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post #121 of 6353
I've never used/seen the 970 or the 980. Is the drawer smooth or clunky? Is the transport smooth or noisy? I figure something must be compromised for the bargain price!
Was going to get the 970 for the 480i hdmi out and sacd over pcm but now it looks like the 980 for me, and the case looks better too to boot!

Any advantages to getting the 970 over the 980?

thanks
post #122 of 6353
The 980's drawer is very smooth and the front panel controls are very responsive. I haven't noticed any transport noise when loading discs into it, although since I have it behind a closed door I may not be the best judge. I don't know of any benefits for the 970 over the 980, unless you preferred the appearance of the 970.
post #123 of 6353
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Originally Posted by The Bogg View Post

I've never used/seen the 970 or the 980. Is the drawer smooth or clunky? Is the transport smooth or noisy? I figure something must be compromised for the bargain price!

All of the OPPO designs, save for when they are defective units, have a very silent transport operation. The drawers move in and out smoothly with little to no noise, and the operation of the player is whisper quiet.
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Any advantages to getting the 970 over the 980?

In terms of aesthetics, the DV-980H looks much better than the DV-970HD. Beyond that, you have a superior USB interface, as well as a refined circuit board. Unless you are going to buy refurbished (at which the DV-970HD is a hard to beat price) I would spend a little more for the DV-980H.
post #124 of 6353
Could you compare the Oppo 980 with the new Pionner DV-600?
Thanks.
post #125 of 6353
Great. Thanks guys, 980 it is. I'll just wait for them to start showing up here in Canada.
post #126 of 6353
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Originally Posted by The Bogg View Post

Great. Thanks guys, 980 it is. I'll just wait for them to start showing up here in Canada.

Why bother? The Canadian dollar is at 96.7 right now. We are basically at par. You can order the 980 from the Oppo website or Amazon.com I believe.

Onlybestrated . com doesnt have the 980 in stock yet.
post #127 of 6353
Placed my order. The 970 was my last silver component, so I'm happy to have a sexy collection of black components again.
post #128 of 6353
Is the 980 quick to boot and can a universal remote control start sending it commands right away after the ON command, as part of a macro? I've seen DVD players that show a welcome message and don't respond to commands for like 10 sec. so you'd have to program long delays in the macros.
post #129 of 6353
Thread Starter 
The DV-980H is like the previous designs by OPPO: It will take about 7 seconds to start responding to controls other than Power and Eject.
post #130 of 6353
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Originally Posted by Neuromancer View Post

The DV-980H is like the previous designs by OPPO: It will take about 7 seconds to start responding to controls other than Power and Eject.

Hi Neuromancer,

Much was made of, and my interest in the 970, was in the high quality of the audio, much better sounding than the 971 or 981 and quite a bargain at it's price point.

Could you comment on the similarity or dissimilarities between the 980 and 970 in this regard and could you be specific where relevant with regards to the digital audio out vs the analog audio out.

FYI, I bought both a 970 and 971. Liked the picture on the 971 much better but kept the 970 because of it's better audio. I use the 5.1 analog out into an Arcam AVR. I would buy a 980 though if the audio were as good and I could get rid of the overscan bars when upconverting the video to 720P.

Thanks.
post #131 of 6353
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I can discern no difference in the audio quality of the DV-970HD and the DV-980H when using the analog outputs or HDMI PCM. I know OPPO spent some time altering the player, such as using different capacitors, resistors, and board layout to improve the audio performance of their DV-980H, but I personally do not hear a difference in tonal quality. Which is, to say, that at least the DV-980H sounds the same (no worse) then the DV-970HD.
post #132 of 6353
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Originally Posted by Neuromancer View Post

The DV-970HD had a compression error at the upscaled resolutions which caused additional bars to appear on the display. Depending on the design of the television, these bars were either non-existent, were very thin (several pixels) or up to half an inch.

Thanx for the info.

Sanjay
post #133 of 6353
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Originally Posted by Neuromancer View Post

I can discern no difference in the audio quality of the DV-970HD and the DV-981HD when using the analog outputs or HDMI PCM. I know OPPO spent some time altering the player, such as using different capacitors, resistors, and board layout to improve the audio performance of their DV-980H, but I personally do not hear a difference in tonal quality. Which is, to say, that at least the DV-980H sounds the same (no worse) then the DV-970HD.

No difference between the 970 and 981 or 970 and 980? You have both listed and its a tad confusing...
post #134 of 6353
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Originally Posted by Neuromancer View Post

All of the OPPO designs, save for when they are defective units, have a very silent transport operation. The drawers move in and out smoothly with little to no noise, and the operation of the player is whisper quiet.

In terms of aesthetics, the DV-980H looks much better than the DV-970HD. Beyond that, you have a superior USB interface, as well as a refined circuit board. Unless you are going to buy refurbished (at which the DV-970HD is a hard to beat price) I would spend a little more for the DV-980H.

Hi,
Could you compare the Oppo 980 with the new Pionner DV-600?
Thanks.
post #135 of 6353
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Don't have the DV-600 to compare it to unfortunately.
post #136 of 6353
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by dobieck1 View Post

No difference between the 970 and 981 or 970 and 980? You have both listed and its a tad confusing...

