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post #1711 of 2329
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Originally Posted by Joseph View Post

Of course not. Did Betty's divorce from Don end her character?

Those 2 situations are unrelated. Betty and Don still share children so she is still in the picture. Plus, how many scenes has she been in this year?

Regarding Peggy, just about anyone else who has left SCDP has left the show for all practical purposes.
post #1712 of 2329
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Originally Posted by antneye View Post

Did anyone else think, for a split second, that Peggy was going to get in the elevator and it wasn't going to be there?

just for a second.....

I did.
post #1713 of 2329
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Originally Posted by gwsat View Post

Couldn't agree more, especially since Peggy is going to work for Ted Chaough, who well and truly hates Don Draper. Better yet, Don hates Chaough just as ardently. Clearly, Chaough would be delighted to use Peggy to help him rob SCDP of more key employees or anything else that might hurt Don.

Ken would be an obvious employee for her to poach. He's not going anywhere at SCDP as long as Pete's a partner.
post #1714 of 2329
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Originally Posted by blitzen102 View Post

Bah! Competition with the other Ad firms has always been part of the story. It will just get now more fun and intense. Not only in competition for business, but competition for talent as well.

Sure, but we'v only seen one side of the competition. We haven't watched the competing advertising agencies putting together their pitches, or thinking of strategies to thwart Don & Co. If they start doing that on a regular basis to follow Peggy, they'll have to drop some other story lines if they want to give the stories any depth. That's just a fact. There's only so many pages in a script, and so many minutes in the time slot.
post #1715 of 2329
I believe that Peggy's leaving of SCDP will be handled like when Joan and Kenny left.

They will find a way to slowly and naturally weave her back into the plot.

Honestly, I would enjoy less Betty, Megan and circumstantially -Peggy; and more Joan.

The new guys could get more attention..that would be interesting.
post #1716 of 2329
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Originally Posted by antneye View Post

Did anyone else think, for a split second, that Peggy was going to get in the elevator and it wasn't going to be there?

just for a second.....

I did.


larry
post #1717 of 2329
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Originally Posted by URFloorMatt View Post

Ken would be an obvious employee for her to poach. He's not going anywhere at SCDP as long as Pete's a partner.

What about the Jewish guy? There's no love lost between Don and him. But then again Peggy's not too keen on him either.
post #1718 of 2329
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Originally Posted by bruce73 View Post

What about the Jewish guy? There's no love lost between Don and him. But then again Peggy's not too keen on him either.

Not too keen!!!??? That's the understatement of the year.
post #1719 of 2329
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Originally Posted by boilerjim View Post

not too keen!!!??? That's the understatement of the year.

:d
post #1720 of 2329
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Originally Posted by antneye View Post

Did anyone else think, for a split second, that Peggy was going to get in the elevator and it wasn't going to be there?

just for a second.....

Count me in. I was thinking "Oh, no.....oh, no....."

On the subject of Joan....Shouldn't she have been a partner (or equivalent) before now? She was indispensable when SCDP did it's "panic weekend" founding. Multiple persons at the firm noticed the lag when she was gone. Maybe a silent partner, but she deserved some kind of stake in the (then) new company. It's lousy that she had to do what she did (and it seems that she didn't "have to" after all), but it got the job done. In some ways she was more integral to SCDP than Peggy, even if she wasn't "creative".
post #1721 of 2329
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Originally Posted by crabboy View Post

On the subject of Joan....Shouldn't she have been a partner (or equivalent) before now? She was indispensable when SCDP did it's "panic weekend" founding. Multiple persons at the firm noticed the lag when she was gone. Maybe a silent partner, but she deserved some kind of stake in the (then) new company. It's lousy that she had to do what she did (and it seems that she didn't "have to" after all), but it got the job done. In some ways she was more integral to SCDP than Peggy, even if she wasn't "creative".

Agreed. Despite the firm's reprehensible conduct leading up to Joan's promotion to partner, they couldn't have done anything smarter. Joan has more managerial ability than everybody else there put together, it seems to me.
post #1722 of 2329
What about the Jewish guy? There's no love lost between Don and him. But then again Peggy's not too keen on him either.

They all realize he's capable even if they find him annoying.
post #1723 of 2329
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Originally Posted by Shaded Dogfood View Post

What about the Jewish guy? There's no love lost between Don and him. But then again Peggy's not too keen on him either.

They all realize he's capable even if they find him annoying.

I was thinking from his perspective. That he would be ready to jump if Peggy made him an offer.
post #1724 of 2329
Another great hour of television.
post #1725 of 2329
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Originally Posted by bruce73 View Post

I was thinking from his perspective. That he would be ready to jump if Peggy made him an offer.

