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post #901 of 1806
Tony have not looked at your thread in a while. The theater is looking great!!
post #902 of 1806
Thread Starter 
Hey the8ter! Glad to have you check in. I've been wondering how things have been at your place. Last we talked you had a burned up receiver. I wondered what you'd done to resolve that? We should have another club meet soon.

I've been playing a bit with sub placement again. The Danley's are both on the front wall and were firing into the room. I changed the ports to fire at the front wall and actually gained about 3db in SPL. I'm more and more convinced that this hobby will always provide tweaking possibilities! Hahahaha.
post #903 of 1806
Hi Tony,

Salamat Datang from Bali! Hope that you and the family are doing well. Housekeeping first! Pretty impressed with your level of progress since my departure. Looking good and I do like the corner booth! Coming together very nicely.

Not quite so sure about the strange dishwasher fetish that is going on in your thread. It's a dishwasher. It's square and white and sits on the floor. It washes dishes. It is downstairs. It is connected. How about you get into some of the really exciting stuff, like paint!!!! Really looking forward to seeing your colors on the wall.

Have been reading about your Danley dilemma. Hopefully they are back where they started. I am sure when everything is finished, you will look back and think of how you sweated the small stuff. Build is looking good mate! Keep it up!

Greg
post #904 of 1806
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Hey Greg! I've never lost confidence that the Danley's are the right product for my room, but they do require special attention to get the best out of them. I think I'm currently as good as it will get without better EQ control. I've been watching the local craigslist for the Behringer Feedback Destroyer.

I got some more carpet and padding scraps this weekend, and placed them in the theater. The floor is now about 75% covered with padding and carpet and the nasty slap echo is indeed 99% gone. I tell ya, even having these remnants down changes the room entirely. Can't wait for the final carpet install.

We have GOT TO make our final paint choices. I'm ready to put that behind.
post #905 of 1806
Hi there Tony,
Back on deck and looking for an update??? BUMP BUMP BUMP
Hope all is well.
Greg
post #906 of 1806
Thread Starter 
So you're Bali vacation has come to an end? I thought you might never return home! LOL

Update? well, let's see.... actually I've been busy, but again, not with construction.

I've been on the hunt for a third LaScala to use for center channel. Over this past week I found one! She's a real beauty! A '75 model that's been taken care of very well all these years. Heck, it's nearly my age!

I had to drive about 3 hours to get it, and picked up a ticket along the way! I haven't had a ticket in 25 years.... I was making a proper pass on a two lane road. He stopped me for 70 in a 55. He said you can't speed even during a pass! I truely thought your job when passing was to get it done with as quickly and safely as possible. What ya gonna do? He saw my out of state tags and just wanted to collect a fee for the state.

I haven't gotten to turn it on in my room yet, but the previous owner is using it's mate as a center between his two Khorns. It was phenomenal! If I get the same results I will be very, very pleased. Report to follow soon.

On with the photos. I have since covered the Danley's up with acoustic insulation (linacoustic).

Here's the new one. Shame to break up the pair.



And the new "Behind the Screen" shot.

post #907 of 1806
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Tom, sorry you may hear about the new aquisition here on the thread. Sounded like you didn't have time for a lengthy chat on the phone, so I didn't bring it up. I'll give you the full story on Monday!
post #908 of 1806
Copy that, Tony---see you folks on the 6th.


Tom
post #909 of 1806
Very nice set-up Tony! It's like you planned your room width to PERFECTLY fit 3 LaScala's and two Danley's It sure is nice when things come together like that.
post #910 of 1806
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Originally Posted by tony123 View Post

Update? well, let's see.... actually I've been busy, but again, not with construction.

I've been on the hunt for a third LaScala to use for center channel. Over this past week I found one! She's a real beauty! A '75 model that's been taken care of very well all these years. Heck, it's nearly my age!

Here's the new one.





Boy, it looks very well taken care of, especially for a 1975 vintage. Nice!


Tom
post #911 of 1806
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Thanks Floyd! Not to give myself too much credit, but it was in the plans to allow for some of the largest footprints of speakers and subs. But I didn't imagine I'd use it all up with hardley an inch to spare. Actually, I can't quite get the toe in I'd like on the left and right. I'll butcher up the false wall a little and get what I need.

