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post #4201 of 4820
Well this afternoon I am trying the CableCARD and Tuning Adapter route with my Tivo HD...
Hope all goes well and I will post tonight what happens
post #4202 of 4820
Well... The Cable Installer that came has not put a CableCard install for about a year... Oh Billy I said to myself, but I've been pretty educated on the forums So I walked the installer through the install...
So we got the cable card working and the tuning adapter seems to be working... However I'm not getting a good chunk of my HD channels...
I got the Cisco STA 1520, the green light isn't blinking, but I just don't get the channels...
ANY IDEAS???

Also this will be a 9 month experiment, considering Tivo has me locked in for the first year... Not to mention the $250 I bought the HD for in January is pretty much only worth $100 thanks to TIVO selling refurbs for $100 with free shipping. Thanks for SCREWING ME OVER ON THAT ONE!

I don't mind the Samsung HD DVR I got form TWC, so I got an open mind on everything...
So you'll probably be seeing me a lot in this forum!
post #4203 of 4820
OK Got it working after a few TA reboots and TiVo reboots everything is working just fine...
Day 1
post #4204 of 4820
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kelson View Post

Can someone recommend a simple free app to strip the TiVo wrapper off of files that were transferred to a PC.

I use TiVo Desktop plus v2.8 to do all my file transfers to and from my TiVo HD. I want to see if my new Seagate media player will play HD content files recorded on my TiVo HD -- and if it does, I want to make use of it. I know there are transfer programs that will strip the wrapper while doing the transfer, but the files of interest have already been transferred and are sitting on my PC HDD. I just want to strip the wrapper from the HD recording and see if the Seagate will play what's left.

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Originally Posted by keenan View Post

I believe kmttg should be able to do that, just direct it to where the file(s) are and have it decrypt them.

Sorry for the delay in responding. Thank you, it does indeed do the decryption job on already-downloaded TiVo files and it does it very fast. And best of all, my Seagate FreeAgent+ streams the decrypted HD files perfectly.

This latest incarnation of kmttg is really superb. People who avoided the pearl version owe it to themselves to take a look at this one. It is now a simple unified installation that downloads all the tools needed. But best of all, the installation is clean. You unzip the files to a folder and run the .jar file contained within to start the program. It downloads what it needs and puts it into the same folder. I actually did the install while running in my test partition. After the install I put the kmttg folder on a shared volume and booted to my normal working partition. I executed the .jar file and kmttg started right up. I love clean applications -- there are so few.

Functionally, I love it. The interface is clean and simple and the mouse-over info boxes on the options make it simple to use. Since I'm switching to a Seagate FreeAgent+ for DVD and TV episode streaming I believe I'll be kicking TiVo Desktop to the curb. With kmttg, I can download TiVo recordings and send the decrypted file straight to my NAS for the FreeAgent+.
post #4205 of 4820
Yes, it's a pretty sweet program, if I knew how to donate some coin I would.
post #4206 of 4820
Quote:
Originally Posted by keenan View Post

Yes, it's a pretty sweet program, if I knew how to donate some coin I would.

You could probably send a message to Mr. Moye himself (moyekj):

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/member.php?u=40478
post #4207 of 4820
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Originally Posted by Kelson View Post

Sorry for the delay in responding. Thank you, it does indeed do the decryption job on already-downloaded TiVo files and it does it very fast.

If I strip the wrapper from all my .tivo files will I still be able to move them back to the Tivo to watch on my TV?
post #4208 of 4820
Yes, Loki, you can. However, I usually re-encode to MP4 because they load fast enough to watch HD in real time.
post #4209 of 4820
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Originally Posted by lokisince89 View Post

If I strip the wrapper from all my .tivo files will I still be able to move them back to the Tivo to watch on my TV?

Yes, however they just won't have the TiVo specific information such as episode name and description and they won't organize into folders. As Hyrax points out some may choose to recode to MP4 to reduce file size and kmttg has a TiVo HD profile for doing so. However, if you have a slow or vintage PC (mine is 7 yrs old) you could transfer half a dozen .MPG files back to the TiVo in the time it takes to trans-code a single episode.

I've played with my system a bit more and quickly came to the conclusion that any episodes with commercials will be sent back to the TiVo for playing rather than streaming from my Seagate FAT+. Nothing beats the instant 30 sec commercial skip of the TiVo. It was torture having to FF through them on the Seagate.

