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Couldn't they just have pulled Sal off the Lucky Strike account without terminating him completely? They could have told the lecherous client that they'll be contracting out the artwork and commercial directing work, if necessary. Harry really dropped the ball on that one. And Roger's flip reaction to the situation: You're Fired! was pretty coldblooded, even for him. Wonder what Sal is going to do? Hope he doesn't despair to the point of "ending it all". Maybe he'll decide to take one for the team after all?

We thought Betty was going to be the one to start an affair, but it was actually Don. The pretty teacher folded like cheap linen, didn't she ("no" means "yes, yes, YES")...? Superhuman powers indeed.

Don heard all the business Betty was going on about over the phone to convince him the mysterious visit was really just about a meeting for Rockefeller. You can't play a player. Possibly Don regarded this as an excuse to embark on another affair.

And I didn't think the Hilton campaign Don presented was all that hot. Old Connie wanted a certain mystical feel that Don certainly did not deliver. His wanting "the Moon" didn't necessarily mean he wanted a picture of a Hilton on the Moon (or at least not in every ad).

This year seems to be flailing around with little direction, but that might be the point. November 22nd is looming, and with it the end of an era. It's certainly a dark season, devoid of much hope.

Not that he really ever needs an excuse. In his world, it's acceptable, as are many things.


Yes, Connie does seem to sometime speak in parables and metaphors, expecting Don to understand since he's a "kindred spirit" (whom he met over "spirits"). Makes me wonder how much research Matt Weiner and his writers do with regard to some of these historical characters featured on the show. They're pretty obsessive about their historical accuracy. They've really painted a vivid portrait of Conrad Hilton. How close do we think it is to the real guy? And would his heirs and those who knew him approve? And, does any of that matter to Weiner and AMC?

There are only four episodes left and there have been far too many dead-end plots not to mention dream sequences, hallucinations, and other useless filler this season. They spent a third of an episode on Sally stealing from her grandfather. They spent a third of an episode on Pete hooking up with the au-pair across the hall. They spent half of an episode saying good bye to the Brit who ended up staying anyway. They spent a third of an episode with Roger singing in black-face. Why end an episode with a shocking plot development when you can pad it out with Joan playing an accordion? Season two was a roller coaster ride. This season I often have trouble remembering the one or two important things that happened last week.

A lot of people are hoping that Sterling Cooper goes head on with Gray's. At least that would be something new and interesting and have something to do with the advertising business in the early 60's and less to do with what miserable lives people led in the early 60's.

Now, that's REAL funny! Did anyone notice how Pete's 3 minutes in this episode had him coughing uncontrollably. Once again that's funny. Betty is was beyond confused and this episode proved it. Don is really slipping, catering to CRAZY CONNIE, co-signing on poor Sal's termination and cheating that close to home with his daughter's teacher. All of this train-wreck antics Ad(d) [pun-intended] up to a Mad Men CLASSIC!!!!

This show does open every week with an Ad Man (Mad Man) falling about 40 stories to his doom. Perhaps that's a hint as to how this season is going?

Season 2 was stellar, Season 1 was outstanding and I believe that Season 3 is just as good as the previous two, just very off-beat and different. I didn't notice one wasted minute or plot point, and the character development has never been better.

Hmmm.

If I compare this season to season two or season one it's very disjointed and is more concerned with what's going on in the 60s than what's going on at the office, which is why I started watching.

If things don't pick up, I don't know if I'll be back for season 4.

That doesn't mean it's not good, just that it's losing its appeal to me.

As far as Don's campaign, I thought it was brilliant - it gave me the same type of thrills as the carousel campaign.

To me, Hilton is just so used to getting what he wants (note his associates who nodded at the campaign only after Connie said it was good) that it's not about whether the campaign is good or bad, it's merely that Don didn't do what he told him to.

In my opinion it's the third season and the characters are developed so they should stop wasting our time showing us what we already know about them, over and over and over like we've never seen the show before.

The show is about the advertising business in the early 60's. The writers seem to be avoiding that and preferring to spin its wheels in soap opera drama this season. For example, Duck shows up proposing that Pete and Peggy switch over to Gray's. Great, something that will shake up SC and show us new things about business in the early 60's. Their defection to another agency would be a major juncture in the show. So far, Peggy has slept with Duck and Pete has slept with the au-pair across the hall. Thanks for reminding us that people had sex in the 60's, Mad Men. Was Duck going to be another dead end plot? If not I'm sure they'll squish it into fifteen minutes at the end of the season so it won't distract us from Don and Betty.

