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post #6001 of 6353
11/1/09 at 7:12am
but will it be all-region?

I wanted the 980 to replace a dead all-region player. Nice as this possible lower-cost blu-ray might be, if it doesn't do all-region and PAL output, then it doesn't replace the 980.
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post #6002 of 6353
11/2/09 at 8:45am
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Originally Posted by rdgrimes View Post

The 980 is officially discontinued. They are still easily found on ebay, and Oppo may have refurbs around from time to time.

Now finally out-of-stock on Amazon of this morning. Last ones were selling for $269.95. Someone made some money.
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post #6003 of 6353
11/2/09 at 8:59am
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Originally Posted by DavidK44 View Post

but will it be all-region?

I wanted the 980 to replace a dead all-region player. Nice as this possible lower-cost blu-ray might be, if it doesn't do all-region and PAL output, then it doesn't replace the 980.

Just a FYI but the 980 was never marketed by Oppo as a all-region DVD player. That was a well known software trick to make it region free.
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post #6004 of 6353
11/2/09 at 6:22pm
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Just a FYI but the 980 was never marketed by Oppo as a all-region DVD player. That was a well known software trick to make it region free.

And I would have been surprised if they advertised it as such. However, it was one of the selling points for that player. Without that capability, the new player won't be a direct replacement for those of us who need all-region. I'll evaluate all of the features of any player before I buy, and some features will be essential (advertised or not). Of course, if I already have an all-region player, then it becomes a less-essential feature...
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11/2/09 at 6:52pm
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And I would have been surprised if they advertised it as such. However, it was one of the selling points for that player. Without that capability, the new player won't be a direct replacement for those of us who need all-region. I'll evaluate all of the features of any player before I buy, and some features will be essential (advertised or not). Of course, if I already have an all-region player, then it becomes a less-essential feature...

The BDP-83 is region 0 capable. So outside of possible price discussion, that feature is moot.
So in other words, in today's world, almost ANY player can be made region free for the right price.

Understandably, as a stand alone dvd player, if the 980 is something that is good enough quality for you, then the price is (was) very attractive.
However, we are now in the Blu-ray segment of modern advancement, and that technology comes at a greater cost.

Just for the record, I talked with someone at HKFlix today, and he said that they DO have 980s IN STOCK for sale. As far as I know, this is the last place on Earth still selling new units.
I do not know how many they have on hand, so if anyone wants one, you'd better pounce.
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post #6006 of 6353
11/2/09 at 11:02pm
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Originally Posted by Smarty-pants View Post

Just for the record, I talked with someone at HKFlix today, and he said that they DO have 980s IN STOCK for sale. As far as I know, this is the last place on Earth still selling new units.
I do not know how many they have on hand, so if anyone wants one, you'd better pounce.

Great minds think alike. I grabbed one early this morning from HKFlix - very helpful rep there named Michael said it should ship this week. Yup, I think they are about the last Oppo authorized reseller with any new ones left (and they aren't gouging).

Edit: Canceled the order. Gotta stop wasting money on DVD players and get a Blu-Ray next time up. Hopefully the Toshiba XDE-600 will get me by for another six months or so.
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11/3/09 at 12:18am
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Just a FYI but the 980 was never marketed by Oppo as a all-region DVD player. That was a well known software trick to make it region free.

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Originally Posted by DavidK44 View Post

And I would have been surprised if they advertised it as such. However, it was one of the selling points for that player. Without that capability, the new player won't be a direct replacement for those of us who need all-region. I'll evaluate all of the features of any player before I buy, and some features will be essential (advertised or not). Of course, if I already have an all-region player, then it becomes a less-essential feature...

No it was never marketed as such...

Shortly after I got my 980 (about 18 months ago) I reset the player and then had to redo the region free settings, which of course I couldn't remember and didn't know where I'd originally got them from. So of course I emailed Oppo asking them. I got a very polite reply acknowledging that what I wnated to do was possible but they were not in a position to tell me how.

Cheers
blairy
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post #6008 of 6353
11/3/09 at 8:35am
Watched my first std DVD on the oppo 980 this weekend, and I swear, I didn't see one jaggie or artifact from the 1975 movie...

