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post #5911 of 6369
It's the design of the 705... improper HDMI grounding. I had to upgrade to the 805 to fix the buzzing issue I had with my 705.
post #5912 of 6369
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Originally Posted by jvgillow View Post

It's the design of the 705... improper HDMI grounding. I had to upgrade to the 805 to fix the buzzing issue I had with my 705.

I agree. I tore everything apart. Unplugged every coax cable in the apartment, unplugged everything from the wall and everything from the receiver except speakers (no sub) and Oppo and still had the problem. I'm going to call Onkyo on Monday. I'm tired of dealing with this and don't want to ship it to a regional service center. Thanks everyone for the advice.
post #5913 of 6369
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Originally Posted by scionfriar View Post

I agree. I tore everything apart. Unplugged every coax cable in the apartment, unplugged everything from the wall and everything from the receiver except speakers (no sub) and Oppo and still had the problem. I'm going to call Onkyo on Monday. I'm tired of dealing with this and don't want to ship it to a regional service center. Thanks everyone for the advice.

This may not be practical, but it would be good if you could try the Oppo in another receiver. That way you would know if it's the Oppo or your receiver.
post #5914 of 6369
I'm having no trouble at all with my Onkyo 705. But, there is a caveat, I'm using the DVDO Edge for all of my processing (for video) and the only HDMI to the Onkyo is Audio HDMI from the Edge.
post #5915 of 6369
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Originally Posted by Neuromancer View Post

Disconnect everything from the unit. Turn the player upside down. Look at the front of the unit and you will see an opening.

Inside of the opening will be a white tab. Slide the white tab all the way to the left. The tray should become disengaged.

Turn the player right-side up. Pull the tray all the way out then give it a quick tug.

Plug in the power. Press Power.

Does the tray recall? If you press Eject, does the tray eject?

I experienced the same no-eject problem with my Oppo DV-980H. By following the above procedure, it was fixed. I registered here to make sure I said "thank you" for the assistance!
post #5916 of 6369
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Originally Posted by domeboys View Post

I experienced the same no-eject problem with my Oppo DV-980H. By following the above procedure, it was fixed. I registered here to make sure I said "thank you" for the assistance!

Awesome to see you are back in business.

Neuromancer is one of our go_to guru' for everything OPPO. His assistance on AVS has been invaluable.
Thank goodness everyone doesn't stop to make a special post just to thank him for helping, or the OPPO threads would be clogged with thank you posts.
post #5917 of 6369
I remember reading whereby some owners of the 980 experience the player cutting off the very beginning of an audio disc. I also have that problem.
Any fixes for that yet? Would appreciate the help.
post #5918 of 6369
The first second of an audio CD being cut off only occurs if you're using digital out (HDMI or S/PDIF). This is not an issue with the Oppo rather than with the receiver. If you turn on the receiver it has no idea which signal is going to be input. In order to detect the appropriate signal (PCM in this case), the signal processors in the receiver need a certain amount of time to determine the input (around 1 seconds in this case). This results in the 1st second being cut off.

There is an easy workaround. Turn on the receiver and put it on mute. Play the CD until the receiver's display shows the input signal correctly. Again, this is PCM. Now stop the CD and reset it (press the stop key twice). Unmute the receiver, press play, and you can enjoy the entire CD.
post #5919 of 6369
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Originally Posted by simpucker View Post

The first second of an audio CD being cut off only occurs if you're using digital out (HDMI or S/PDIF). This is not an issue with the Oppo rather than with the receiver. If you turn on the receiver it has no idea which signal is going to be input. In order to detect the appropriate signal (PCM in this case), the signal processors in the receiver need a certain amount of time to determine the input (around 1 seconds in this case). This results in the 1st second being cut off.

There is an easy workaround. Turn on the receiver and put it on mute. Play the CD until the receiver's display shows the input signal correctly. Again, this is PCM. Now stop the CD and reset it (press the stop key twice). Unmute the receiver, press play, and you can enjoy the entire CD.

I am using the Oppo mainly as a Cd player. The audio is just 2 channel using the RCA outputs into a stereo preamp. I do have an HDMI cable outputing from the Oppo but just to the TV (to keep the amount of cables down).
I will remove the HDMI and use Component cables and see if that works.
post #5920 of 6369
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Originally Posted by simpucker View Post

The first second of an audio CD being cut off only occurs if you're using digital out (HDMI or S/PDIF).

This is correct


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Originally Posted by simpucker View Post

This is not an issue with the Oppo rather than with the receiver. If you turn on the receiver it has no idea which signal is going to be input.