Sorry, fingers are still not used to typing "DV-980H". There should be no perceived loss of quality with the DV-980H compared to the DV-970HD. There may be improvement, but I am not payed to hear said improvement.
post #137 of 6353
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Originally Posted by Neuromancer View Post

Sorry, fingers are still not used to typing "DV-980H". There should be perceived oss of quality with the DV-980H compared to the DV-970HD. There may be improvement, but I am not payed to hear said improvement.

I assume you meant NO perceived loss.

I guess I well let my ears decide...
post #138 of 6353
Thread Starter 
Yes, no perceived loss.
post #139 of 6353
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Originally Posted by Neuromancer View Post

They [jpegs] load faster on the DV-980H.

Additionally, the DV-980H can do HD-JPEG, while the DV-970HD will do a downconversion to 640x480 then upconversion to your output resolution

So is it fast enough to be usable as a slide show or to move through them?

Or is "connect a laptop" still the winner?
post #140 of 6353
Thread Starter 
Connect a laptop is still the winner. You are still very restricted by the amount of memory the unit has available for buffering. A laptop is instant.
post #141 of 6353
I have a 130" screen and a 7.1 setup for my sound. Sound is REALLY important to me. I usually rent netflix movies (some scratches). I can run HDMI and component. I have a projector that isnt true HD but is HD compatible. Which OPPO projector for me? I got excited when I saw the 7.1 but I dont mind paying extra if it will pay off for me.
post #142 of 6353
I have a very tight fitting Mid-Atlantic custom rack shelf front for 971. I am wondering if the 980 has the same shape and design, especially the front plate so it would fit in the custom shelf front? Thanks.
post #143 of 6353
New to Oppo: does the 980H show time remaining?

For example, my current player cycles between time into CD track, time left in CD track, total time left on CD.
post #144 of 6353
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Originally Posted by Kevin C Brown View Post

New to Oppo: does the 980H show time remaining?

For example, my current player cycles between time into CD track, time left in CD track, total time left on CD.

You can choose to show this information on the front panel of the DVD player. You will press the OSD button until you have selected your desired timer mode.
post #145 of 6353
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Originally Posted by hoyty View Post

I have a very tight fitting Mid-Atlantic custom rack shelf front for 971. I am wondering if the 980 has the same shape and design, especially the front plate so it would fit in the custom shelf front? Thanks.

The case is 16 7/8" wide, 10 3/8" deep, and 1 13/16" tall.
post #146 of 6353
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Originally Posted by mrrrkva View Post

I have a 130" screen and a 7.1 setup for my sound. Sound is REALLY important to me. I usually rent netflix movies (some scratches). I can run HDMI and component. I have a projector that isnt true HD but is HD compatible. Which OPPO projector for me? I got excited when I saw the 7.1 but I dont mind paying extra if it will pay off for me.

Sound quality in the 980 is top-notch. You won't be sorry. It also breezes through those scratched-up netflix movies without a hint of a problem.

Gary
post #147 of 6353
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Originally Posted by Neuromancer View Post

I can discern no difference in the audio quality of the DV-970HD and the DV-980H when using the analog outputs or HDMI PCM. I know OPPO spent some time altering the player, such as using different capacitors, resistors, and board layout to improve the audio performance of their DV-980H, but I personally do not hear a difference in tonal quality. Which is, to say, that at least the DV-980H sounds the same (no worse) then the DV-970HD.

I indicated that I found no reason to replace the DV970HD with the the 980H if using the analog 5.1 connections earlier but what I don't know is if pure DSD over HDMI beats PCM over HDMI. Do you have the ability to decode DSD using the HDMI connection? Can you find a preference with either HDMI processing method compared to the analog 5.1 connection? The DV970HD is a very natural sounding audio player for all of the audio formats in my opinion and that the DV-980H can't beat it by much is not a huge disappointment.

Chris
post #148 of 6353
Thread Starter 
I prefer straight DSD as I am allowing the receiver to do all the audio decoding and processing. I am a firm believer in dedicated electronics, and the receiver has been built with the dedicated responsibility of proper audio decoding and amplification.
post #149 of 6353
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Originally Posted by Neuromancer View Post

I prefer straight DSD as I am allowing the receiver to do all the audio decoding and processing. I am a firm believer in dedicated electronics, and the receiver has been built with the dedicated responsibility of proper audio decoding and amplification.

Thanks, I don't have a receiver that can handle that yet. I am going to make an HDMI 1.3a receiver my next purchase as soon as I can figure out what receivers do what when using HDMI. Just because a receiver indicates it has HDMI 1.3a doesn't mean it handles much of the capabilities available with HDMI 1.3a. I vote for all HDMI 1.3a sources and processors to be required to identify that so this old guy can easily figure it out.

Chris
post #150 of 6353
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Originally Posted by Neuromancer View Post

I prefer straight DSD as I am allowing the receiver to do all the audio decoding and processing. I am a firm believer in dedicated electronics, and the receiver has been built with the dedicated responsibility of proper audio decoding and amplification.

Upon further reflection, you really didn't say you could tell any difference, did you?

Chris
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