One of the neat things about kmttg is that it shows you the transfer rate when pulling a file off the TiVo. When I queued a block of recordings to transfer, it was night and the TiVo was just sitting there doing "nothing" -- no scheduled recording and no active viewing. The transfer rate was humming along at a steady 8-8.2 Mbps. Then I remembered a bfdtv tip from the faq post. I turned on the TV and set both the TiVo tuners to channel numbers that didn't exist -- dead air. I got a blue screen and a message that there was no signal, which meant nothing for it to buffer. This freed up the processor to devote more CPU cycles to the transfer process and had the effect of boosting my transfer rate to 13 Mbps -- and this is over a wireless "G" connection. If you are going to do transfers, that's a good tip to remember.
post #4210 of 4820
Wait until you try the Premiere. You will get close to 5X those speeds with KMTTG. I only loaded it a few days ago. I had been using TiVo Desktop for a few years prior. It's nice to have very fast speeds to my PC.
post #4211 of 4820
To all you Video Redo TV Suite users out there. I have been playing with the trial version, mostly to see how good the ad-detection works. I'm very pleased that it works well with the HiDef .TIVO files to cut commercials and write out an .MPG file maintaining the original broadcast resolution and 5.1 audio. I can send that .MPG file to my NAS and stream it with my FAT+. However for archiving, I'm disappointed that it appears it can only author that file as DVD-Video by transcoding the HD to SD and burning onto DVD-R. Useful in itself but not a total solution.

So my question: What software are people using to author and burn those HiDef .MPG files as HD (i.e. AVCHD, or BDMV/AV).

thanks in advance.
post #4212 of 4820
Out of curiosity, anyone ever had their Tivo HD not only mysteriously record something that wasn't scheduled but also not have a trace of said recording show up anywhere?

That may not make much sense, but after I woke up yesterday afternoon (I work nights), I turned on the TiVo and TV and noticed one of the red LED's was illuminated, indicating it was recording something, which I thought was odd because I didn't remember scheduling anything for that time. I looked at the Now Playing screen and it didn't show anything currently recording, which struck me as very odd.

I went to Live TV and it was tuned into Andy Griffith on TV Land, a channel I rarely watch and a show which I've never recorded before, so I'd never created a Wish List or Season Pass for it, but the record symbol on the Info overlay did indicate it was recording. I stopped the recording and the LED light went off. I went back to Now Playing and it still wasn't showing up there. Even though I didn't even get a chance to delete it, I looked at the recording history in the To Do List and the recently deleted folder and it didn't show up in either of those.

It's not like I slept on the remote and somehow accidentally and miraculously got it to record that, especially since my Harmony remote was in its charging cradle. Even if someone was playing a joke on me and set it to record something, how come the program didn't show up on any of the lists or folders?

Not like I figure it's a problem - just wondering if anyone else has had this happen.
post #4213 of 4820
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Originally Posted by kirby34 View Post

Out of curiosity, anyone ever had their Tivo HD not only mysteriously record something that wasn't scheduled but also not have a trace of said recording show up anywhere?

That may not make much sense, but after I woke up yesterday afternoon (I work nights), I turned on the TiVo and TV and noticed one of the red LED's was illuminated, indicating it was recording something, which I thought was odd because I didn't remember scheduling anything for that time. I looked at the Now Playing screen and it didn't show anything currently recording, which struck me as very odd.

I went to Live TV and it was tuned into Andy Griffith on TV Land, a channel I rarely watch and a show which I've never recorded before, so I'd never created a Wish List or Season Pass for it, but the record symbol on the Info overlay did indicate it was recording. I stopped the recording and the LED light went off. I went back to Now Playing and it still wasn't showing up there. Even though I didn't even get a chance to delete it, I looked at the recording history in the To Do List and the recently deleted folder and it didn't show up in either of those.

It's not like I slept on the remote and somehow accidentally and miraculously got it to record that, especially since my Harmony remote was in its charging cradle. Even if someone was playing a joke on me and set it to record something, how come the program didn't show up on any of the lists or folders?

Not like I figure it's a problem - just wondering if anyone else has had this happen.

