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post #1951 of 4794
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Originally Posted by Rammitinski View Post

Since it's set up an "account" for me, I would probably have to call and cancel that, too, even if I never activate - wouldn't I?

So you have an account at TiVo.com already? What does it say next to your TiVo under "Current payment plan" ? I would guess that it says "trial" or something like that.

Your subscription -- and the 30 days to cancel for a refund-- doesn't start until you sign up with a plan and enter your credit card information. That allows you to use the TiVo without commitment for 37 days, assuming you use the entire 7-day trial. Of course, most retailers and online vendors have a 30-day (or less) return policy, so that limits the amount of time you have.
post #1952 of 4794
Since you got such a great price at Sears, you might want to send the Tivo HD to Tivo, instead of getting your money back from Sears.
post #1953 of 4794
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Originally Posted by bfdtv View Post

So you have an account at TiVo.com already? What does it say next to your TiVo under "Current payment plan" ? I would guess that it says "trial" or something like that.

Without actually looking, I believe that's what it says.

The account was set up over the phone line with the initial setup download. It says that "to activate, use this account number".
post #1954 of 4794
I've had a TiVo for a number of years, going from a Humax S2 to our current S3 HD. I even went so far as to stump up for the TiVo dekstop software.

Which seems to have stopped working now. Anyway, does anyone here know how to use a web browser to access the tivo? I tried the hint 122 from page 1 but all mine kept doing was asking for user/pwd all the time. I gave it tivo and the key from the my account page.

Also, for any W7 users out there, has you copy stopped transfering, as in it appears to be interrupted every x seconds?

TIA

Seggers
post #1955 of 4794
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Originally Posted by seggers View Post

I've had a TiVo for a number of years, going from a Humax S2 to our current S3 HD. I even went so far as to stump up for the TiVo dekstop software.

Which seems to have stopped working now. Anyway, does anyone here know how to use a web browser to access the tivo? I tried the hint 122 from page 1 but all mine kept doing was asking for user/pwd all the time. I gave it tivo and the key from the my account page.

Just check the option in your web browser so that it remembers the login and password.

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Originally Posted by seggers View Post

Also, for any W7 users out there, has you copy stopped transfering, as in it appears to be interrupted every x seconds?

For the Windows 7 beta, I would suggest you uninstall TiVo Desktop 2.7 and and install TiVo Desktop 2.6.2 instead. Others have reported problems with Tivo Desktop 2.7 Plus under Windows 7. I would expect TiVo to release an updated version for that OS at some point.

If you still have problems with downloads after installing TiVo Desktop 2.6.2, grab TiVoPlaylist; that can also be used to download and queue recordings.

The most advanced program for downloading from the TiVo on Windows is Kmttg. This free program requires a bit more effort to install, and it doesn't look as pretty, but it adds some notable features, including the ability to automatically remove the .TiVo wrapper (leaving the MPG) and remove commercials. If you want, it will even encode into MP4 for an iPod / iPhone / Zune or another device.
post #1956 of 4794
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Originally Posted by seggers View Post

Anyway, does anyone here know how to use a web browser to access the tivo? I tried the hint 122 from page 1 but all mine kept doing was asking for user/pwd all the time. I gave it tivo and the key from the my account page.

Did you check FAQ #127?
To check whether this functionality is enabled on your TiVo, login to Manage My Account @ TiVo.com. Make sure you've named each TiVo and verify the box for "Enable Video Downloads" is checked on all your TiVo DVRs. Once authorized, each TiVo will display its unique DVR name and "a,a,a" for TiVoToGo on the System Information screen (screenshot). If you don't see both, then your DVR is not yet authorized for downloads.

It also mentions firewall / anti-virus. Not familiar with WIN7, yet ;-)
post #1957 of 4794
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Originally Posted by Hyrax View Post

I've not had a lot of experience with other OTA boxes except for a LG LST-4310A, which I finally retired a few weeks ago. My TivoHD has given me a lot less problems than the 4310A, and is a lot easier to use.

I think you probably meant LG 3410A. Mine went into forced retirement in early December, when I lost my TVGOS info from WFXT analog 25. After several frustrating months of tinkering and no fixes, I moved on to Tivo and have never looked back. The only regret I have is that I didn't make the switch sooner. Some things in life are just worth paying for, and for me Tivo is just one of those things.
post #1958 of 4794
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Originally Posted by dhg View Post

I think you probably meant LG 3410A. ...

