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post #4261 of 4820
I just wanted to be sure but if i'm not mistaken you still need to have an internet plan even if you own a tivo hd with lifetime service? Cable or OTA included?
post #4262 of 4820
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Originally Posted by Chere View Post

I just wanted to be sure but if i'm not mistaken you still need to have an internet plan even if you own a tivo hd with lifetime service? Cable or OTA included?

In the past I have used my TiVo HD (lifetime sub) with nothing more than an antenna and a phone connection. The TiVo would dial in daily to get the guide info. Obviously, no Netflix, or other network apps...
post #4263 of 4820
You do need internet so it can pull the programming data. Doesnt matter what type if internet but you need something. Or as above a phone connection.
post #4264 of 4820
Tivo works just fine with a phone line. It only takes a few minutes to download guide and if you're on the phone or pick up the phone during a download it disconnects and tries later. Your plan has nothing to do with it.
post #4265 of 4820
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Originally Posted by bwall23 View Post

... There is a section of the FAQ that shows how to STREAM HD Patterns with STREAMBABY (which transcodes them, so NOGO for me) and I had asked if there was a way to transfer them to the TiVoHD so they show in the NPL (Now Playing List). There was a way mentioned, but it also transcoded them as they have no audio, and I haven't seen an answer since then. Would love to see a solution if you find one. I assume by the posts that we're the only two people interested in doing this.

If your HD test patterns are in the correct format, I am pretty sure Strambaby will not transcode them. It only transcodes stuff that the Tivo cannot play. It seems that your job is to get them into the correct format before sending them to the Tivo. I think your options are MPEG and MP4 with a TivoHD, and not all MP4 stuff will play.

I have copied MPEG files to my TivoHD that were accidentally missing audio, and they do not transcode. However, if you think they need audio, it is pretty simple to add audio with free muxing tools.
post #4266 of 4820
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Originally Posted by Hyrax View Post

If your HD test patterns are in the correct format, I am pretty sure Strambaby will not transcode them. It only transcodes stuff that the Tivo cannot play. It seems that your job is to get them into the correct format before sending them to the Tivo. I think your options are MPEG and MP4 with a TivoHD, and not all MP4 stuff will play.

I have copied MPEG files to my TivoHD that were accidentally missing audio, and they do not transcode. However, if you think they need audio, it is pretty simple to add audio with free muxing tools.

Hurm - you've intrigued me - I've used a program (forgot the name) to convert the .tivo to .mpg file but if I stream it to any other networked device (popcorn hour, PS3, etc) I get no audio. I'm interested in what program would work to give me audio (the audio/video play fine on my PC)
post #4267 of 4820
Wryker-
The problem you've got is that the audio is probably in the wrong format. So you need to either reconvert the .tivo files, or fix the audio.

There are a lot of free tools for doing this (fixing the audio), but most have a steep learning curve. You can separate the audio and video from your .mpg file with eac3to and convert the audio to a format that works with your network device. You can then put the audio & video back together using tsMuxR. They provide is a nice gui for tsMuxR, but eac3to is a command line tool. There are a few wrappers for eac3to, such as HdBrStreamExtractor, that may help.
Also tools like Ripbot264 or Handbrake would do everything in one step for you, but they will transcode the video.
post #4268 of 4820
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Originally Posted by jjeff View Post

Tivo works just fine with a phone line. It only takes a few minutes to download guide and if you're on the phone or pick up the phone during a download it disconnects and tries later. Your plan has nothing to do with it.


Thanks everyone! It looks like all I need is to set up a basic landline telephone account and i'll be good to go.
post #4269 of 4820
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Originally Posted by Hyrax View Post

Wryker-
The problem you've got is that the audio is probably in the wrong format. So you need to either reconvert the .tivo files, or fix the audio.

There are a lot of free tools for doing this (fixing the audio), but most have a steep learning curve. You can separate the audio and video from your .mpg file with eac3to and convert the audio to a format that works with your network device. You can then put the audio & video back together using tsMuxR. They provide is a nice gui for tsMuxR, but eac3to is a command line tool. There are a few wrappers for eac3to, such as HdBrStreamExtractor, that may help.
Also tools like Ripbot264 or Handbrake would do everything in one step for you, but they will transcode the video.

"reconvert" the tivo files? meaning convert it back to .tivo? i might look into handbrake since that's one i know a lot of people use for transcoding.
post #4270 of 4820
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Originally Posted by Wryker View Post

"reconvert" the tivo files? meaning convert it back to .tivo? i might look into handbrake since that's one i know a lot of people use for transcoding.

