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post #931 of 6353
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Originally Posted by CptBlackadder View Post

I assume there is no Chroma Upsampling Error?

You assume correct.
post #932 of 6353
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Originally Posted by Jon Spackman View Post

Anyone have photos of the inside of the 980? How about the 970 while were at it. I am concerned with the mpeg decoder specifically.

Thanks

http://www.prillaman.net/oppo980_review.html
post #933 of 6353
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Originally Posted by SirDracula View Post

Is there a beta firmware available that has this fix? I think I have the same problem with a Denon 3808ci.

Also, does anyone know whether the SACD Norah Jones - Come Away With Me has an LFE channel? How can I find out? My Denon is showing only 3/2/0 but that may be because of the Oppo LFE "bug". I'm asking because even in PCM mode it seems that I'm not getting any bass, it sounds very thin. The CD mode has plenty of bass though. So I'm not sure whether the media is poorly encoded or it's the combination Oppo/Denon.

What's the Oppo "LFE bug"? I did notice that All of my SACDs decoded by my Integra Pre/Pro received as 5.0 when the DSD option is choosen in the Oppo menu. If LPCM used I get 5.1 and although the overall loudness is higher there is no more bass. So I don't think I loose the LFE [if one actually is encoded] but it is strange though. Also my Pre/Pro says the DSD is 44.1khz sampling, which actually the same as CD. This is the input on the Integra so I see the incoming signal before decoding. Any explanation?
post #934 of 6353
late to the party....

With all this format war b.s. I think I'll just stay with DVD till a standard is know. (And by known I mean my Mom knows what to buy; sorry Mom)


Will this play DivX files off a DVD-R that is under 4 gigs?

I what to back-up movies with AC3 at the highest bitrate I can get.

THX, JNT
post #935 of 6353
Got my 980 on Friday. HDMI hookup, 1080p setting looks about twice as sharp as the HDMI/1080p on the previous DV-981HD. Awesome player!!
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Found a another review of the 980H from Mike R of ***************.

Video Test Results

The 980H was tested with 1080i and 1080p output over HDMI to a JVC RS-1 1080p projector on a 100 Carada Brilliant White screen and over component at 480p to a 55 Mitsubishi RPTV. Both displays have been professionally calibrated.

A full range of video adjustments are available, including brightness, contrast, sharpness, color space, saturation, hue and three gamma settings. For testing purposes, all controls were in their default (typically 0 or Off) positions.

The 980H was subjected to my usual barrage of test disk patterns, including those from DVE, Faroudja, HQV and Avia Pro. As with the 970HD, the Mediatek chip provides motion adaptive deinterlacing, so it did well with the Faroudja pendulum and flag-waving tests. The HQV Jaggies tests for directional interpolation and filtering is always a tough task for any DVD player. The 970HD only achieved average results with these tests, but this is where the combined efforts of Oppo and Mediatek on the new chip used in the 980H have made a difference. In particular, the second Jaggies test consists of a cluster of three equally spaced white bars of the same thickness, moving up and down between a 5-degree and 35-degree angle. With a quality deinterlacing solution, the bars remain smooth as they move. The 970HD had some rough edges with this test, but with the 980H, all three bars remain fairly smooth. This translates to fewer artifacts in fast motion scenes. As expected from previous Oppos, the 980H had no problem with the Avia Pro layer change test, as was expected since fast layer changes are an advantage of the Mediatek chip. The 980H also passes below black over both HDMI and component.

There was no evidence of any Y/C delay problems and no ringing or other sharpness issues at the default player settings. PAL to NTSC conversion also appears to be improved with the 980H. If you watch a lot of PAL disks, I'd still recommend the 981HD, but for the occasional viewing, the 980H does very well.

All in all, the test performance of the 980H is greatly improved from the 970HD. I would not hesitate to recommend to those with large screens (60+), using DLPs or other displays that might be subject to the macroblock enhancement of the 981HD.
post #937 of 6353
After reading the very helpful discussion and comments on this board, I purchased the 980H directly from Oppo. My receiver does not have HDMI, so I have an HDMI cable sending video to my Sharp LCD and I have digital audio cables and a set of analog audio cables going to my Denon 2803 receiver.

I am having a problem with one DVD-Audio disc, the 2004 Silverline Classics recording of the six Bach Brandenburg Concertos performed by Academy of St. James, which plays fine on my Denon 2200 DVD player. When I load the disc in the 980H, and use the Audio Setup menu option to select either the 2-channel or the surround high resolution 96 kHz/24 bit track, and go back and select the Playlist menu option, the player freezes, stuck on the main menu. The 980H front display will give a reading of track 1 and timing 00:00 as if it's almost made it to the start of the track. The player is sufficiently frozen so that pressing Stop on the remote or even the player itself does nothing. I have to eject the disc and start over. Both Dolby tracks play fine, but the advanced resolution tracks will not play on this player. I tried using the Goto button on the remote control, described on p. 33 of the manual, but when I enter Title 1 or Title 2, the player does nothing, while Title 3 and Title 4, the Dolby tracks, play fine as usual. Any ideas?