TiVo sometimes will drop little jewels like that on us. Doesn't happen very often but it's kind of a way they send out a "commercial." I've seen it happen before, I haven't seen it in quite some time though.
post #4214 of 4820
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Originally Posted by kirby34 View Post

Out of curiosity, anyone ever had their Tivo HD not only mysteriously record something that wasn't scheduled but also not have a trace of said recording show up anywhere?

Do you have TiVo suggestions turned on or off.
post #4215 of 4820
My daughters boyfriend recorded the second season of Merlin off cable onto his TiVo and wants to bring the episodes over to our house for all of us to watch. He was talking about burning DVD's, but I'm thinking the easiest path would be for him to use his laptop and kmttg to upload the .tivo files to a portable USB HDD. I can then attach the HDD to my PC and push the .tivo files down to my TiVo. I know I can strip the wrapper off the files with kmttg, but if possible I would like to keep them as .tivo files and retain all the info and have them tucked into their own folder on the TiVo NPL.

So, is this doable or is the .tivo wrapper machine specific.
post #4216 of 4820
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kelson View Post

My daughters boyfriend recorded the second season of Merlin off cable onto his TiVo and wants to bring the episodes over to our house for all of us to watch. He was talking about burning DVD's, but I'm thinking the easiest path would be for him to use his laptop and kmttg to upload the .tivo files to a portable USB HDD. I can then attach the HDD to my PC and push the .tivo files down to my TiVo. I know I can strip the wrapper off the files with kmttg, but if possible I would like to keep them as .tivo files and retain all the info and have them tucked into their own folder on the TiVo NPL.

So, is this doable or is the .tivo wrapper machine specific.

The .tivo files should only be playable on his account, since it has a different media access key than yours. But you can still push the files after being stripped to your tiVo. For me I just use a portable media player instead of sending the content back to the TiVo, but if you have a premiere the faster transfer rate would make that much quicker.
post #4217 of 4820
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Originally Posted by JediMaster109 View Post

What are peoples experience with TiVo HD's and TA's from Time Warner, I have a Tivo HD that I'm not using right now, the whole OTA thing didn't work out for me... So I went back to Cable. Anybody in the Milwaukee, WI area have Time Warner and use Cable Cards with their Tuning Adapter? Good or Bad experiences???

The initial Tuning Adapter they gave me was a dud. Got a new one and that lasted about 9 months before it died and they had to send me another.

Their service reps knew virtually nothing about the TA when I was first setup and it was a chore to get the initial TA and replacement. 9 months later their service was much better and in fact the new box was on my porch when I got home from work the day after I called, even though my call had been after 5pm.
post #4218 of 4820
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Originally Posted by aaronwt View Post

The .tivo files should only be playable on his account, since it has a different media access key than yours. But you can still push the files after being stripped to your tiVo. For me I just use a portable media player instead of sending the content back to the TiVo.

Thanks aaronwt. That's a shame about the .tivo encrypted wrapper, but I'm not surprised. I've tried playing the .MPG files on my media player, but skipping commercials in 30 sec hops on the TiVo beats FF-ing on the media player hands down. I'll just queue the .MPGs back to the TiVo on the over-night shift. Either that, or if I get industrious and have time to kill I may just pull out the commercials with Video Redo.
post #4219 of 4820
Quote:
Originally Posted by kirby34 View Post

Out of curiosity, anyone ever had their Tivo HD not only mysteriously record something that wasn't scheduled but also not have a trace of said recording show up anywhere?

That may not make much sense, but after I woke up yesterday afternoon (I work nights), I turned on the TiVo and TV and noticed one of the red LED's was illuminated, indicating it was recording something, which I thought was odd because I didn't remember scheduling anything for that time. I looked at the Now Playing screen and it didn't show anything currently recording, which struck me as very odd.

I went to Live TV and it was tuned into Andy Griffith on TV Land, a channel I rarely watch and a show which I've never recorded before, so I'd never created a Wish List or Season Pass for it, but the record symbol on the Info overlay did indicate it was recording. I stopped the recording and the LED light went off. I went back to Now Playing and it still wasn't showing up there. Even though I didn't even get a chance to delete it, I looked at the recording history in the To Do List and the recently deleted folder and it didn't show up in either of those.

It's not like I slept on the remote and somehow accidentally and miraculously got it to record that, especially since my Harmony remote was in its charging cradle. Even if someone was playing a joke on me and set it to record something, how come the program didn't show up on any of the lists or folders?

