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post #241 of 1807
7/21/08 at 7:05am
On the size of OC703, I believe it comes in 4x4 foot squares. It may also come in 2x2 but I'm not sure. I would try N B Handy to see if they carry it and what size.
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post #242 of 1807
7/21/08 at 7:14am
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Dan, NBHandy didn't have the 703.

Thanks for the reference to the chart. Just to keep a paper trail here on the thread, here's the charts for the two products for comparison.

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Linacoustic RC 1" (25mm) 0.08 0.31 0.64 0.84 0.97 1.03 0.70
703, plain 1" (25mm) on wall 3.0 pcf (48 kg/m3) 0.11 0.28 0.68 0.90 0.93 0.96 0.70

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I'm not sure what all the numbers mean, but I'll trust that you know they are close. As well, he states that differences of less than .15 are not significant. If so, then I'd rather use the Linacoustic RC, as it seems cheaper and easier to get. I understand it's tougher to work with, but I'll deal with that to save a buck!

I'm thinking I'll run some wood on either side of the triangles to offer some support.

Thanks again Dan.

By the way, every source I saw for 703 was in 2x4' panels. Not that it matters now.

tony
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post #243 of 1807
7/21/08 at 7:31am
Hmmm, I guess I was only half right on the size then. LOL

I will say that it is certainly easier to work with for making bass traps than the Linacoustic. I spent all day on my traps.

You can calculate specifically for your room but I'm certain that you will get better performance by cutting 24" lengths for the wall surfaces than 17" like most use. This gives you a larger face surface on the traps. I used 17" for my traps but since mine is 13' x 21' your room is considerably larger.
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post #244 of 1807
7/21/08 at 8:28am
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I will use 24" for the "hypotenous" of the trap. Forgive me, my geometry is rusty (or spelling).
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post #245 of 1807
7/21/08 at 8:36am
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On second thought, to most efficienty use the Linacoustic, I'll cut it in half which will give 24" legs to the triangle and a hypotonous of whatever....30" or so.
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post #246 of 1807
7/21/08 at 3:09pm
The roll of Linacoustic you will get at NBHandy is about 47.5 inches. I'm sure you would do it anyway but I just want to remind you to double check your measurements so the corners line up and your wedges stack properly.

If my math is right you wind up with just under 34 inch facing on your traps.
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post #247 of 1807
7/23/08 at 1:36pm
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Took some tape today and started mapping out the columns and wall treatments. It's a big help in visualizing. The soffits aren't marked yet in these photos.





This evening I'm going to wire up my general room outlets and sconces with a temporary run to the breaker box. I'm tired of doing everything with extension cords and the two outlets the builder gave in the basement.
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post #248 of 1807
7/27/08 at 9:21am
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We have power!

I finally got my temporary circuit run. Now, all 10 of the 'general' room outlets are operational! No more extension cords criss crossing every which way, and in the way!

I may run another temporary circuit for the sconces now too. Put 100watt bulbs in those and a dimmer. That will eliminate dragging the work light around, and with the dimmer, still give soft light for movie nights..hmmm I think I will.

Kids and wife are all out of the house today, so who knows what will be done by this evening.
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post #249 of 1807
7/28/08 at 3:26pm
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Okay, this post is certain to move me up the rankings of the "Most Lurked Thread" rankings! This is excitement at its finest.

I tried my hand for the first time at mudding! I used my front wall as the guinea pig, knowing that it will be covered with acoustic treatment and a false wall.

This has got to win an award for ugliest sheetrock? yes?



My wife came home and laughed at it. She said it didn't look like what the builder did on the rest of the house.
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post #250 of 1807
7/29/08 at 5:12am
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This has got to win an award for ugliest sheetrock? yes?

Yep, a clear winner. Time to go to drywall school young man.

Sorry to hurt your ratio
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post #251 of 1807
7/30/08 at 4:41am
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That's odd? I know there was a post from BIG regarding the mudd job? and it's not here today?