Rich, deep 70's color as well.
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post #6009 of 6353
11/3/09 at 10:30am
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then had to redo the region free settings, which of course I couldn't remember and didn't know where I'd originally got them from.

I assume you found the code but in case you haven't, it's in the 1st post of this thread.
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post #6010 of 6353
11/3/09 at 10:35am
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I assume you found the code but in case you haven't, it's in the 1st post of this thread.

After 18 months, I should hope so.
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post #6011 of 6353
11/3/09 at 11:20pm
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Originally Posted by moxie1617 View Post

I assume you found the code but in case you haven't, it's in the 1st post of this thread.

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After 18 months, I should hope so.

Yeah I found it pretty easily. Thanks anyway.

blairy
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post #6012 of 6353
11/8/09 at 9:14am
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I went to their website earlier today to purchase a DVD player, only to see that they were out of stock.

I emailed them to ask about it, and they replied "The DV-980H is no longer going to be produced or carried. This unit will be replaced by a Blu-ray player in the near future."

As they already produce the BDP-83 blu-ray, I wonder if this means that they're going to release another player, perhaps not as high-end?

Personally, I was looking for a DVD player that could go all-region, as I already have a blu-ray player, and that capability and the superior up-conversion of the DV-980H were the reasons I was going to purchase it. Guess I'll be looking elsewhere....

Should be interesting to see what Oppo does. The are coming out with a higher end version of the 83 (83SE). I wonder if the 83 will become the replacement for the 980 or if they will offer 3 different BD models?

I'm glad I got my 980 ealier this year instead of waiting like I orginally planned. At the time I was using my Pioneer 51 BD player (purchased Aug 08) for both BDs and DVDs. In terms of PQ and AQ, I was happy with the 51, but the slow DVD layer changes on many DVD titles was really getting on my nerves. I thought that this would improve with firmware updates, but up until then it did not (even now it still hasn't improved). I really couldn't afford another good BD player, so I bought the Oppo 980 to handle DVD duties leaving my 51 just for BD duties. This combination has worked well.
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post #6013 of 6353
11/16/09 at 2:47pm
My Oppo plays everything on this DVD wonderfully, except for the last song...the specially encoded DTS 5 channel surround version of "7-bridges road".

The player comes up with "you need a DTS capable" receiver.

I have a HK7200, and played this numerous times with a $50 panny DVD player.

Any thoughts on why this won't play?
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11/17/09 at 12:23am
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Originally Posted by JeffGrimes View Post

My Oppo plays everything on this DVD wonderfully, except for the last song...the specially encoded DTS 5 channel surround version of "7-bridges road".

The player comes up with "you need a DTS capable" receiver.

I have a HK7200, and played this numerous times with a $50 panny DVD player.

Any thoughts on why this won't play?

Works fine for me...DTS via HDMI to my Denon AVR3808.

Presume you haven't changed any settings on HK?

How are you connected to your AVR?

blairy
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post #6015 of 6353
11/17/09 at 8:47am
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Originally Posted by JeffGrimes View Post

My Oppo plays everything on this DVD wonderfully, except for the last song...the specially encoded DTS 5 channel surround version of "7-bridges road".

The player comes up with "you need a DTS capable" receiver.

I have a HK7200, and played this numerous times with a $50 panny DVD player.

Any thoughts on why this won't play?

I have that title (as well as the DTS CD) so I'll give it a try on my 980H and see what happens.

For reference, my 980H is connecting to my Anthem AVM20 (non-hdmi processor) via digital coax.
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post #6016 of 6353
11/18/09 at 2:40pm
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Originally Posted by JeffGrimes View Post

My Oppo plays everything on this DVD wonderfully, except for the last song...the specially encoded DTS 5 channel surround version of "7-bridges road".

The player comes up with "you need a DTS capable" receiver.

I have a HK7200, and played this numerous times with a $50 panny DVD player.

Any thoughts on why this won't play?

Both the DVD and DTS-CD played fine, including the bonus track. Does it allow you to manually select the DTS track?

I just selected the DTS track at the beginning and everything played fine.
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post #6017 of 6353
11/18/09 at 7:48pm
The issue was "resume play".

It jumped to either the menu or a particular song without asking the DTS question at the beginning.