If this is correct, how come I don't get the first second or so of audio cutoff when I play CD's on my other HDMI connected components?

Cheers
blairy
post #5921 of 6369
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Originally Posted by blairy View Post

This is correct




If this is correct, how come I don't get the first second or so of audio cutoff when I play CD's on my other HDMI connected components?

Cheers
blairy

Unplugged the HDMI and only used analog RCA outputs. Still cuts off 1 second of the beginning. Put in "I Saw her Standing There" from the reissues and it begins in the middle of "One" from "1,2,3,4."
post #5922 of 6369
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Originally Posted by dudley07726 View Post

Unplugged the HDMI and only used analog RCA outputs. Still cuts off 1 second of the beginning. Put in "I Saw her Standing There" from the reissues and it begins in the middle of "One" from "1,2,3,4."

Try turning off auto-play.
post #5923 of 6369
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Originally Posted by rdgrimes View Post

Try turning off auto-play.

Turned autoplay to off but the cd still starts on its own. I don't know if its because the disc is also an enhanced cd with a video on it.
The cd starts fine on my cd player in my main system. Only on this oppo does it miss the first second of sound. I guess its going back to Oppo for repair.
post #5924 of 6369
Thread Starter 
Auto-Play does not affect CD/DVD-Video/DVD-Audio in the sense of having the disc not start right away. However, we have seen in the BDP-83 errors associated to having Auto-Play enabled, which is why he was having you disable it to see if it affected the truncation error.
post #5925 of 6369
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Originally Posted by Neuromancer View Post

Auto-Play does not affect CD/DVD-Video/DVD-Audio in the sense of having the disc not start right away. However, we have seen in the BDP-83 errors associated to having Auto-Play enabled, which is why he was having you disable it to see if it affected the truncation error.

I thought the one second delay in audio was a known bug in the 980. I remember the same issues with SACDs but I thought it was fixed with the latest official non beta firmware update.

Is that not the case?
post #5926 of 6369
Rep at Oppo said it will have to be a hardware fix and not a program fix.
post #5927 of 6369
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Mitch57 View Post

I thought the one second delay in audio was a known bug in the 980.

We are talking CD exclusively. With CD, the digital interfaces will always have a half note or more truncations.

For the analog outputs, when not having HDMI connected, there should no longer be truncations as this was altered through a hardware modification a year into the products life. All units which are a year or less old should not have truncations with CD when using analog audio only.
post #5928 of 6369
Hey, guys

I didn't post this over in the 'Blu-ray' forum, because I knew what kind of responses I'd get. Apparently once you go blu, there's nothing left to do. I'm this close to jumping on the blu-ray bandwagon and buying a Panasonic blu-ray player, but freezing issues and constant firmware upgrades kinda scare me. I'm not into streaming anything, BD Live, etc. I just want to be able to get the most out of my SD DVD's.

Am I crazy for wanting to invest in the 980 when I can get the 60K for only slightly more? Or should I just bite the bullet and get the 60K, even if it's primarily for playing SD DVD's, but knowing I can always rent/buy the occasional blu-ray if I want. Does anyone here have any experience with both players, and can vouch for SD playback comparisons. Part of me just wants to own an Oppo
post #5929 of 6369
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Originally Posted by Warcam View Post

Hey, guys

I didn't post this over in the 'Blu-ray' forum, because I knew what kind of responses I'd get. Apparently once you go blu, there's nothing left to do. I'm this close to jumping on the blu-ray bandwagon and buying a Panasonic blu-ray player, but freezing issues and constant firmware upgrades kinda scare me. I'm not into streaming anything, BD Live, etc. I just want to be able to get the most out of my SD DVD's.

Am I crazy for wanting to invest in the 980 when I can get the 60K for only slightly more? Or should I just bite the bullet and get the 60K, even if it's primarily for playing SD DVD's, but knowing I can always rent/buy the occasional blu-ray if I want. Does anyone here have any experience with both players, and can vouch for SD playback comparisons. Part of me just wants to own an Oppo



I had a similar situation... and currently own the BD60's predecessor (BD35) and an Oppo 980. I owned the BD35 first, then added the 980 for a few reasons (in order of importance to me):
  • SACD/DVD-A playback
  • My AVR has a Reon HQV scaler and wanted it to do the DVD upscaling. I CAN just set the BD35 to 480i output, but its a PITA to change output resolutions when switching between DVD vs Blu-ray.
  • I wanted independent SD and HD source paths for calibration purposes.
  • I wanted to see what the Oppo hoopla was all about.
So... how did it work out: Somewhat disappointingly. The SACD and DVD-A aspects of the 980 are great (although it likes to belt out blasts of digital noise occasionally when playing SACDs). After that, its been more or less downhill.