Gonzo, you don't sugar coat do you? Thanks for the drywall school link. I will watch the whole thing very closely. No doubt in my mind that if this was not going to be covered in fabric I would be letting a pro do it!
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post #252 of 1807
7/30/08 at 4:42am
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I posted this on another thread, but thought I'd put a copy of it here too. It's not construction related, but it sure is motivation for all the late nights working hard in the basement.

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Last night was one of those Home Theater moments that remind me why I love the hobby. I have twin 3 year old boys that up until now have only been interested in the more elementary kids stuff. However, they saw a trailer for "Indiana Jones" and kept repeating his name for several days, and actually humming the theme song. Da da da ddaaaaa, da da daaa.....

I decided we would give it a shot in the theater with the whole family. I just knew we were 4 or 5 years too early. NOT! We put in "The Last Crusade", and they were glued from the opening music all the way through the end of the credits.

For me, it was a defining moment in my Home Theater hobby. I've always said that the room is worth nothing if not filled with the people I love. And here were my wife and two kids watching a movie that was one of my childhood greats (that my Dad took me to). Eating popcorn, clapping, laughing. When Indy and the tank go over the cliff and you don't know if he lived, Ethan actually scooted to the edge of his seat and waited for the reveal!

It reminded me how great this hobby can be, how great fatherhood is, and how great the two go together.
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post #253 of 1807
7/30/08 at 4:50am
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I posted this on another thread, but thought I'd put a copy of it here too. It's not construction related, but it sure is motivation for all the late nights working hard in the basement.

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Last night was one of those Home Theater moments that remind me why I love the hobby. I have twin 3 year old boys that up until now have only been interested in the more elementary kids stuff. However, they saw a trailer for "Indiana Jones" and kept repeating his name for several days, and actually humming the theme song. Da da da ddaaaaa, da da daaa.....

I decided we would give it a shot in the theater with the whole family. I just knew we were 4 or 5 years too early. NOT! We put in "The Last Crusade", and they were glued from the opening music all the way through the end of the credits.

For me, it was a defining moment in my Home Theater hobby. I've always said that the room is worth nothing if not filled with the people I love. And here were my wife and two kids watching a movie that was one of my childhood greats (that my Dad took me to). Eating popcorn, clapping, laughing. When Indy and the tank go over the cliff and you don't know if he lived, Ethan actually scooted to the edge of his seat and waited for the reveal!

It reminded me how great this hobby can be, how great fatherhood is, and how great the two go together.

Priceless
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post #254 of 1807
7/30/08 at 5:22am
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It reminded me how great this hobby can be, how great fatherhood is, and how great the two go together.


Tony - Great story! I feel exactly the same way. You hit the nail on the head with your comment "...the room is worth nothing is not filled with people that I love".

Great post and thanks for sharing.

CJ
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post #255 of 1807
7/30/08 at 5:51am
Gotta love it Tony,

That's what it's all about.
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post #256 of 1807
7/30/08 at 9:08am
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That's odd? I know there was a post from BIG regarding the mudd job? and it's not here today?

Sometimes I decide to reign in my big mouth and the post in question said basically that you needed to get some mud on that wall. It looks like it was done with a 4 inch blade and that you need to get out the fat boy blade and get serious. The mud path should be about 8-9 inches wide on tapered joints and even larger on the butt joints.
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post #257 of 1807
7/30/08 at 1:53pm
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Don't reign yourself in on my thread. It's an honor and priveledge to have your contributions. I may not follow every bit of advice, but I sure like getting it.

You're going to laugh at this....I was using a 12" knife! That shows how gingerly I was being with the mud. I'll slop it on for the next coat!
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post #258 of 1807
7/30/08 at 2:00pm
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I'll slop it on for the next coat!

...and you'll spend the next few weeks sanding...

Serously, spend some time on www.drywallschool.com. It'll be time well spent.



CJ
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post #259 of 1807
7/30/08 at 2:11pm
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sorry, that's what I meant....drywall school....drywall school....drywall school
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post #260 of 1807
8/25/08 at 9:22am
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Wow! It's been nearly a month.

I haven't done much in the theater besides watch movies, but have been working hard. I turned attention to the game room area. I figured it would be best to get the whole basement at least insulated and sheetrocked before winter came in. You can see here the main exterior wall of the game room.