Tom, all three of the LaScalas were taken better care of than if I'd owned them myself all those years! What a testiment to getting a design right! Here we are 35 years after it was built and it still performs better than most anything I've heard. There's a reason the Khorn and LaScala show up in most top 10 lists of Legendary speakers of all time.

Watched several clips last night, and the new center did not fail to impress. It was immediately evident that the front three matched now. Very smooth panning. Also noticed the difference in tone of the dialogue. Almost troublesome at first, but after 20 minutes my ears adjusted. Dynamics are off the chart. I think I can now recognize that my KL650 was showing compression trying to keep up. I didn't know what I was hearing at the time, but now that I hear it clearer with the LS, I'm assuming that's what it was. Typically, it happened on female vocals at high volumes. Not anymore.

It's been a long process. Every piece of the puzzle has made it's own contribution, including this latest.

Well, I just got in the Bluray concerts of Celine Dion's Vegas show and Sara Barreilles! The LaScalas will be singing some this weekend!
post #912 of 1806
now you need to upgrade your surrounds, may I suggest a jbl pro surround
post #913 of 1806
Hi there Tony,

That is one impressive looking Soundstage! Looks fantastic - made for that room. I bet it sounds every bit as good as it looks!

I inspected the pallet of goodies at my folk's house on the weekend. Those Danley boxes are ENORMOUS! I pulled the Emotiva UPA-2 amp and two of the Niles speakers off the pallet and set them up with the UMC-1 processor, the USP-1 stereo preamp and the ERC-1 Reference CD. It certainly would not match your system just yet but I tell you what, it sounded sweet (anything would after listening to my plasma speakers for the past 8 months!). For the money, Emotiva certainly pack in the performance! Thanks for the tip!

Can't wait to get the whole lot set up. Gotta say I was impressed by the sound and build quality of the Niles speakers. Don't imagine that they would hold a candle to the LaScalas, but then again they are not antiques either!

Keep the photos coming Big Guy. I expect the next ones to feature paint!

Greg
post #914 of 1806
Tony, one other thing you may want to try is putting the lascala's rite next to each other. MKtheater did this with his JBL's and likes it, he had them configured similar to your layout before he made the change.
post #915 of 1806
Thread Starter 
stgdz, I'm using the KL650's as surrounds, and feel no need for more performance there. I might change them out, but the only reason would be for stealthier aesthetics. Plus, my wife has shown the tolerance of a Saint. I can't imagine telling her I need to buy MORE speakers. Oh, and stop tempting me!

I wonder what MK was trying to address when putting his arrays together? Do you know?

Greg, Good to hear you've got some speakers out of their boxes! I know that's got to lift your spirits a bit! Those Danley boxes are almost the size of the built subwoofer, so you have an idea.

Haven't been on MSN messenger lately. I'm at the office much more now. That's a good thing! I make more money at the office than I do chatting with you on the internet.

Has anybody else watched the Celine Dion Bluray of her Vegas show? We watched it last night, and it is certainly one of the top 2 or 3 concerts I've heard for PQ and AQ!

Also wanted to point out that our local Red Box is now doing Bluray! I'm going to lower my Netflix and start using Red Box some. It's $1.50 per Bluray, so could work out cheaper for us.
post #916 of 1806
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...&postcount=342

on page 11 he had them setup up similar to how you have yours but he moved them to that position.


http://www.performanceaudio.com/cgi/...oducts_id=1278
I would imagine the 8340A has a wider coverage area then your 650's.
post #917 of 1806
Hey there mate,
As much as it embarrasses me I do own the Celine live new day blu ray. You are right. Sq and pq are outstanding. A little tired of the performance. Was the first bd music title that I purchased. Second was AC DC live at Donnington. Now that is one you must get! Stands up well to repeat viewings and even though it was filmed on 70mm film, pq is pretty good. Gets a bit grainy in low light.
I was impressed with that third speaker of yours. Very jealous. Not jealous of the ticket you got though. That would have landed you a 400 dollar fine over here so count yourself lucky.
Glad to hear that you are getting more clients coming in. Like you say, they pay better than me.
Still waiting on that video review Big guy....
Greg
post #918 of 1806
Tony,

I've been out of the loop for awhile and just got back to your thread. Congrats on snagging that 3rd LaScala!