I have essentially the same problem switching between SACD and DVD in the Oppo as I did switching between BD and DVD in the BD-35... I cannot just leave the 980 output resolution set at 480i because SACD requires the output resolution to be set higher. Its easier than the menu driven switch in the BD35 due to the "HDMI" button, but still a bit of a PITA. This is not a defect... just an "I wish it were different" thing. Perhaps if the Oppo supported discrete IR commands for resolution instead of just the wrap-around it would be easier to program for different uses. Or allow different default HDMI resolutions for DVD vs. SACD.

More importantly, I have been greatly disappointed with the PQ of the Oppo. It's generally noisy looking and suffers from terrible color errors, having a severe deficiency of blue in the HDMI output, giving everything a ghastly yellowish cast. This can be calibrated out, but this severe an issue should just not be from a "premium" brand. DVD playback is equal or better in the BD35, and vastly superior in the Denon 758 I also have. If the Denon could do SACD over HDMI it would have replaced the Oppo a while ago.

I suspect that I may just have a bad unit, because I have not seen any of these PQ issues posted anywhere else. I'm not knocking Oppo, but based on my experience so far I would not repeat the purchase, since I was expecting more from the 980.
post #5930 of 6369
That is unusual to hear that about an Oppo player, based on everything I've read in these threads and elsewhere. I just came back from West Why where I ended up getting the 60K for even less than the Oppo because of some other purchases I made
I'm curious to hear if anyone else has any similar experiences with the Oppo 980 vs. blu-ray, but for this price difference, I'd probably be crazy at this point to pay MORE for just an upconverter
post #5931 of 6369
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Originally Posted by Warcam View Post

That is unusual to hear that about an Oppo player, based on everything I've read in these threads and elsewhere. I just came back from West Why where I ended up getting the 60K for even less than the Oppo because of some other purchases I made
I'm curious to hear if anyone else has any similar experiences with the Oppo 980 vs. blu-ray, but for this price difference, I'd probably be crazy at this point to pay MORE for just an upconverter

Good luck with the 60. My 35 has been completely trouble and glitch free. Also, in the case of the 980, it does not have a "premium" scaler like other Oppos have had... it's not the ultimate upconverting player and never was intended to be. That's one of the reasons I was interested in it because I already had a premium scaler in my AVR. The scaler in the Panny isn't a premium unit either, but it does do a decent job.
post #5932 of 6369
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Originally Posted by jcalabria View Post

More importantly, I have been greatly disappointed with the PQ of the Oppo. It's generally noisy looking and suffers from terrible color errors, having a severe deficiency of blue in the HDMI output, giving everything a ghastly yellowish cast. This can be calibrated out, but this severe an issue should just not be from a "premium" brand. DVD playback is equal or better in the BD35, and vastly superior in the Denon 758 I also have. If the Denon could do SACD over HDMI it would have replaced the Oppo a while ago.

I suspect that I may just have a bad unit, because I have not seen any of these PQ issues posted anywhere else. I'm not knocking Oppo, but based on my experience so far I would not repeat the purchase, since I was expecting more from the 980.

Good grief, man, this is completely abnormal! You should definitely call OPPO. If the player is at fault, they will make it right. Any number of things could have happened to your player... a solder joint may have cracked due to temperature extremes during shipping... who knows? It may not be their fault at all.

Don't just sit on a bad unit and let it spoil your experience with OPPO. All the while, you are steering people away from OPPO, instead of giving OPPO the opportunity to demonstrate their fantastic customer support.

Gary
post #5933 of 6369
If I have my 980 hooked up to my Yamaha rx-v1800 via hdmi, do I have to worry about the LPCM rate (48, 96, or 192k), or will setting HDMI Audio to "Auto" take care of it?
post #5934 of 6369
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Originally Posted by paligap View Post

If I have my 980 hooked up to my Yamaha rx-v1800 via hdmi, do I have to worry about the LPCM rate (48, 96, or 192k), or will setting HDMI Audio to "Auto" take care of it?

