'Mad Men' on AMC HD - Page 51

I was thinking the same thing. Roger didn't get laid, he got reclined.

Didn't see that coming, even with the warning that MM contains sexual situations that may not be suitable...

Wow!

I wonder what that means for Sally's story going forward?

A television show about the advertising business in the 60's like it claims to be. It prides itself on social and historical accuracy. Dallas never claimed to be an accurate show about the oil business because it was intended to be a prime time soap opera. If Mad Men becomes this, I'll stop watching. Fortunately it remembered its premise after it temporarily forgot it during season three.

Finally an episode with no dream sequences or LSD trips. Even more amazing, Don did his job and secured an account. He should do that more often. Uh, beans in outer space didn't sound too great to me but this is before we saw astronauts in cramped capsules eating slop out of plastic bags. Maybe people were still imagining eating lobsters on the Moon.

Now things could start to suck for Peggy professionally. Will she be able to fight the SCDP power couple? Will Don be patting Megan on the head for every idea she comes up with and driving them into his clients?

Poor Sally doesn't have much luck with adults. Roger was awesome with her at the banquet then she has to unintentionally freak her out. As a kid I remember lots of adults who I thought were great people but seemed like they were going out of their way to disappoint me.

Looks like Pete's face is healed so he's ready for another workplace beating. Or maybe he's hiding in his office with his rifle all day.

[I don't believe I got Sally, Peggy, or Betty mixed up in this post.]

THAT is what you think this show is about??



This is from Wikipedia -- and is a description that much more closely matches what I think this show is about:

"Mad Men is set in the 1960s, initially at the fictional Sterling Cooper advertising agency on Madison Avenue in New York City, and later at the newly created firm Sterling Cooper Draper Pryce.[3] The focal point of the series is Don Draper (Jon Hamm), creative director at Sterling Cooper and a founding partner at Sterling Cooper Draper Pryce, and the people in his life, both in and out of the office. As such, it regularly depicts the changing moods and social mores of 1960s America."

Beans in Outer Space = More Efficient Rocket Propulsion

That would be a documentary. I don't think the show claims to be that. Fiction is always about the characters. The ad business is the setting, not the subject. It's important to the show only insofar as it provides motivation and context for what the characters do and how they relate to each other.

I was watching this episode with my screenwriter son last night, who is home for a few days. He turns to me and says, "When we were casting Knight Rider I really wanted Jessica Pare for Sarah (female lead). I worked with her at Justin's (already cast male lead) house, and fought hard for her with the NBC brass. They nixed her, saying she wasn't pretty enough.

NBC, again proving they deserve everything they've gotten for the past decade. And, I bet she's pretty happy that didn't work out!

Here's a little blurb about the "It's toasted!" slogan for Lucky Strikes:

Time, in 1938, recounting testimony of the advertising man George Washington Hill:

But the most interesting irrelevancy of the trial was the following story about the origin of the Lucky Strike slogan: "My father [Percival S. Hill, whom George succeeded in 1925] was anxious to put out the brand of Lucky Strike cigarets, and I was not willing to put it out because I was sales manager and responsible to him for the success or failure of it, and I didn't have a reason for it. I went over to the factory one day . . . and when I got within three blocks of the factory it was very apparent to me the delicious odor and aroma of the tobacco as it passed through the toasting machines. ... I said to my father, 'There is something to that process and I cannot express it.' He says, 'What do you mean?' I said, 'He cooks it, cooks the tobacco.' My father says, 'That doesn't mean anything, he cooks the tobacco, that doesn't mean anything; there is no sense in that.' . . . A man by the name of Gerson Brown came in the room at that same time and father turned to this fellow and he says, 'Gerson, what do you have that is appetizing to which heat has been applied?' And Brown says, 'I always have toast in the morning.' My father says, 'That is it-It is toasted.' And my father created the phrase that way."

http://www.theawl.com/2009/07/mad-me...ct-and-fiction

There are times Jessica Pare reminds me of Carly Foulkes the T-Mobile girl.

I agree. Although I think Pare is striking and beautiful, Foulkes is adorable and cute, and pretty darn sexy in her little pink outfits. I also like her perky sass.

"She'll spread her legs and fly away" I started laughing the same time Roger did. Good stuff!

haha, me too...

