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Originally Posted by Kal Rubinson View Post

Your inventive use of color makes your post unreadable for many without extra effort. Please use it more sparingly.

I thought the color enhanced readability on the black background that I'm viewing, but I took the color tags out. I hope that makes it a better read... Thanks.
post #4682 of 6369
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Originally Posted by Neuromancer View Post

[snip] Try cleaning your discs or your laser head (compressed air or a lens cleaning CD/DVD) [/snip]

Neuromancer,
I've always been wary of those lens cleaner discs that have the little brushes glued onto them. Something about it just didn't seem right. Do you have specific recommendations for products you've used successfully?

Thanks.
post #4683 of 6369
Personally, I'd say the best way to clean the lens is to take apart the player and do it by hand. This of course is risky and may void the warranty.
There is a newer lens cleaner disc on the market. It is supposed to be for HD players, because of the fact that the lens sits VERY close to the disc, and the "brush type" discs would break the lens. So this new disc has holes bored right into it. So that when the disc spins very fast inside the player, it creates a whirlwind to blow dust/particles off of the lens.
http://www.jr.com/maxell/pe/MAX_BLURAYCLNER
post #4684 of 6369
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Originally Posted by Smarty-pants View Post

Personally, I'd say the best way to clean the lens is to take apart the player and do it by hand. This of course is risky and may void the warranty.
There is a newer lens cleaner disc on the market. It is supposed to be for HD players, because of the fact that the lens sits VERY close to the disc, and the "brush type" discs would break the lens. So this new disc has holes bored right into it. So that when the disc spins very fast inside the player, it creates a whirlwind to blow dust/particles off of the lens.
http://www.jr.com/maxell/pe/MAX_BLURAYCLNER

Thanks for the link, Smarty. Looks like just the kind of thing I was interested in.
post #4685 of 6369
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Originally Posted by bradandbree View Post

Thanks for the link, Smarty. Looks like just the kind of thing I was interested in.


Dont use compressed air on the laser. It should be held together by springs (if it is similar to other dvd readers I've seen). And springs warp especially if you use compressed air, leading to disallignment of the laser.
post #4686 of 6369
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Originally Posted by callous View Post

Dont use compressed air on the laser. It should be held together by springs (if it is similar to other dvd readers I've seen). And springs warp especially if you use compressed air, leading to disallignment of the laser.

Agreed. I don't think there's a way in the world I'd point one of those computer keyboard cleaner cans of compressed air inside my DVD player.

But the link that Smarty-pants provided to that Maxell product appears to take advantage of air currents produced by the spinning of the disc itself. Looks about as unintrusive as anything I've seen yet.

If anyone here purchases and tries this product, I'd love to hear a report on how it works.
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Hey does the 983h use the exact same dvd reader (brand and model) as the 980h? hwo about the 981?
post #4688 of 6369
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Originally Posted by bradandbree View Post

Agreed. I don't think there's a way in the world I'd point one of those computer keyboard cleaner cans of compressed air inside my DVD player.

But the link that Smarty-pants provided to that Maxell product appears to take advantage of air currents produced by the spinning of the disc itself. Looks about as unintrusive as anything I've seen yet.

If anyone here purchases and tries this product, I'd love to hear a report on how it works.


I *KILLED* a dvd burner buy using compressed air on the laser assembly. It caused the burns to go all wacko sometimes working sometimes not, but quality went from 97% to 60% as per DVD speed. And it no longer reads cds properly. After that episode, I wised up a bit.
post #4689 of 6369
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Originally Posted by callous View Post

Hey does the 983h use the exact same dvd reader (brand and model) as the 980h? hwo about the 981?

I'm not sure about the 983H and 980H, but I know that the 981H uses a different drive than both the 980H and 983H.
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Hey does the 983h use the exact same dvd reader (brand and model) as the 980h? hwo about the 981?

983H uses a Sony loader. The DV-980H and DV-981HD use a Sanyo loader.
post #4691 of 6369
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Originally Posted by Neuromancer View Post

983H uses a Sony loader. The DV-980H and DV-981HD use a Sanyo loader.

Sanyo? (980 owner)
post #4692 of 6369
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Originally Posted by PeterTHX View Post

Sanyo? (980 owner)

So what then?... your 980 is a POS now?
Mine has been going strong since release day.
post #4693 of 6369
I mainly use this player as a music server / transport in a purist 2 channel system. I connect it to my system via the player's PCM output. For this reason, my concern with which audio options the player passes through PCM Out are probably greater than those who have their player digitally connected to an outboard processor / receiver (which offer their own audio processing.)

Having spent a little more time with my new 980H I've discovered that, in addition to the Channel Trim option, the Front Speaker Size option is not output through PCM Out either. If this feature was turned on, it would be useful for adding a sub-woofer using the player's internal cross-over to send a high passed signal out to the external DAC. The sub-woofer could then be connected to the player's analog Sub Out jack creating a 2.1 system.

My Cambridge Audio player (which reportedly uses the same chip set) has all the audio options available through its PCM Out and it makes for a very flexible player. Unfortunately my Cambridge doesn't offer the USB input which I find so useful on the 980H.

It seems logical to me that the more features the 980H could offer, the more attractive the player would become to potential buyers... especially when the features are already built into the player and just need to be turned on via a firmware upgrade.