That front sound-stage is indeed VERY impressive ..!!
post #919 of 1806
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Originally Posted by tony123 View Post

Hey the8ter! Glad to have you check in. I've been wondering how things have been at your place. Last we talked you had a burned up receiver. I wondered what you'd done to resolve that? We should have another club meet soon.

I've been playing a bit with sub placement again. The Danley's are both on the front wall and were firing into the room. I changed the ports to fire at the front wall and actually gained about 3db in SPL. I'm more and more convinced that this hobby will always provide tweaking possibilities! Hahahaha.

I decided to send the unit in for repair, after sending it back a second time I think it is right now. I really need to come hear those to subs that has to really make an impact on your experience.
post #920 of 1806
Thread Starter 
Hello to all. Taking a break from construction. Kids are in school now and work has picked up a bit actually.

Greg, we did watch "Gallipoli" a few weeks ago. The first half nearly put us to sleep, but the second half was better and well, downright emotional in the final scenes. It's a bit of history that I knew nothing of and it was educational in that respect. Thanks.

Craig, thanks. I'm very much enjoying the front three! Didn't need to spend the money now, but how often do you find a single available? not very.

th8ter, the subs are impressive, but not quite dialed in yet. I need desperately to get an EQ that I can put a house curve on them. My current MultEQ is aiming for a flat curve, and we all know that monster subs need a bit of a curve to the lower end.
post #921 of 1806
Hey there Tony, nice to see you back on here and that work is keeping you busy. I certainly would not describe the movie "Gallipoli" being "entertaining" and on many levels it is not enjoyable. It is plain gut wrenching at the end but is a milestone point in Australian military history and today ANZAC Day is perhaps our most revered and sacred day of remembrance. I am glad that you watched it. Strange how we celebrate a day here for a battle that our troops lost in WW1.
You keep tweaking those Danleys.... You will know what you are doing when you come over to build and commission mine!
Enjoy! Greg.
post #922 of 1806
Thread Starter 
I told you Greg, one round trip plane ticket and I'm at your service.

I miss our chats on IM. My schedule is vastly different now than it was a few weeks ago. Hope you're well. Post on your thread regarding the home building. Curious.
post #923 of 1806
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Originally Posted by tony123 View Post

Hello to all.

Greg, we did watch "Gallipoli" a few weeks ago. The first half nearly put us to sleep, but the second half was better and well, downright emotional in the final scenes. It's a bit of history that I knew nothing of and it was educational in that respect. Thanks.

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Originally Posted by Dingaling2004 View Post

Hey there Tony, nice to see you back on here and that work is keeping you busy. I certainly would not describe the movie "Gallipoli" being "entertaining" and on many levels it is not enjoyable. It is plain gut wrenching at the end but is a milestone point in Australian military history and today ANZAC Day is perhaps our most revered and sacred day of remembrance. I am glad that you watched it. Strange how we celebrate a day here for a battle that our troops lost in WW1.

Greg.


Tony and Greg,

Were you guys speaking of the 1981 version of GALLIPOLI (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0082432/), the one with Mel Gibson early in his career? I remember seeing that film a long time back and thinking about what a tortuous battle that was.

Coincidentally, I had watched a documenary just this week which detailed the Gallipoli campaign. The program recently began airing on the Smithsonian Channel and is still repeating every few days. Don't know how much longer it will continue to be shown. If the Smithsonian Channel is part of your TV packages, I highly recommend the program. I found the documentary just as affecting and more informative than the 1981 flick.