Right you are! 3410A it was. Great machine for its time, but I just got tired of continual resets and all the games needed to keep the TVGOS data populated. After all that, TivoHD was a sweet relief.

Generally, I'm most pleased with the Tivo. However, Tivo is now starting to get a little pushy with their Ads. I find those things that pop-up when you pause to be a little intrusive.
post #1959 of 4794
There are ways to get rid of them or have them show for a split second. Read through the threads.
post #1960 of 4794
I'm also highly annoyed with the new advertising-during-pause behavior. They've gone too far this time.

I don't recall anything in this thread about this recently added behavior. However I looked at bfdtv's FAQ at the beginning just now and see that there is some info about suppressing it. Unfortunately the solutions either require a Harmony remote, or get rid off the progress bar altogether (including during FF and RW).

Tivo, you need to take this "feature" back out. As it is, now every single time I pause a recording, I am reminded that I am PAYING for a service that annoys me, and I wonder about ditching it for Moxi, MythTV, etc. I'm not saying those are comparable, but reminding me of those services/systems every single time I pause is a bad move ...
post #1961 of 4794
Wow...I hope this thread doesn't become like the whiners in TCF threads about the "ads on pause". I'm so sick of the complaining about this; what is the freakin' big deal? I spend maybe .001% of my time on "pause". When you pause, by definition, you're NOT watching the recording. So, who cares if there's a little pop-up there? Get over it people....and PLEASE don't start posting complaints here and whining about it. Save that for the crybabies on the TCF forums.
post #1962 of 4794
Does it block out any of the picture when paused? If so, I'd say they have a legitimate beef.
post #1963 of 4794
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Originally Posted by Rammitinski View Post

Does it block out any of the picture when paused? If so, I'd say they have a legitimate beef.

it does cover quite a bit of the picture. If you're pausing the show to read something onscreen, it's invasive.
post #1964 of 4794
Hmmmm. That right there might make me want to return it now, as long as it's still not activated. I didn't realize it did that. I do occasionally like to pause something completely to look at it closer. That's just unconscionable if you're actually paying for the service. You can put the ads elsewhere at least.

More and more my Sony's starting to look better and better - as long as it can still get guide info and a clock, that is. I really don't need dual-tuners for my usage. I'm just OTA, anyway.
post #1965 of 4794
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Originally Posted by bierboy View Post

Wow...I hope this thread doesn't become like the whiners in TCF threads about the "ads on pause". I'm so sick of the complaining about this; what is the freakin' big deal? I spend maybe .001% of my time on "pause". When you pause, by definition, you're NOT watching the recording.

Not everyone uses pause in the same way. Most of the time when I use pause, it is not to leave the room, but to see something and/or discuss a scene. It was a distraction that got complaints in my household until I added a pause-clear macro on my Harmony remote to eliminate it. Now, if you only pause to use the bathroom or answer the phone, I can see how it might be a total non-issue.

Before the ad banner on pause, I never thought the TiVo ads were obtrusive like the ads on the Sony and Comcast DVRs. They were relatively small, you could easily ignore them, and they never had any affect on the way you used the DVR to watch TV. That is no longer the case with the new advertisement on pause [with the original TiVo remote], at least for those that use the pause function to regularly check a scene and/or discuss the program.

TiVo may view subscriptions as the alternative to a much higher hardware cost, but many customers will not see it that way. Customers do not understand that their fees pay for part of the hardware cost and all of the software cost, and they will not stand to pay for a "service" with obtrusive advertisements, no matter how cheap the hardware. Even I understand it, and if I were not able to create a pause-clear macro, I would be looking at other comparable solutions if and when they exist (too bad they don't..yet).

Later this week, I'll add a screenshot to the first post showing the ad banners on pause. I meant to do that last week, but there weren't any pause ads on my recordings. [They aren't on every program and you don't see them every day, although I'm guessing they will become more common over time.]
post #1966 of 4794
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Originally Posted by Rammitinski View Post

Hmmmm. That right there might make me want to return it now, as long as it's still not activated. I didn't realize it did that. I do occasionally like to pause something completely to look at it closer. That's just unconscionable if you're actually paying for the service. You can put the ads elsewhere at least.