Laser Beans. Just ask Rockette Morton.

larry

I'm still bugged by the inconsistency of the characters this season. Last episode Don and Megan acted like spoiled children which led to a violent argument. Now they're the power couple reading each other minds, acting like they're perfect for each other as if it had Don had never left her in a HoJo's parking lot. The whole argument last episode was pointless.

Pete got pummeled and humiliated by his coworkers but now his face is fine and he's back doing his job as if it had never happened, so the incident was pointless.

The show is having dramatic individual episodes but it's just resetting characters for the next episode. The only characters that are developing are Megan who is now suddenly a genius copywriter and Sally who is being traumatized every time she's in an episode. It's like the show has ended Peggy's story as being the focus of the new generation of advertising talent and it's now retelling the same story with Megan. It's like watching the first season again except Peggy's story was more interesting.

Roger is now interested in doing his job thanks to LSD so I guess that's character development but let's see how long that lasts!

Wow I didn't expect Sally finding Roger in that position and with whom...

Megan's mom is kinda hot at her age IMO..

Yes, Julia Ormond still is and has always been a "hottie."

I don't think Mad Men ever claimed to be that, any more than Bewitched was about a guy in the advertising business, or Cheers was about how to run a bar. It's a story about characters who incidentally work in the advertising business., as a setting that gives the writers an opportunity to poke at the culture and values of the 60's.

Julia Ormond is only 47, she ain't THAT old.

I disagree. The point of last episode was for Don to realize that he needs to get back to work. The purpose of this episode seemed to be showing him how that can be rewarding from both a work and marriage perspective... before it's dashed on the rocks at the very end.

This episode seemed like a classic example of the idea that, when you're winning, nothing's wrong. And then comes the fall.


I agree a little bit here, but the reality is we've seen Pete for maybe 3 minutes of screen time since he broke down in the elevator. And I think the reality is that the fight was never going to have consequences. It was just a way to let off some excess steam. The office is and has always been a boys' club/fraternity, so it's not surprising they wouldn't give a lot of attention to something as insignificant as a harmless fight.


I don't think "suddenly" is an accurate characterization. The implication all season has been that Megan is good at her job, but Don would rather she play housewife than be a member of the team. This was just her finally breaking through.


I agree that Peggy has taken a back seat. I don't think one episode where Megan has success means we're retelling the same story. The ending seemed to indicate that Megan doesn't really like her job, and that Don can never enjoy the success he once had.

That might be true if that was the story, but I disagree that it is. Peggy's is the story of a straight-laced Catholic girl raised in the Fifties becoming a politically and morally sophisticated Manhattanite. Politics, music, civil rights, out-of-wedlock birth, and now cohabitation -- which was a *huge* hot-button issue at the time, on the scale of same-sex marriage or abortion today -- are the milestones in Peggy's journey, not the advertising industry which, again, is the context, not the narrative.

I think that trying to see Mad Men as "a show about advertising" makes you miss most of what it's actually about.

I've noticed that people wanting the shows they watch to be about something specific is very common. In the "Community" thread, people are always complaining that they're not spending enough time in class.

I don't understand it, but some people are so fixated on it.

Laser Beans. Just ask Rockette Morton.

Big-eyed beans from Venus
Don't let anything get in between us

Yeah but being with that oldie, adds some years to her age.. LOL

Well Megan is almost the same situation, she's on her 20's while Don just hit 40..

Exactly, right...Season #1 had a fight Pete vs. Kenny over the "Lobster Tail" joke about Peggy.

I bet that scarred sally for life. haha

She's a beautiful, fascinating woman. 47 ain't too old for me.

Neither is 71, if the party in question is Raquel Welch.

Didn't care for the Sally shocker.

I don't care how horny you are there is no way that two people, Roger and Megan's mom, are going to be caught in that situation. Maybe they'd find a big closet or vacant small room but to be in a huge unlocked room is ridiculous. And to not hear the door open, give me a break. Very poor writing.

Some people are risk takers, especially when some part of her wants to throw something confrontational into her philandering husband's face. And clearly she was driving that particular bus.

Meanwhile, some other people are definitely in an... accepting mood.

Plus, it's 1966. What's going to happen? If anyone were to come through that door, they would simply close it quietly and say nothing. Exactly what did happen.

Uh, trust me on this one, it could happen. Honest.