And here's a shot of the last exterior wall to finish before winter.



This one gets a bit tougher, as I have to put in subpanel first as well as more complicated electrical for the kitchenette. I'm planning to finish the stud wall as shown, and the concrete will be covered by cabinets, sitting booth, and tile backsplash. I'm not sure how to handle cabinets against the concrete. I may put a pressure treated spacer and then do countertops that are an inch deeper than typical.?.

Notice the electrical boxes. I know this is higher than standard, but don't want to have exposed conduit down the wall.

It's amazing how much more comfortable a space starts to feel with a little sheetrock hanging on the walls! Not to mention the immediate difference in temp that the insulation made.
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post #261 of 1807
8/28/08 at 6:17am
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I'm going to tackle sheetrocking the theater ceiling next, which means I need to choose a spot for the projector. I can pick a spot based on my current projector, but how do I pick a spot that is a "future proof" as possible?
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post #262 of 1807
8/29/08 at 11:41am
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I'm going to tackle sheetrocking the theater ceiling next, which means I need to choose a spot for the projector. I can pick a spot based on my current projector, but how do I pick a spot that is a "future proof" as possible?

Just a thought...
Would it be possible to place the mount on a short ceiling track, so it could be moved a limited distance toward or away from the screen? If the throw distance range of a later projector won't permit the image to fit your screen from the original PJ location, a sliding mount might give you additional flexibility.
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post #263 of 1807
9/15/08 at 8:15am
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Tom, we discussed this in person, and I think I'm comfortable now. Like we said, black ceiling, black cords, dim light....really not an issue to have a few feet of cord up there.

A small update. I was starting to be held back by not having an electric sub panel. I went ahead and hired out the electrician that did the rest of our house. He put in a 125amp sub panel next to the main. I've now got 24 available circuits all for the basement! I should have room to divide up the theater to my hearts content. Here's a photo.



I also got in my order from monoprice. I now have all the speaker wire I need. I have 300' of 12awg CL2.
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post #264 of 1807
9/15/08 at 3:24pm
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Come on....it's a sub panel! Where's the excitement?
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post #265 of 1807
9/15/08 at 4:05pm
Hooray!!!
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post #266 of 1807
9/16/08 at 12:23pm
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Come on....it's a sub panel! Where's the excitement?

You want excitement? That thing only has 2 breakers in it! Fill it up and take a picture, then you'll get some excitement!

BTW - watching movies before the room is finished is a definite no-no... you know?
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post #267 of 1807
9/30/08 at 2:00pm
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BeerParty, I've been working on just that. Not too much progress, but I have been widdling away at a few things.

I've now got the following electric circuits wired and operating:

-Dedicated 15amp to the projector
-Dedicated 20amp to three different subwoofer outlets. (one in the front of the room, and one to each rear corner, this should give flexibility in placement)
- Two Dedicated 20amp to the equipment rack location.
-lighting runs (riser step lights, 6 sconces) are now wired to the switch location (which will likely be Lutron Spacer). (I've got to run rope lights and screen cans back to switch, but those will be run in the soffits once built)

So you can see, I'm starting to fill up that new panel!

BTW, there's not a chance in the world that I would stop watching movies during construction. This stratagy IS slowing me down, but we're enjoying the heck out of the room the whole time.

Next up, installing can lights above the bar and screen. Installing hvac registers and return. Then sheetrock the ceiling.
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post #268 of 1807
10/21/08 at 7:42pm
Tony

How about a update
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post #269 of 1807
11/10/08 at 10:01am
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Hey Scott. It's nice to see that someone cares.

I've kinda lost energy for the room at the moment. We have so many other things going on that I need to give attention and money to. It's part of how I keep my wife happy. I give her projects a few months and then she loosens up a bit for the theater project.

With the holidays coming up, I wonder if I'll do much before the first of the year... who knows. Good news is that if my next push is as strong as my last, then I'll be at a halfway point soon. And I've got to believe the second half is more fun! Framing, insulation, electrical, sheetrock....not a bit of excitement in any of that.
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post #270 of 1807
11/10/08 at 11:22am
We all look forward to the/some/any progress...


Has Logan been involved here?
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