Pause a program when you get home to see.

Pressing the down arrow hides the pause menu and the ad, so you won't see the banner again on that program. But this resets for every new program. The only way to completely eliminate the pause ads is with a pause-clear macro on your pause button.

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Originally Posted by Rammitinski View Post

More and more my Sony's starting to look better and better - as long as it can still get guide info, that is. I really don't need dual-tuners for my usage, anyways.

The Sony is inferior in so many other ways, however. With the Sony, you take one step forward and ten steps back.

I'm hoping Moxi follows through and addresses their limitations later this year so we'll have a more viable alternative.
post #1967 of 4794
Wow. I didn't remember ever seeing any, so I just checked, and there are no ads on pause. Either live or recorded. Pretty low, waiting 'till someone subscribes, to put them in there.
post #1968 of 4794
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Originally Posted by Rammitinski View Post

Hmmmm. That right there might make me want to return it now, as long as it's still not activated. I didn't realize it did that. I do occasionally like to pause something completely to look at it closer. That's just unconscionable if you're actually paying for the service. You can put the ads elsewhere at least.

More and more my Sony's starting to look better and better - as long as it can still get guide info and a clock, that is. I really don't need dual-tuners for my usage. I'm just OTA, anyway.

don't return it.

There is a code for Tivo you can put in to immediately clear the bar (and now banner as well). SELECT PLAY SELECT PAUSE SELECT

you'll get three dings if you did it correctly, and you'll never see the bar for anything for more than a split second anymore.
post #1969 of 4794
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Originally Posted by bfdtv View Post

The Sony is inferior in so many other ways, however. With the Sony, you take one step forward and ten steps back.

Not really so much, just for my limited needs. About the only thing I notice during my meager usage of the TiVo's DVR and menus is that the Sony is much slower and clunkier.

I only record maybe 3 or 4 shows a week. I'm mostly trying this because:

a.) The Sony getting digital data (and a clock) is still up in the air, no matter what anyone tries to tell you, and

b.) I had to grab it while I could at that price.

Plus, I've always wanted to see what it was all about. Haven't had any trouble with it at all since the other night, so that's a good thing. I do basically like it and want to keep it.
post #1970 of 4794
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Originally Posted by Rammitinski View Post

Wow. I didn't remember ever seeing any, so I just checked, and there are no ads on pause. Either live or recorded. Pretty low, waiting 'till someone subscribes, to put them in there.

They don't wait til someone subscribes. Again, they are not on every program. Without pause-clear, I see them on perhaps 1/3 to 1/4 of my programs. But I'm sure this will only increase with time, unless more people complain.

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Originally Posted by b_scott View Post

There is a code for Tivo you can put in to immediately clear the bar (and now banner as well). SELECT PLAY SELECT PAUSE SELECT

you'll get three dings if you did it correctly, and you'll never see the bar for anything for more than a split second anymore.

Be aware that this also hides the progress bar quickly on FF and REW, too. Many can't stand that.

If you have a universal remote, I think a pause-clear macro (on the pause button) is a superior solution.
post #1971 of 4794
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Originally Posted by bfdtv View Post

If you have a universal remote, I think a pause-clear macro (on the pause button) is a superior solution.

I do have a newer one that I'm currently using. It's made especially for DVR's (might as well - I've got so damned many). But to tell you the truth, I don't even know if it does macros. I'll have to dig out the manual.
post #1972 of 4794
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Originally Posted by bfdtv View Post

They don't wait til someone subscribes. Again, they are not on every program. Without pause-clear, I see them on perhaps 1/3 to 1/4 of my programs. But I'm sure this will only increase with time, unless more people complain.

Be aware that this also hides the progress bar quickly on FF and REW, too. Many can't stand that.

If you have a universal remote, I think a pause-clear macro (on the pause button) is a superior solution.

I know, I said that

I don't mind it, doesn't matter what time it is, if there is a commercial there is a commercial. and yes you can press play to see the time, if you want, at any time.
post #1973 of 4794
Now that I think of it, I do have one problem - since the 11. update I lost the reception of the only analog channel I had programmed in there. Nothing I've done, short of wiping out everything, can get it back.