Auto is good.
post #5935 of 6369
Thanks.
post #5936 of 6369
Hello everyone. I bought a 37" Vizio 1080p/60 TV (on sale - very, very cheap). I have a huge SD-DVD collection and I picked up a Vizio Blu-Ray player from Wal-mart along with the TV, but I was less than impressed with the Blu-Ray play back on the four or five BD discs I rented and the DVD Upscaling was terrible. Took it back and now I'm trying out a Pioneer DV-420V-K upscaling DVD player (thought I might forgo Blu-Ray for a year or two). The upscaling is much better than the Blu-Ray player and considering I sit eight feet from the 37" TV I don't think I'll miss too much by passing up Blu-Ray for a while.

While the Pioneer is fine, I just notice and researched the Oppo DV-980H. At this point in time would I need my head examined for investing $169 in an upscaling DVD player? I just want the best IQ possible while upconverting my collection to 1080p. Would I notice any improvement over the Pioneer? And again, its it kind of a waste going for a premium DVD player this late in the game? Thanks
post #5937 of 6369
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Originally Posted by Jeffredo View Post

Hello everyone. I bought a 37" Vizio 1080p/60 TV (on sale - very, very cheap). I have a huge SD-DVD collection and I picked up a Vizio Blu-Ray player from Wal-mart along with the TV, but I was less than impressed with the Blu-Ray play back on the four or five BD discs I rented and the DVD Upscaling was terrible. Took it back and now I'm trying out a Pioneer DV-420V-K upscaling DVD player (thought I might forgo Blu-Ray for a year or two). The upscaling is much better than the Blu-Ray player and considering I sit eight feet from the 37" TV I don't think I'll miss too much by passing up Blu-Ray for a while.

While the Pioneer is fine, I just notice and researched the Oppo DV-980H. At this point in time would I need my head examined for investing $169 in an upscaling DVD player? I just want the best IQ possible while upconverting my collection to 1080p. Would I notice any improvement over the Pioneer? And again, its it kind of a waste going for a premium DVD player this late in the game? Thanks

As likely as not, your real problem is the setup and calibration of the TV. Sitting 8' from a 37" screen should make anything but the really huge differences hard to see. I would start by getting a good calibration disc and get the TV set up right. I'm certain that the results will be immediately visible.

That said, the Oppo 980 will do a great job with a 37" screen.
post #5938 of 6369
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Originally Posted by rdgrimes View Post

As likely as not, your real problem is the setup and calibration of the TV. Sitting 8' from a 37" screen should make anything but the really huge differences hard to see. I would start by getting a good calibration disc and get the TV set up right. I'm certain that the results will be immediately visible.

That said, the Oppo 980 will do a great job with a 37" screen.

I was thinking that as well and have a Spyder3 TV calibrator on the way (should be here Monday). Do you think I should hang on until I get it calibrated before trying the Oppo and sending the Pioneer back to Amazon? Something I forgot to mention - my budget for any player is about $200 tops. So its either a top of the line upscaling DVD or a cheaper Blu-Ray and which would provide the most benefit to my standard DVD collection. Again, the smallish 1080p screen from eight feet away kind of makes me think a Blu-Ray player (even on a well calibrated screen) might not bowl me over that much.
post #5939 of 6369
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Originally Posted by Jeffredo View Post

I was thinking that as well and have a Spyder3 TV calibrator on the way (should be here Monday). Do you think I should hang on until I get it calibrated before trying the Oppo and sending the Pioneer back to Amazon? Something I forgot to mention - my budget for any player is about $200 tops. So its either a top of the line upscaling DVD or a cheaper Blu-Ray and which would provide the most benefit to my standard DVD collection. Again, the smallish 1080p screen from eight feet away kind of makes me think a Blu-Ray player (even on a well calibrated screen) might not bowl me over that much.

A BD player in that price range will not do justice to a large DVD collection. The 980 will. Not to mention being a true universal player.
post #5940 of 6369
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Originally Posted by rdgrimes View Post

A BD player in that price range will not do justice to a large DVD collection. The 980 will. Not to mention being a true universal player.

That's what I was thinking (and hoping for confirmation of). I figure a top drawer DVD player would make more sense than a cheap BD unit. There seems to be so many issues still with firmware upgrades, incompatibilities, freezing, etc... with Blu-Ray and the vast majorities of titles I'll be renting from either Netflix or Blockbuster will be SD DVD for the foreseeable future. I tend to get older, foreign and indie titles and its going to be a long process to get those all released in Blu-Ray. Not to mention my home library.

I'll box up that Pioneer DVD player and send it back and get my order into OPPO for the DV-980H. Thanks for the little push. I'll be sure to post back with my impressions of it in a couple weeks.
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