I have an unrelated question. When I play an SACD, in the upper right-hand of the onscreen display there are horizontal dashes that occasionally have green bars above them. What are these markings? The upper left-hand part of the display shows red bars of increasing height but they don't appear to change position.
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Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by thehun View Post

What's the Oppo "LFE bug"?

Currently, on some receivers, if you select Direct or Pure Direct, you will lose the LFE (subwoofer) of SACD media when the DVD player has been set to DSD.
post #939 of 6353
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Originally Posted by dobieck1 View Post

Will the 980 support WMA lossless at some point?

Likely not, as OPPO has not allowed these type of formats for the past 2 and a half years.
post #940 of 6353
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Originally Posted by gamera87 View Post

I am having a problem with one DVD-Audio disc, the 2004 Silverline Classics recording of the six Bach Brandenburg Concertos performed by Academy of St. James, which plays fine on my Denon 2200 DVD player. When I load the disc in the 980H, and use the Audio Setup menu option to select either the 2-channel or the surround high resolution 96 kHz/24 bit track, and go back and select the Playlist menu option, the player freezes, stuck on the main menu. The 980H front display will give a reading of track 1 and timing 00:00 as if it's almost made it to the start of the track. The player is sufficiently frozen so that pressing Stop on the remote or even the player itself does nothing. I have to eject the disc and start over. Both Dolby tracks play fine, but the advanced resolution tracks will not play on this player. I tried using the Goto button on the remote control, described on p. 33 of the manual, but when I enter Title 1 or Title 2, the player does nothing, while Title 3 and Title 4, the Dolby tracks, play fine as usual. Any ideas?

Try this beta firmware, released last week. Among other things, it addresses playback issues with some Silverline and RCA DVD-Audio discs. I had one problem disc (an RCA title) that has played flawlessly with this new firmware.
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Originally Posted by thehun View Post

What's the Oppo "LFE bug"? I did notice that All of my SACDs decoded by my Integra Pre/Pro received as 5.0 when the DSD option is choosen in the Oppo menu. If LPCM used I get 5.1 and although the overall loudness is higher there is no more bass. So I don't think I loose the LFE [if one actually is encoded] but it is strange though. Also my Pre/Pro says the DSD is 44.1khz sampling, which actually the same as CD. This is the input on the Integra so I see the incoming signal before decoding. Any explanation?

I ran across this posted text in the Integra 9.8 forum (pg 68), it may explain you DSD display question.

"By the way the Oppo support guys explained to me that DSD is carried as 64bits packet at 48Khz on HDMI so do not be disappointed if you see the DTC 9.8 showing 48Khz, your are not “robbed” of any bits. And It does not mean that DTC 9.8 downconvert DSD to 48Khz PCM this would defeat the whole idea."
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Will SACD play fine through the 5.1 analog out?
post #943 of 6353
Thread Starter 
Yes, SACD audio will be fine through multi-channel analog outputs.
post #944 of 6353
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Originally Posted by jntaylor63 View Post


Will this play DivX files off a DVD-R that is under 4 gigs?

I what to back-up movies with AC3 at the highest bitrate I can get.

THX, JNT


I have played 1.2GB files from DVD-R on my DV-970HD just fine, so I'd expect that wouldn't be a problem on the 980H.


Anyone had a chance to put the USB through it's paces with video (Divx or Xvid) from an external HDD? Will it stream without the stuttering and video/audio desync?
post #945 of 6353
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Originally Posted by gonk View Post

Try this beta firmware, released last week. Among other things, it addresses playback issues with some Silverline and RCA DVD-Audio discs. I had one problem disc (an RCA title) that has played flawlessly with this new firmware.

Thank you so much. I am a bit embarrassed, as I had read the entire thread over the last week or two, and so was aware of the beta firmware update, but I guess it hadn't realized that my problematic DVD-A was from one of the affected labels. I updated the firmware using the USB port and the disc plays fine now.
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Originally Posted by NoiseGoth View Post

Anyone had a chance to put the USB through it's paces with video (Divx or Xvid) from an external HDD? Will it stream without the stuttering and video/audio desync?

I did not have any problems using a 120GB HDD formated with FAT16 for DivX/XviD playback.
post #947 of 6353
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Originally Posted by Neuromancer View Post

Currently, on some receivers, if you select Direct or Pure Direct, you will lose the LFE (subwoofer) of SACD media when the DVD player has been set to DSD.

Same things happens with my Integra, any word on the fix?
post #948 of 6353
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Originally Posted by bobloblaw View Post

I ran across this posted text in the Integra 9.8 forum (pg 68), it may explain you DSD display question.