I just stopped the "resume", and went to the question. I selected DTS, and all is well.

I missed that version...awesome mix!

Thanks!
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post #6018 of 6353
11/19/09 at 6:29am
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Originally Posted by JeffGrimes View Post

The issue was "resume play".

It jumped to either the menu or a particular song without asking the DTS question at the beginning.

I just stopped the "resume", and went to the question. I selected DTS, and all is well.

I missed that version...awesome mix!

Thanks!

I see you discovered the issue before I got to post again. Further testing on this title revealed that you must select the DTS option when you first load the disc. If the resume option comes up, cancel it so you can get to the screen that allows you to choose DTS or PCM. I also found it interesting that while the disc is playing you cannot use the Audio button to change soundtracks.

Glad to see you found the solution and it wasn't a problem with your 980H. And you are right, this is an awsome DVD! The only thing that would have made it better is if it was recorded in HD and available on Blu ray.

The DTS-CD is great also if you just want to enjoy the music without firing up the video system.
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post #6019 of 6353
12/17/09 at 5:19pm
I got an Oppo DV980-H about a year and a half ago and was very disappointed. I had been using my old Xbox to play DVDs and was tired of badly encoded DVDs (usually TV shows) causing image corruption. All the Oppo reviews seemed to think the Oppos would play anything perfectly no matter how bad the encoding. Wrong! It can't play any burned DVDs I've tried, and still has artifacts in some old TV shows (Avatar: The Last Airbender is a good example). It would be fine if nothing could play this stuff right, but I bought a PS3 just to play Blu-Ray and ended up using it as my DVD player because it plays everything perfectly. Even the old Xbox plays burned DVDs, at least! I got one of those USB infrared remotes for PS3 and the Oppo has been gathering dust ever since.

I should have posted this a year ago, it's probably too late now for a product that's obsolete. But oh well, maybe it will help someone who is trying to buy used. I also can't comment on any of Oppo's other products, for all I know they're really great. But don't waste your time on this one!
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post #6020 of 6353
12/17/09 at 5:47pm
Your expectations sound as if they were WAY too high.
With other players at the time costing 5-10 times more than the 980, they did do a better job, but the 980 could hold it's own with most material, and it plays SACD and DVDA too. It was very competent at it's price point.

I have never had a problem playing burned dvds or cds on the 980. You just need competent software and media.

At the time, the PS3 was just as good or better as you say, but it also cost double or more what the 980 cost, and it also can't play dvda/sacd discs.

Subsequent players released after the 980, most notably the DV-983H and now the newer BDP-83 Blu-ray player both handled scaling and deinterlacing of dvds much better than the 980. Once again, they also cost a lot more.
See the trend here? As the saying goes, you get what you pay for.
In the scase of the 980, you actually got quite a bit for your money.
With something like the BDP-83, you get even more.
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post #6021 of 6353
12/18/09 at 7:52am
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...But don't waste your time on this one!

As a lifetime member of the Oppo Fan Club, I really can't let this comment slide by. While there may be some better players out there, my 970s and 980 replaced a Pioneer "universal" player and the Oppos totally performed better in all aspects. These players are truly bargains for what they do, but that point is moot at this time since they are no longer available. I would not hesitate to buy one used though if I needed any additional quality DVD players.
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12/18/09 at 9:09am
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As a lifetime member of the Oppo Fan Club, I really can't let this comment slide by. While there may be some better players out there, my 970s and 980 replaced a Pioneer "universal" player and the Oppos totally performed better in all aspects. These players are truly bargains for what they do, but that point is moot at this time since they are no longer available. I would not hesitate to buy one used though if I needed any additional quality DVD players.

^^^+1
My Oppo has flawlessly played every disc of any kind I ever put in it. Maybe there was an issue with the connection to the monitor, or maybe poor PC-burned discs.
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12/18/09 at 9:10am
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I got an Oppo DV980-H about a year and a half ago and was very disappointed. I had been using my old Xbox to play DVDs and was tired of badly encoded DVDs (usually TV shows) causing image corruption. All the Oppo reviews seemed to think the Oppos would play anything perfectly no matter how bad the encoding. Wrong! It can't play any burned DVDs I've tried, and still has artifacts in some old TV shows (Avatar: The Last Airbender is a good example). It would be fine if nothing could play this stuff right, but I bought a PS3 just to play Blu-Ray and ended up using it as my DVD player because it plays everything perfectly. Even the old Xbox plays burned DVDs, at least! I got one of those USB infrared remotes for PS3 and the Oppo has been gathering dust ever since.

