Official Sony W3000 Series Thread - Page 5

Originally Posted by sanction1

Fry's at Downers Grove in Illinois had 40" W3000 and V3000 next to each other, showing some dolphin movie clip, played from a computer. The V3000 was taking the computer input through HDMI--I don't think the V2500 could do this. Both looked very nice, but both also had severe false contouring problems.

Originally Posted by Netjoy69

It's a CLOUDY day in Miami!

I just purchased the 46W3000 for my bedroom, and was very excited until I turned the TV on and saw the cursed clouds everyone talks about. The cloud patches are very large and can easily be seen when changing inputs or channels, however, I have not noticed them during regular programming. I am very dissapointed, since the TV on display in the store had very even backlighting.

I will be returning this TV tomorrow for another unit.

Originally Posted by tombaker

How was this transported to your house....what angle was the LCD...sitting up in a mini van....or flat in back of truck or whatever. How long was the car ride to your house....how bumpy the road?

You can see why am asking.....wondering if a means of transporting can cause damage to the display resulting in clouds

Originally Posted by SonyPointGuy

I ordered a 46W3000 from Curcuit City last Sunday, and 45 minutes later my wife went into to labor. Twelve hours later and a little girl that came a month early, I didn't have time to pick it up till Thursday and till Friday late to set it up.

Originally Posted by SonyPointGuy

I think the W runs its internal clock at 120hz so that it can show 24p, but doesn't do the interpreation between 60p frames to make a 120p image. That is why it doesn't have motion flow. That is just my guess, based on the fact that it has the 24p movie mode that the SonyStyle guy is not a fancy 3:2 pull down.

The SonyStyle guy also bemoaned the changing spec pages on the website.

I ordered a 46W3000 from Curcuit City last Sunday, and 45 minutes later my wife went into to labor. Twelve hours later and a little girl that came a month early, I didn't have time to pick it up till Thursday and till Friday late to set it up.

It is about an inch wider than a V2500, based on specs. It was bit bigger than what my wife expected, and it was really close to going back for a 40inch model. I also bought a S300 BD player and three movies. I've only watched two. "Open Season" and "Black Hawk Down". I just tried a few scenes in BHD to test it out. The scene where the helicopters start their initial attack almost made my wife puke b/c of motion sickness; NICE!

"Open Season" was for my 2 year old. You know you have something when he sees it and goes "Cool" and "Nice". Every single twig and strand of fur can be seen.

HD cable thru Comcast is hit or miss. Local ABC channel, most watched by the wife, touts their HD all the time, but looks like crap usually. Some of the other HD channels are awesome. I watched some baseball and tennis and didn't see much problems with streaking or such. Almost makes me want to watch hockey on TV again.

The S300 and W3000 do a good job showing regular DVDs. Not BD quality, but pretty darn good.

I thought I saw some clouds, but it was when I just got the TV, I have not seen them since. I almost think it may be becuase the set was not warmed up, or maybe even reflections from the other room.

Vivid is just too hot for me, standard isn't bad. I've set up Custom 1 between Vivid and STD,with more mpeg and other processing. Cimema is nice for regular DVDs or anything that is too harsh in the other options. I was getting a lot of jaggies and harsh angles with Vivid, plus it is just too bright.

To me it is all about signal. If it is getting a 1080 signal, it just straight rocks. Less than that it does OK, and I know, we don't all live in a 1080 world. The worst is stuff thru Comcast HD cable, upscaling sometimes is a bit odd, plus the switch of 4:3 to zoom-wide that I have set to automatically happen sometimes doesn't. I have a feeling that I'm going to set up the customs for 1) True 1080Hd, 2)Regular DVDs 3) SD stuff over the HD cable.

I have to give Sony a cheer and a jeer. Jeer for a thin manual for the TV and Player. Cheers for making the TV pretty easy to use out of the box, yet be fairly customizable thru some deeper menus. HDMI is awesome, my wife freaks on cables, so that is helping bunches. Unless I had read these forums, I don't think I would have found all the things you can tweak, since I wouldn't have known to look for them.

Even my wife grudingly agrees that it has a great picture and looks good. We'll know more today when we see how "General Hospital" looks.

Mark

Originally Posted by quyen51

Congrats, can you play your BD movies in 1080p24 direct mode output to the W and compare if it makes any difference than 1080p60 mode when you get a chance?

Thanks.

Originally Posted by SonyPointGuy

Between the new TV, player, and baby I haven't had time to figure out how to flip that back and forth.

How do I know if a movie is encoded 24p?
How do you flip from 60 to 24?

Mark

Originally Posted by WaldorfSalad

You seem determined to try and convince everyone (in other threads also) that the clouding problem is fixed at the factory level when if fact the jury is still out because there have been so few reports of good and bad sets so far. The clouding problem is in the way the LCD panels are manufactured, not how the TV is brought home from the store. Every TV gets transported some way or another, whether it be from the factory to the store, or the store to the home either by the customer or the store delivery people in their truck.

Originally Posted by bweimer

I purchased a KDL46W3000 at Fry's. I had to lay it flat on its back in the back of the car for about 5 minutes to get it home.
Bruce

Originally Posted by tombaker

As everyone who has looked at the displays has not seen clouds, there is no reason to settle.

Originally Posted by CGIM5804

clouds? does it really matter? unless you see them while actually watching content what's the big deal if you only see them while flipping between inputs or on a blank screen?

Originally Posted by tombaker

How was this transported to your house....what angle was the LCD...sitting up in a mini van....or flat in back of truck or whatever. How long was the car ride to your house....how bumpy the road?

You can see why am asking.....wondering if a means of transporting can cause damage to the display resulting in clouds

clouds? does it really matter?

Originally Posted by CGIM5804

clouds? does it really matter? unless you see them while actually watching content what's the big deal if you only see them while flipping between inputs or on a blank screen?

Originally Posted by georgeorwell

Are you on drugs? There are 3 people on this thread alone who have taken the set home and seen clouds....but yet you say everyone has not seen clouds.

Can we start calling you "tom baker the cloud expert"?

Originally Posted by georgeorwell

I just don't think you can make the statement that you can "buy them with a reasonable expectation that they will be without clouds." You don't know that. Where is your data? Maybe you can, maybe you can't....time will tell. Maybe you should start a poll thread asking the question of people that actually buy the 3000 whether they have clouds, that will give you far better data.

Personally, I'm going to put much more value on the review of someone that has taken the set home and tried it, especially for something like clouds (which are masked by ambient light, particularly in places like Store X).

Originally Posted by malikriz

check out overview on this link guys. Do you find any thing wrong?

http://www.cdw.com/shop/products/def...px?EDC=1259772