They've also given up intertwining story lines. Every episode this season has been mostly the Don and Betty show. Look, there's Peggy on the screen for two minutes. Good to see she still works at SC. Wasn't she a big part of season one when the show was about the male-dominated advertising business? Now she only gets screen time when she's smoking pot or sleeping around. Harry has gotten about twenty minutes, mostly when they need someone to look stupid. Paul might as well not be on the show any more.

At least this week we got to see an actual presentation to a client so we know that SC is still in business. What happened to Don spending a whole season trying to schmooze a big client? Remember the Madison Square Garden business at the beginning of the season? Yep, another dead end plot.

^ Ouch

over on the official mad men board somebody speculated weiner may be limiting screen appearances of original cast members as a negotiation ploy.

doesn't sound that far-fetched imo.

doesn't sound that far-fetched imo.

...on this show or any number of other shows...

I agree, the campaign was great, Hilton is just weird and difficult.

I don't know about Conrad Hilton, but look at his great grand daughter. What more do you to need to know? HHMM Wonder if the whole Conrad arc is righting some wrong Paris did to Weiner?

The Orbiter Hilton Hotel, as seen in 1968's 2001:A Space Odyssey. So did real life Connie Hilton 5 years later finally get his hotel ad launched from space? While I was watching this ep, I couldn't help but wonder if he had anything to do with that movie's product placement. You remember? The scene with Floyd and the Russians in that curved white meeting room, talking about the bogus epidemic. That was in a space based Hilton. There's even a product placement within that product placement, with a sign for the "Hover Hilton".

Now there's something Don couldn't deliver on.

Yeah, did you notice from the invitation they showed a few episodes back, Roger's daughter is supposed to get married on November 23?

(My birthday is Nov. 23, noticed it right off.)

Someone on another board did research on the show's research and found this Time magazine article. It appears to be where they found the Hilton "To the Moon!" concept.

Hilton in 1963 was expanding like mad all over the world. They had opened something like seven hotels in seven countries in the spring of that year alone and expected to have as many hotels overseas as they did in the U.S. by the end of the year.

One problem with ensemble casts is after every season all actors have to get a raise to stay on the show. That adds up to a lot of money for a low-budget cable show like Mad Men. It feels like they may ditch or replace some of the secondary characters to keep the main actors like Jon Hamm and January Jones on the show. Don't be surprised to see the Harry, Paul, and Ken characters be reduced to occasional appearances.

Also after a couple of seasons sometimes the main actors start using their influence to steer the show in the direction they want. If Hamm and Jones want this to be the Don and Betty show, that's probably what it's going to be.

Yeah, did you notice from the invitation they showed a few episodes back, Roger's daughter is supposed to get married on November 23?

(My birthday is Nov. 23, noticed it right off.)

I did notice that, but they don't seem very close to Fall, so that crucial date may have to wait for next season.

So, you are actually Miley Cyrus? (Colbert revealed her birthdate last week)

Now that would be just deserts.

My bet is that's the ending note for this season.

The 1960 Election was and I too agree Nov 22 will be.

School has already started back so you figure we are into late September, early October by now in the time line. Nov 22 would be the next major event, along with Roger Sterling's daughters wedding on the 23rd! Any bets that DOESN'T take place and it has NOTHING to do with the assassination (of Kennedy at least)?

The Career Girl Murders which was on the radio when Don picked up the jogging teacher happened on August 28th. They'll have to do about an episode for every month to catch up with the Kennedy assassination.

They jumped 2 years from season 1 to season 2. What is a couple months between episodes?

Especially since things don't change very quickly in the characters' lives.

Definitely not Miley Cyrus

Another winner!! Great episode, very epic with lots of tension points. Don has never seemed more sinister, yet charismatic and celebrated. Betty hits a new set of emotional lows and finds MOST of Don's dark secrets. The teacher that Don's cheating with turns out to be a great character with depth. The Paul and Peggy sub-plot was quite entertaining. The only downside was no Joan or Pete,but Sterling, Cooper and the Brit really fleshed out their true fellings, a real revelation. Not to mention the idea of a new owner for the company, by the way can't help but wonder where's Sal and Connie?

This episode was the equal of the best from season 1 or 2. What a pleasure.

True and it had slight parallels to the pilot from season 1. Like Don says, "In the end it all works out".

I'm obviously not THAT old since I'm asking this but... Were you truely able to drink and drive "back then" as well as Drink at work??

As for the show, I don't think there's been a bad episode to this show. I love it all. Anyway, Don might be screwed or at least his marriage might although this isn't his first rodeo. lol