"By the way the Oppo support guys explained to me that DSD is carried as 64bits packet at 48Khz on HDMI so do not be disappointed if you see the DTC 9.8 showing 48Khz, your are not “robbed” of any bits. And It does not mean that DTC 9.8 downconvert DSD to 48Khz PCM this would defeat the whole idea."

Mine says 44.1khz not 48khz. But in any case what DSD decoder are equiped to receive 64bits when DSD is a single bit medium?
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Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by thehun View Post

Same things happens with my Integra, any word on the fix?

Contact OPPO. They have a new BETA which should resolve this issue.
post #950 of 6353
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by thehun View Post

Mine says 44.1khz not 48khz. But in any case what DSD decoder are equiped to receive 64bits when DSD is a single bit medium?

All receivers which are designed for DSD through HDMI will support this, as this is the functionality of the HDMI 1.2a specifications for 1-bit content sources (ie. SACD).
post #951 of 6353
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Originally Posted by Neuromancer View Post

Contact OPPO. They have a new BETA which should resolve this issue.

I tried the beta firmware (dated 8/27) and it seems to fix the issue on my Denon 3808ci.

Now, I only wish that applying a firmware update would not reset my settings to the defaults. It took me a little bit to figure out I need to re-configure the audio settings (downmix 5.1, large speakers, sub on), I was close to reporting that the fix doesn't work.
post #952 of 6353
I tried both the Pioneer and the Sony. Don't get the Sony, it seemed to clip the LFE channel information.

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Originally Posted by TonyS View Post

Well, my replacement 980 arrived yesterday evening. I hooked it up and the wife and I watched an episode of Firefly. Following the episode, I popped in SW Ep 4 and, at the same spot, the "black screen" bug reared its ugly head again! It looks like this is some sort of really bizarre compatibility issue between the 980 and my display. I wonder if it has something to do with my display being 2.5 years old with an older spec HDMI input and the 980 being HDMI 1.2a?!? I'll be contacting Oppo on Monday to request another RMA and be sending back two 980s. So, I guess I'll look into the Sony 77H, the Pioneer DV-400V or maybe an HD DVD player... Thanks to everyone who offered suggestions and tried to troubleshoot for me - it's people like you who make this place great!
post #953 of 6353
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Originally Posted by SirDracula View Post

I tried the beta firmware (dated 8/27) and it seems to fix the issue on my Denon 3808ci.

Now, I only wish that applying a firmware update would not reset my settings to the defaults. It took me a little bit to figure out I need to re-configure the audio settings (downmix 5.1, large speakers, sub on), I was close to reporting that the fix doesn't work.

Not to be a jerk, but it states right in the firmware notes/instructions that it will reset everything to default.
post #954 of 6353
Any advice? I have my DV-980H hooked up to a HL-T6189 and an Onkyo HTR-520. For whatever reason the sound is just fine when viewing TV on a Scientific Atlanta 8300HD. When I watch movies though, the center channel just sounds weak and it is hard to hear voices in quiet scenes. Any thoughts? The receiver is supposed to handle 96kHz so that is what I have the 980H set to, but I'm wondering if setting it to 48kHz would do anything. I'm at work so I can't try...figured I'd try to get some insight here. Thanks in advance.
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Thread Starter 
Are you connected through analog or digital (coaxial or optical)?
post #956 of 6353
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Originally Posted by Smarty-pants View Post

Not to be a jerk, but it states right in the firmware notes/instructions that it will reset everything to default.

Well, software updates most often will keep all your preference settings intact, but I'm not sure how "firmware" works. Could it be configured to be an option with the installation process, or are they distinct areas within the electronics of a player?
post #957 of 6353
Thread Starter 
The firmware is interfaces directly with the hardware. The hardware is completely flashed and replaced when you do a firmware upgrade. For this reason, all user settings are replaced.

Some firmware is updated (ie. some data, not all data, is altered) so your settings remain the same, but this is not the case of the OPPO products.
post #958 of 6353
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Originally Posted by Neuromancer View Post

Are you connected through analog or digital (coaxial or optical)?

Digital (Optical). It's weird...Dolby Digital from my STB sounds fine...and voices are crisp and clear. For movies from the DVD Player though, normal voices, especially with any other type of background noise, become almost inaudible. The speakers are working and receiving signal, and I've even tried jacking up the audio level of the center channel to hear, but it is only somewhat productive. My receiver says it can handle a 96kHz signal but I can't think of anything else that could be the problem. I had a similar problem with my previous DVD player too though, a Panasonic S97, though not quite as bad...also using the 96kHz setting.
post #959 of 6353
Perhaps check the digital output setting of the 980H in its setup menu? If it is not set to Raw but PCM, the receiver will not get center channel when "downmix" is set to 5.1. Set the digital output to Raw and the receiver should handle decoding properly.
post #960 of 6353
It is set to Raw.
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