I remember reading something about analog reception being pretty much ruined by the update. True? (If so, it would suck, because I really want this channel, and if it ever goes digital, it won't be for a long time, and it's going to be so low-powered, and the contour doesn't reach out this way that far, that I'm very likely to not be able to get it. My other tuners don't have a problem with it, although recently it's gotten weaker than usual, perhaps because of the warmer weather and digital interference from another market).
post #1974 of 4794
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Originally Posted by Rammitinski View Post

Now that I think of it, I do have one problem - since the 11. update I lost the reception of the only analog channel I had programmed in there. Nothing I've done, short of wiping out everything, can get it back.

Is the analog channel still listed in your Channel List under Settings -> Channels -> Channels List?

If the channel is not listed, that would mean that Tribune removed the channel from their lineup, believing that it had recently gone off-air. If Tribune removed it, re-running a channel scan under Settings -> Channels -> Channel Scan would re-add it to your lineup, albeit without guide data.

To restore guide data to that channel, you would have to submit a lineup change form to report that Tribune removed that analog station in error. This lineup change would not affect the ability to tune the channel or add it to the guide; it would only affect the availability of guide data on that channel.

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Originally Posted by Rammitinski View Post

I remember reading something about analog reception being pretty much ruined by the update. True? (If so, it would suck, because I really want this channel, and if it ever goes digital, it won't be for a long time

Analog reception was not changed with the update, although reliability with analog channels certainly was. With the 11.x software, the analog tuners will periodically "go out" and are not restored until both tuners are set to digital channels. A reboot will also restore the analog tuners.

This makes the TivoHD completely unreliable as a basic/analog cable solution. This also presents serious problems for those with cable providers that do not yet offer digital simulcast (digital versions of the analog channels).

For some time now, TiVo has said they are working on a fix, but we don't know when that will be available.
post #1975 of 4794
RAMM, I've noticed the pause ads seem to be mostly on popular or mass market shows. E.T. was the first show I noticed it on, now I've seen it on more of the more popular shows I record. I've never seen it on PBS.
I don't like it but I've got pretty quick on the down arrow. I don't care for it in my now playing or my favorites folders but I just try and ignore them. IMO it's much less obtrusive than with TVGOS taking up the whole left side of the screen (when the guide is displayed).
Between the Tivo ads, constant OSD station bugs and regular commercials, watching TV isn't as pleasant as it used to be Well except for the HD part, now I can see the station bugs clear as day
post #1976 of 4794
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Originally Posted by jjeff View Post

I don't like it but I've got pretty quick on the down arrow.

Like you, when I pause a program and the unwanted banners show up above the time indicator, I just press the down arrow and eliminate it. I found to my delight that when I pause the next time the time indicator comes up again but the additional stuff does not. It's not perfect but it's not terrible, either.
post #1977 of 4794
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Originally Posted by jjeff View Post

I don't like it but I've got pretty quick on the down arrow......IMO it's much less obtrusive than with TVGOS taking up the whole left side of the screen (when the guide is displayed).

As long as you can get rid of it while it's still paused, that's not that much of a problem, then. I didn't realize that, from what was said.

As far as the TVGOS ads, I wouldn't consider that the same, as it's only in the guide. There are never any ads at all when the full picture's on the screen (just them @#$%* station bugs).

I was just worried because I'm one of those people that on occasion does pause the picture for observational purposes (although I really do it a lot more on my Panny SD DVR - because it's more designed for that being a DVD recorder, too. You can adjust the "slow" speed).
post #1978 of 4794
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Originally Posted by Rammitinski View Post

Does it block out any of the picture when paused? If so, I'd say they have a legitimate beef.

Of course it does...just like the the progress bar blocks part of the picture.
post #1979 of 4794
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Originally Posted by b_scott View Post

it does cover quite a bit of the picture. If you're pausing the show to read something onscreen, it's invasive.

...and of course, one quick tap of the directional "down" button eliminates all of it so you can read whatever you want. Very easy to get it off the screen.

I simply cannot believe the uproar about this. It is SO EASY to get it off the screen. And, if this nets TiVo additional revenue, then I'm all for it.
post #1980 of 4794
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Originally Posted by bierboy View Post

Of course it does...just like the the progress bar blocks part of the picture.

See above - I didn't realize you could get rid of it. I don't consider it such a major deal, then - although it is kind of ballsy and obnoxious.
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