I should have posted this a year ago, it's probably too late now for a product that's obsolete. But oh well, maybe it will help someone who is trying to buy used. I also can't comment on any of Oppo's other products, for all I know they're really great. But don't waste your time on this one!


Interested in selling it, instead of letting it collect more dust?
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12/18/09 at 9:22am
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Interested in selling it, instead of letting it collect more dust?

Yup, they are still bringing higher than retail prices on eBay, in used condition.
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12/19/09 at 7:50am
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Originally Posted by DavidK44 View Post

I went to their website earlier today to purchase a DVD player, only to see that they were out of stock.

I emailed them to ask about it, and they replied "The DV-980H is no longer going to be produced or carried. This unit will be replaced by a Blu-ray player in the near future."

As they already produce the BDP-83 blu-ray, I wonder if this means that they're going to release another player, perhaps not as high-end?

Personally, I was looking for a DVD player that could go all-region, as I already have a blu-ray player, and that capability and the superior up-conversion of the DV-980H were the reasons I was going to purchase it. Guess I'll be looking elsewhere....

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Originally Posted by Saturn94 View Post

Should be interesting to see what Oppo does. The are coming out with a higher end version of the 83 (83SE). I wonder if the 83 will become the replacement for the 980 or if they will offer 3 different BD models?

I'm glad I got my 980 ealier this year instead of waiting like I orginally planned. At the time I was using my Pioneer 51 BD player (purchased Aug 08) for both BDs and DVDs. In terms of PQ and AQ, I was happy with the 51, but the slow DVD layer changes on many DVD titles was really getting on my nerves. I thought that this would improve with firmware updates, but up until then it did not (even now it still hasn't improved). I really couldn't afford another good BD player, so I bought the Oppo 980 to handle DVD duties leaving my 51 just for BD duties. This combination has worked well.

I recently received an e-mail from Oppo saying that they are working on a new BD player that will essentially be a 980H with BD capability. No price or details yet.
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12/19/09 at 2:22pm
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I recently received an e-mail from Oppo saying that they are working on a new BD player that will essentially be a 980H with BD capability. No price or details yet.

Uh, that would be the standard BDP-83.
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12/19/09 at 2:30pm
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Uh, that would be the standard BDP-83.

Presumably something cheaper ... the BDP-83 is a bit too pricey for the masses .. particularly with the PS3 in the $250-$300 range. Perhaps they'll drop DVD-A and SACD, which most people don't care about, and release a decent upconverting, Blu-ray player cost competitive with the Sonys and Panasonics of the world.
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12/19/09 at 2:35pm
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Uh, that would be the standard BDP-83.

Uh, not quite. The BDP-83 is a DV-983H with blu-ray capability.
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12/19/09 at 2:36pm
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Presumably something cheaper ... the BDP-83 is a bit too pricey for the masses .. particularly with the PS3 in the $250-$300 range. Perhaps they'll drop DVD-A and SACD, which most people don't care about, and release a decent upconverting, Blu-ray player cost competitive with the Sonys and Panasonics of the world.

I see your point on the pricing but a great percentage of these consumers that are adopting Oppo players do want the high resolution capability.
As is, there are the same percentage that are willing to pay a higher price for a higher quality machine.


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Uh, not quite. The BDP-83 is a DV-983H with blu-ray capability.

You don't say??
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12/19/09 at 3:26pm
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As is, there are the same percentage that are willing to pay a higher price for a higher quality machine.

I'm all for a higher quality machine (faster load times, better config menus, etc.) and would be willing to pay a bit more for it, but I think Oppo will have to do something to compete with the reality of recently $100 - $200 Blu-ray players from the name brands like Sony and Panasonic. I don't think that DVD-A and SACD can be used as justification for the price premium going forward as those mediums are becoming less and less relevant. If Oppo can remain profitable selling primarily to the DVD-A/SACD consumer, good luck to them.
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