It's intersting that a young politician named Winston Churchill was one of the supporters of the World War I Gallipoli campaign. Because he felt so traumatized by the result of this amphibious operation, it's not at all surprising that, nearly 30 years later as Prime Minister, Churchill recoiled from the necessity of the D-Day amphibious assault during World War II. It turned out that Roosevelt was empathetic to Churchill's concerns about an amphibious landing in the teeth of fortified beaches. So, even though the American military leadership favored landing a year earlier (1943) with the aim of pushing straight for Berlin, the two heads of state inisisted on a later date (June 1944), hoping for conditions that would minimize the blood-letting and be more conducive to success. We can't know if the 1943 plan would have ultimately ended the war sooner, but we do know that the decision made by Churchill and Roosevelt eventually led to victory for the Allies and liberation for Europe. Unfortunately, we also know that a blood-letting could not be avoided.

In case you're interested, here is a link to the Smithsonian Channel web page concerning GALLIPOLI: http://www.smithsonianchannel.com/si...do?show=135944 Future airings should be accessible somewhere on this page.

By the way, Greg, I'm a native Texan, so I don't find it strange that you commemorate a battle lost. We still remember and revere the Alamo, a battle we also lost. To the very last man, in fact. I suppose the moral of the story is that final victory seldom comes without bitter and tragic defeats along the way. Good on 'ya, mate.


Tom
post #924 of 1806
Hi Tom, yes we were discussing the 1981 flick with Mel Gibson. He was great before he started drinking and making racist comments. Pretty disappointing the way things have turned out. Hope that he comes back from it all!

In any case I understand the reverence in which you hold the Battle for the Alamo. I think Gallipoli marked one of the last occasions when we blindly followed our allies into battle. The decision made to invade the shores of Gallipoli was one of the greatest misjudgments of any military leader and resulted in terrible losses.

It was so strange that there was an amazing amount of respect between the Aussies and the Turks. They would often swap cigarettes, sing at night to each other and respect the others special days. Even now, there is a very close bond between Australia and Turkey.
By the way, the Gallipoli soundtrack features oxygene by Jean Michelle Jarre. Pretty amazing music at the time.
Have a great weekend!
Greg.
post #925 of 1806
Hi there Tony, how's it all going? Any developments in the past week or so? Me thinks you are spending far too much time watching that projector! How did your big game afternoon go?
post #926 of 1806
Thread Starter 
Hey Tom! Thanks for bringing a bit of intelligence to an otherwise redneck thread. LOL

Greg, You would guess right. I'm burning the bulb away. I'm betting I'll replace the bulb before the room is done! Hahaha.

I have been researching the famed "Milano Blue" for a ceiling paint, and I don't think it suits my tastes. Too light/grey. I may just go with flat black on the ceiling. I imagine that's the preferred color for best performance anyway. Did Milano Blue get it's popularity mostly for WAF?

We're firm on the lower wall, columns and soffits being a dark brown/coffee color. I wonder if doing the ceiling in that same brown would be too much? Any opinions?

Another question for you guys. I can't figure out how to attach my columns to the walls. They will be fabric wrapped. I can't get fasteners through the fabric, so maybe using velcro?

Football game gathering was a blast. The room works so well for that. My dear Saints lost a close one, but we're still on a march to the SuperBowl!
post #927 of 1806
Hi there Tony, I would not be so rude as to label your build 'redneck' however it is all becoming clear to me now why you are struggling with your color choices. You seem to be confused with all the hoity toity high brow colors like 'milano blue' blah blah blah. The fact that your home is just down the swamp from where the film deliverance was shot, I would suggest that you forget about Italian shades of blue and those all so fashionable coffee bean colors. They just ain't right! What about the following....
Gumbo green
Moonshine mottle
Purdy purple
Catfish swirl
Rafting red
Banjo blue
For a more soothing wall color, what about Gator green?

Now you have no excuses to delay your painting! Would love to hang around but I'm going fishin.... Color consult is over!
post #928 of 1806
I'm with Dingo(ling) on the fancy color names. Remember:

post #929 of 1806
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I'm with Dingo(ling) on the fancy color names. Remember:

I'm going to print this out and keep it in my wallet, that way I'll know what the heck my wife is talking about when she's looking at different colors!
post #930 of 1806
Thread Starter 
You guys are funny, but not very helpful. Can't you tell this thread is all about getting things done?
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