Not like I figure it's a problem - just wondering if anyone else has had this happen.

I've seen the red light on before but never turned the TV on to investigate like you did. I've read it is how the Tivo gets it's preview options. Occasionally you will be given a option to watch a preview for a upcoming show. If you select it will play the commercial.
I learned about it because I inquired a while back how Tivo could send something like a 2 minute preview over my dial-up connection where a 2 minute MP3 takes 10 minutes a 2 minute video would run for hours. I was told things like previews are not downloaded but rather come in during off hours recordings.
I don't know why Andy Griffith was being recorded but maybe it was a programming change.
Kelson also has a good thought if you have suggestions enabled. In that case you're Tivo could be recording all the time but if that was the case I'd think it would have shown up in a suggestions type of folder. I don't use the suggestions feature.
post #4220 of 4820
Quote:
Originally Posted by kirby34 View Post

Out of curiosity, anyone ever had their Tivo HD not only mysteriously record something that wasn't scheduled but also not have a trace of said recording show up anywhere?

As mentioned earlier it sounds like you have suggestions turned on and it was recording one. When you are recording a suggestion it doesn't show on the Now Playing List at the top, it will only show if you click into the suggestions group at the bottom. Additionally if you tell it to stop recording during a suggestion it will remove the recorded portion as soon as it stops recording.
At least that's how mine works- hope it helps.
post #4221 of 4820
I was pretty sure that I had turned off suggestions before, but I checked anyhow and it is indeed turned off.

Just like jjeff said, I'd be rather surprised if Andy Griffith was being recorded as a suggestion if I had it enabled. Heh.

No harm, no foul, I guess.
post #4222 of 4820
That's how TiVo gets the little videos/ads for you. When I was on cable, I used to see them being recorded from the Discovery Channel (TeleWorld Media). I turned off that channel and they were no longer recorded!
Now that I am OTA, I never see these any more...
post #4223 of 4820
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Originally Posted by thewarm View Post

That's how TiVo gets the little videos/ads for you. When I was on cable, I used to see them being recorded from the Discovery Channel (TeleWorld Media). I turned off that channel and they were no longer recorded!
Now that I am OTA, I never see these any more...

OTA is the best! But my TiVo records Andy Griffith too LOL. Probably because I record the old "Highway Patrol" show, "Mr. Ed" and "Seahunt" from ThisTV.
post #4224 of 4820
I bought a My DVR Expander 1 TB (WD) but could not set it up.

I followed the instruction till the part where it says plug Tivo power back in and follow onscreen instructions. But there was no onscreen instructions, the Tivo only did a normal reboot and in the end displayed the main menu.

So I went to Settings menu to go to External storage and it said... "external storage detected but not setup..." I followed the steps to set it up, but then again it did nothing more than just a simple Tivo restart. When it was back on again, nothing changed.

Why is it so difficult? or it's just a case of defective expander drive.

Can anyone please help? I don't know how a normal expander setup process should be...

Thanks a lot in advance
post #4225 of 4820
Unplug the TiVo. Unplug MYDVR Expander. Plug in my DVR Expander, make sure you have your cable going into the back of the TiVo for the ESATA. Allow My DVR EXpander to run 15 seconds then plug into the TiVo.

If that doesn't work, try it again. It wil pick it up.

You do have the latest firmware installed on your TiVo, correct? If this is a new TiVo you'll have to update the firmware first or else it will not connect to your ESATA.
post #4226 of 4820
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Originally Posted by hookbill View Post

Unplug the TiVo. Unplug MYDVR Expander. Plug in my DVR Expander, make sure you have your cable going into the back of the TiVo for the ESATA. Allow My DVR EXpander to run 15 seconds then plug into the TiVo.

If that doesn't work, try it again. It wil pick it up.

You do have the latest firmware installed on your TiVo, correct? If this is a new TiVo you'll have to update the firmware first or else it will not connect to your ESATA.

I have had the TiVo HD box for almost 3 years. I assume it automatically updates software periodically (correct?) Does that mean firmware is up to date?

Yes, tried all the things you said. TiVo detects the expander connected to it but still says the expander has not been set up to use. The problem is I cannot set it up! Every time I try, it does a restart and that's it!

