Originally Posted by georgeorwell
OK, so far it's a love/hate relationship with the W3000. On startup, there are no clouds. However, once it's been on awhile, there are definite clouds between inputs, as well as some corner light leakage. I tried to take pics of this, but couldn't beat Sony's auto dimming feature which quickly dimmed out the clouds. Also, when I threw dark scenes at it...Star Wars, Serenity, The Descent.....the clouds could not be seen, nor the corner light leakage (as opposed to the 2500 which was there all the time). In fact, the black was downright beautiful. I even cranked up brightness in FSX to see the clouds (the ones that are supposed to be there) at night while flying, and it did a beautiful job at that without light leakage or mura.
Colors. Holy Sh$% does this set do amazing colors. No more exaggerated green and all the colors stand out. Whether it was SD on DTV, digital pics on the PC, games, or HD DVD, the colors were all amazing. In fact King Kong on HD DVD was the most amazing picture I have seen on any set, ever. It looked 3-dimensional. My mouth was open and I was drooling.
Contrast was amazing. I had the 4661 side by side with the 2500 and the Sammy had better contrast (no surprise there). Now the W3000 has real whites and good blacks. I'm not real happy with my white adjustments yet, but they are definitely better than the Sammy which I believe crushed whites.
Now my complaints. Vivid mode was the only one I could stomach. Normal/Standard was OK, but all the others turned the picture yellow. I don't really like Vivid, I think it's too bright and backlight and brightness don't do much to it. Also, you can't make any advanced setting changes in Vivid. Maybe I just need more time to get the Custom setting to my liking. However....one thing I noticed was that every setting except Vivid made my DTV menu slightly blurry. It is very weird. I'm used to how sharp the 2500 is and you could really see it on my menus on any picture setting. Not so with this set. Vivid makes the menu very sharp, everything else not so sharp, regardless of sharpness/edge enhancement/noise settings. I can't really say it impacted the video, which makes it even weirder. This one needs more research.
Finally, when connecting my PC via HDMI, the only way I can get it to fill the screen is Fill 2. According to the manual, there is a Full Pixel setting, but it won't offer it to me over HDMI, however the Fill 2 seems to be full pixel. I'll need to throw some software at it to see if that's actually happening. Maybe I'm just missing something in this new menu system (which I don't like).
So after a few hours, the jury is still out. I'm not sure it's worth the $800 more than the 2500. I don't have them side by side to compare. My initial thought is it's not, however if you take the 3000 away and put the 2500 back, my thought may change.
AFAIK this is the first review of W3000. Many thanks for you effort. Hopefully you will be able to dig in a bit deeper into settings. I am particularly interesting in the following features/controls and there effect on PQ:
1. PIP seems to me is useless as it dos not allow any HD signal on second channel. At the same time P&P can display HD signal but limited by analog signal only (No HDMI).
2. XMB menu system is difficult to get used to, not an intuitive type of interface.
3. Picture mode - You are recommending Vivid mode for all sources. BTW what feeds you have tested?
4. Did you have a chance to play with other Picture settings: BL, contrast, brightness, color temp.? According to the manual custom mode is available for each input with individual settings.
5. Advanced PQ settings: auto BL adjustments, black/white/gamma correction and color space settings. Any comments re effect of this parameters on PQ would be priceless.
6. How this unit is sound compare to 2500 or 61 you've tested before?
7. Any observations on how this set managed picture zooming and aspect ratio in auto mode.
8. 1:1 mapping for computer 1080p60 signal via DVI-HDMI for me is very important. Does Full Pixel mode work or not?
9. CineMotion mode in auto supposes to detect 1080p24 feed. If you own PS3 in 1.9 FW it is possible now to force the PS3 to channel 1080p24 signal from B-R. So we have 3 option PS3 is doing 3:2 pulldown and transmit 1080p60 signal to TV(CineMotion - OFF), PS3 forced to send 1080p24 to TV (CineMotion - OFF) and PS3 forced to send 1080p24 to TV (CineMotion - ON or Auto). Any input on this issue would be crucial.
10. Looks like Game/Text mode can be good if this set is used as PS monitor. Does it do any changes?
11. I am curious what Video/Photo Optimizer, Color Matrix and Color Space settings from Video Option Menu can do for the PQ.
12. You may be interesting to play with Light Sensor and Power Sever settings from General menu. This settings might be responsible for the dimming affect you observed.
13. This TV has new remote control, how would you assess its ergonomics.
On a side note if it is not a big trouble for you could provide a transport box dimensions. Does TV is attached to the pedestal in transport position?
Am I asking too much? If yes, please forgive me