After he just made the Jaguar campaign? He's got some chips to cash in. As Don noticed when Joan brought in the one-sheets, he's all over all of their campaigns. SCDP cannot afford to lose him, especially with Peggy gone.
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Did anyone else think, for a split second, that Peggy was going to get in the elevator and it wasn't going to be there?

just for a second.....

I did... until I saw the light from the opening elevator door.
post #1727 of 2329
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Originally Posted by URFloorMatt View Post

After he just made the Jaguar campaign? He's got some chips to cash in. As Don noticed when Joan brought in the one-sheets, he's all over all of their campaigns. SCDP cannot afford to lose him, especially with Peggy gone.

I agree that SCDP can ill afford to lose Michael Ginsberg. Even with Don back on his game, more or less, Ginsberg is the best creative talent the firm has, by far. Having him follow Peggy out the door would be a serious blow.
post #1728 of 2329
LOL... I thought the "copy my arse" came in the 70's but hey... and had to be Pete

post #1729 of 2329
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Originally Posted by crabboy View Post

Count me in. I was thinking "Oh, no.....oh, no....."

On the subject of Joan....Shouldn't she have been a partner (or equivalent) before now? She was indispensable when SCDP did it's "panic weekend" founding. Multiple persons at the firm noticed the lag when she was gone. Maybe a silent partner, but she deserved some kind of stake in the (then) new company. It's lousy that she had to do what she did (and it seems that she didn't "have to" after all), but it got the job done. In some ways she was more integral to SCDP than Peggy, even if she wasn't "creative".

Joan is a woman in the 60s. Don't you get it?
post #1730 of 2329
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Originally Posted by DrLar View Post

LOL... I thought the "copy my arse" came in the 70's but hey... and had to be Pete

LOL. I totally missed that in the BG.
post #1731 of 2329
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Originally Posted by blitzen102 View Post

Joan is a woman in the 60s. Don't you get it?

well, duh. Guess I just got ahead of myself (or them).
post #1732 of 2329
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Originally Posted by Shaded Dogfood View Post

What about the Jewish guy? There's no love lost between Don and him. But then again Peggy's not too keen on him either.

They all realize he's capable even if they find him annoying.

I don't think Peggy and Don hate Ginsberg --- they just find him so different than what they are used to. They are unsure of what to think or feel about him. The both seem to think he is talented.
post #1733 of 2329
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Originally Posted by crabboy View Post

well, duh. Guess I just got ahead of myself (or them).

Sorry, that was mostly tongue-in-cheek.

Yes, I aggree with you, Joan deserved it for what she did for the company, but it was very rare for it to happen at that time. Women's contributions were often mostly ignored.
post #1734 of 2329
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Originally Posted by vfxproducer View Post

LOL. I totally missed that in the BG.

I wish Joan would've taken some of her beauties... (we know she did on real life LOL)
post #1735 of 2329
Pete, wow... he is a piece of work. Right behind Don. lol

What was up with the second time where Don's at Joan's place? Or was that like a rewind of Joan's point of view?

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Originally Posted by PiratesCove View Post

Honestly, I would enjoy less Betty, Megan and circumstantially -Peggy; and more Joan.

I'm pretty sure everyone agrees with that even Hendricks ever inflating bOObies. LOL

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Originally Posted by Ken H View Post

Another great hour of television.

Yes YES! it was!
post #1736 of 2329
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Originally Posted by Vipfreak View Post

What was up with the second time where Don's at Joan's place? Or was that like a rewind of Joan's point of view?

It was a flashback to illustrate Joan had already been with the Jag guy, even though she didn't let Don know that.

Now that I think about it, it didn't make a lot of sense for her to hide it. As a full partner, Don was going to find out anyway. Maybe she wanted his sympathy.
post #1737 of 2329
Was not the Jaguar guy but the head of the Car Dealerships, who would not put any Jag for sale if Joan said no...
post #1738 of 2329
Yeah, I guess that's why it made it confusing.
post #1739 of 2329
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Originally Posted by Vipfreak View Post

Pete, wow... he is a piece of work. Right behind Don. lol

Don has an inner morailty, even if it's one that we might not agree with or understand.
Don - (Don's morality) - charm = Pete
post #1740 of 2329
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Originally Posted by Ken H View Post

Now that I think about it, it didn't make a lot of sense for her to hide it. As a full partner, Don was going to find out anyway. Maybe she wanted his sympathy.

Sure it made sense. Joan was being gracious to Don, and it had nothing to do with sympathy. Had she told him at that time, she would have been denying him his moment to take the moral high ground and display how her virtue was more important to him than landing the big account. She allowed him that out of close friendship and respect, and because she recognized it as Don's genuine display of chivalry and honor. Of course she knew he would find out later, but that doesn't mean she has to spoil the moment for him.

It's a subtle, but important bit of graciousness.
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