a shortcoming in in the manuafacturing process. The resistirs Onkyo used were lower specced that the ones they should have used according to their own service manual. Replacing the resistor is easy though if needed.

See:http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...3#post19328383