[silly question] it's not possible to connect (by mistake) the eSata cable up side down, is it? It looks like a USB connector with only 1 correct way to plug-in, right?
post #4227 of 4820
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Originally Posted by midnightman View Post

I have had the TiVo HD box for almost 3 years. I assume it automatically updates software periodically (correct?) Does that mean firmware is up to date?

Yes, tried all the things you said. TiVo detects the expander connected to it but still says the expander has not been set up to use. The problem is I cannot set it up! Every time I try, it does a restart and that's it!

[silly question] it's not possible to connect (by mistake) the eSata cable up side down, is it? It looks like a USB connector with only 1 correct way to plug-in, right?

True there's only one way to plug it in. It sounds to be like you could possibly have a bad eSATA. Either that or the cable connecting eSATA is bad.

I would exchange it for another then. The fact that it's restarting also makes me think bad hard drive. You don't have any problem with it without the eSATA, correct? If that's true then exchange it for another eSATA.
post #4228 of 4820
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Originally Posted by Kelson View Post

To all you Video Redo TV Suite users out there. I have been playing with the trial version, mostly to see how good the ad-detection works. I'm very pleased that it works well with the HiDef .TIVO files to cut commercials and write out an .MPG file maintaining the original broadcast resolution and 5.1 audio. I can send that .MPG file to my NAS and stream it with my FAT+. However for archiving, I'm disappointed that it appears it can only author that file as DVD-Video by transcoding the HD to SD and burning onto DVD-R. Useful in itself but not a total solution.

So my question: What software are people using to author and burn those HiDef .MPG files as HD (i.e. AVCHD, or BDMV/AV).

thanks in advance.

Kelson-
What I used to do is use VideoReDo (VDR) to create a MPG files and then use Ripbot to create AVCHD disks to play on my Blu-Ray player. That is time consuming (8+ hours to transcode a football game on core 2 computer), but produces excellent results. I just got the new VRD that supports .H264 encoding and it looks as though I'll use it to write .m2ts files, if I decide to use disks. I'll then use tsMuxer to create AVCHD disks.

However, I've started to use StreamBaby to send Mp4 encodings to the Tivo instead of using disks. It really is a lot easier. I need to play with version 4 of VRD to see what the options are for audio encoding - it appears that MP4 files only support stereo.

I've used VRD for years and love it, but there is a problem with its commercial skip. The commercial skip does a 99% perfect job, but still needs careful editing on your part. I cannot tell you the number of important scenes in a show or plays in a game that I accidentally lost because I didn't take the time to make sure I was only cutting commercials. I have to tell you that, because I am able to use .H264 encoding and use StreamBaby to send the recordings to my Tivo, I no longer cut commercials.

My first impression of VRD's .H264 encoding is that it is surprisingly fast. It takes me 39 minutes to transcode an hour recording of a HDTV show. However, it appears that you cannot set a desired output size. This makes it hard to know if your transcoding will fit on a disk. RipBot allows me to give it a specific size or bitrate for the final encoding, which may be important to you.
post #4229 of 4820
Hyrax,

Thanks for the info. I got the trial version of VRD from the main website and so was playing with V3. I did a search and find that V4 is still in pre-release so it was not listed for trialware on the site. I found the link for V4 and downloaded it. I'll play with it tonight. Fast H.264 encoding support would make a big difference. Using kmttg to transcode (using handbrake) takes a loooong time.

Like you, I stream just about everything (I'm now using a media player for non-TiVo files) from my NAS. But there are some things I want to burn and keep in HD/5.1 (i.e. Doc Halladay's perfect game over the weekend).

Aside: even though the same H.264 encoder can be used for AVCHD or BDMV/AV formats, from the references I've read, it is my understanding that AVCHD format is for burning to DVD-5/9 media and not BD-25/50. BD media is authored as BDMV or BDAV. I've not come upon any reference that says a BD player will recognize and play a BD-R burned in AVCHD format. If I am wrong on that, someone please correct.

edit: apparently AVCHD format can be burned to BD-R and read by most BD players -- the learning never stops.
post #4230 of 4820
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Originally Posted by Kelson View Post

So my question: What software are people using to author and burn those HiDef .MPG files as HD (i.e. AVCHD, or BDMV/AV).

thanks in advance.

My thinking is that the cost of these discs are too high now. I bought a 2TB drive to store the files. In a year or 2 when the cost is more acceptable, I'll the files to disc
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