Hopefully if further firmware is released for the 980H, it will turn on these audio options. Please, oh-please.
post #4694 of 6369
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Originally Posted by Smarty-pants View Post

So what then?... your 980 is a POS now?
Mine has been going strong since release day.

Well, I'll seem to have issues where I have to eject the disc because it got stuck on "load".

Or it will freeze up if I try to frame backwards too fast (I can still frame foward at any speed, but backward is a crapshoot).

Sanyo isn't exactly known for their quality.
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Originally Posted by PeterTHX View Post

Sanyo? (980 owner)

The Sanyo loader has been used since the OPDV971H. Its compatibility with scratched or just plain bad media is amazing. The Sony (DV-983), on the other hand, has had some teething issues.
post #4696 of 6369
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Originally Posted by PeterTHX View Post

Well, I'll seem to have issues where I have to eject the disc because it got stuck on "load".

Than can also be a decoding issue. I have seen the same issue occur on the DV-983H.

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Or it will freeze up if I try to frame backwards too fast (I can still frame foward at any speed, but backward is a crapshoot).

This happens on the DV-983H as well. This is in part a laser tracking issue (working backwards from its original design) and the decoder needing to keep everything working properly (laser alignment, decoding, etc).
post #4697 of 6369
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Originally Posted by Smarty-pants View Post

So what then?... your 980 is a POS now?
Mine has been going strong since release day.


Well, out of 2 reader units there were replaced, both were deemed defective.. That's why i was asking.

2/3 is fairly bad i would say, with the 3rd one still new and untested, and my warranty will run out in less than half a year. When it does run out, i think the reader will die on me again.
post #4698 of 6369
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Originally Posted by Neuromancer View Post

983H uses a Sony loader. The DV-980H and DV-981HD use a Sanyo loader.

Is this the reason why 983H doesnt have seamless layer changes??? Due to the new loader from sonyh instead of sanyo. Quite a hell of a coincidence dont u think
post #4699 of 6369
Thread Starter 
Yes.
post #4700 of 6369
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Originally Posted by callous View Post

When it does run out, i think the reader will die on me again.

Oh, I don't think so. I have the OPPO 971, 970, 980, and 981, all with the Sanyo loaders. I've had all of them since initial release (sometimes multiple units of each model) and all of them have been flogged with exhaustive beta testing and continuous daily use since then. I've never had a single problem with their loaders.

Gary
post #4701 of 6369
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Originally Posted by Neuromancer View Post

This can be a power handling issue. Try disconnecting the player from the power source for about 24 hours, press the Power button on the front panel, and try to use the player again.

Try cleaning your discs or your laser head (compressed air or a lens cleaning CD/DVD).

Try updating the firmware to ensure that it is not a software error.



One Year Parts and Labor warranty. If you have problems within the first year of ownership, OPPO will pay all repair fees, including shipping.

Thanks. I did a power cycle of the player by unplugging it from the surge protector and the player itself. Then I replugged everything in after a few minutes, and everything works well.
post #4702 of 6369
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Originally Posted by Neuromancer View Post

Yes.

So why did they change it to sony if it affected layer changes?
post #4703 of 6369
Thread Starter 
The Sony has some increased media compatibility (DVD-R DL, for example) and it gives OPPO experience with another loader. This experience will help them with their Blu-Ray player, as it will require a brand new loader assembly as well.
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Is it possible to exchange loaders of dif brands in the machines?
post #4705 of 6369
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Originally Posted by Neuromancer View Post

The Sony has some increased media compatibility (DVD-R DL, for example) and it gives OPPO experience with another loader. This experience will help them with their Blu-Ray player, as it will require a brand new loader assembly as well.

Now that you have given us .001% of all Oppo Blu info... SPILL THE BEANS MAN! Throw us a bone already!
post #4706 of 6369
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by callous View Post

Is it possible to exchange loaders of dif brands in the machines?

No, the player has been designed explicitly for the loaders which are inside of the player.

You will have to go with an entirely different machine if you want to utilize a different loader.
post #4707 of 6369
I noticed that if the 980H is turned on and there's a DVD in it, the player's laser will be continually on even if it's a)paused, b)paused + screensaver, c)stopped once, d)stopped twice (see menu). Of course this also means the dvd reader's motor is turned on to spin.

I know this because by placing your ear beside the dvd reader you can hear the movement of the laser pickup.

How long is the expected life of the dvd reader before the laser dies on you for the 980H, or before the motor dies?
post #4708 of 6369
I have had my 980 since the first day of release. It has been the main player in my living room, where my kids watch dvds on it almost everyday. It has been used A LOT. It is left on all the time including overnight plenty of times too when we forget to shut it off. So I guess the expected life is a LONG TIME.
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Originally Posted by Smarty-pants View Post

I have had my 980 since the first day of release. It has been the main player in my living room, where my kids watch dvds on it almost everyday. It has been used A LOT. It is left on all the time including overnight plenty of times too when we forget to shut it off. So I guess the expected life is a LONG TIME.


So how long has the 980h been released?
post #4710 of 6369
Thread Starter 
The release was July 19, assuming that the Original Official Firmware release is accurate to the shipping date.
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