Sorry I was not clear, I meant if you had the original tivo file, you might try to convert it again to a mpeg. My thinking was that the original process might not have dealt with the audio correctly. kmttg has a pretty nice wrapper for handbrake, and will convert tivo files to mpeg files.
post #4271 of 4820
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Originally Posted by Wryker View Post

I've used a program (forgot the name) to convert the .tivo to .mpg file but if I stream it to any other networked device (popcorn hour, PS3, etc) I get no audio. I'm interested in what program would work to give me audio (the audio/video play fine on my PC)

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Originally Posted by Hyrax View Post

kmttg has a pretty nice wrapper for handbrake, and will convert tivo files to mpeg files.

I've used kmttg to strip the TiVo wrapper from recordings of "V" (ABC-HD) and produce the .MPG files. These .MPG files stream perfectly on my Seagate FreeAgent Theater + in HD/5.1. No audio issues.
post #4272 of 4820
Hi-
I just bought a Premiere and wonder about sharing (transferring) recordings from my TivoHD. Can I share them over the Internet (one Tivo at one house, the other at another)?
post #4273 of 4820
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Originally Posted by Hyrax View Post

Hi-
I just bought a Premiere and wonder about sharing (transferring) recordings from my TivoHD. Can I share them over the Internet (one Tivo at one house, the other at another)?

I don't know if you can do that directly between two TiVo's, but even if you could it would be dreadfully slow. Just sending a 6GB TiVo recording from my PC to my NAS over wired 100Mbps ethernet takes 15-16 min. I would imagine your Internet connection is a lot slower than that.
post #4274 of 4820
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Originally Posted by Kelson View Post

I've used kmttg to strip the TiVo wrapper from recordings of "V" (ABC-HD) and produce the .MPG files. These .MPG files stream perfectly on my Seagate FreeAgent Theater + in HD/5.1. No audio issues.

Thanks - I have the website page opened at home to install kmttg so I hope to get a chance to install and try it out this weekend.
post #4275 of 4820
I'm wondering now if the Netflix issue I was having is a symptom of a larger problem - a couple times in the last 2 or 3 days I went into the menu and the Netflix icon no longer showed up. I had to go into settings and tell it to connect to get the icon back.
post #4276 of 4820
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Originally Posted by sirjonsnow View Post

I'm wondering now if the Netflix issue I was having is a symptom of a larger problem - a couple times in the last 2 or 3 days I went into the menu and the Netflix icon no longer showed up. I had to go into settings and tell it to connect to get the icon back.

I have noticed some strange behavior from Netflix during the past few days: the Netflix folder has disappeared, and I've gotten "booted out" of Netflix back to the "My Shows" menu while watching a Netflix stream. I was thinking it was a Netflix problem because I have difficulty even hitting their website on multiple occasions in the past week.
post #4277 of 4820
I've no idea if the problems you're having streaming videos are based solely on Netflix or on the Tivo's implementation of Netflix streaming. However, I do have an idea what part of the problem might be.

we play a lot of World of Warcraft in this household and, because of that I monitor our internet speed a lot. Slow upload and download speeds kill online gaming, so it is important for me to know when our connection is bad. You would be surprised at how much the Internet speed changes during an hour. Right now Speednet tells me my down/up is 28K/2.7K, but my going through my history I see lots of values in the 3.2K/0.19K range.

There have been nights where Netflix streams beautifully and everyone is happy with their online game. On other nights Netflix starts and stops frequently, while the family yells at me to reset the modem, call Comcast, or do something because they keep on disconnecting.

My take is that streaming video over the internet is chancy. Netflix has to running properly, your Tivo needs to be running properly, and everything between between your Tivo and the streaming server (including your modem and router) needs to be running properly. It amazes me that it ever works.
post #4278 of 4820
Can anyone tell me how use a remote to control only one of two tivos? I've had a TivoHD for years and I just got my Premiere and am evaluating if I want to keep it or not. Because of this, I've got both Tivos in the same equipment rack and want to be able to have a remote that controls only one of the Tivos at a time.

I'm experimenting with covering the TivoHD with cardboard, but that seems silly.
post #4279 of 4820
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Originally Posted by Hyrax View Post

Can anyone tell me how use a remote to control only one of two tivos? I've had a TivoHD for years and I just got my Premiere and am evaluating if I want to keep it or not. Because of this, I've got both Tivos in the same equipment rack and want to be able to have a remote that controls only one of the Tivos at a time.

I'm experimenting with covering the TivoHD with cardboard, but that seems silly.

What about this: http://support.tivo.com/app/answers/...es/r_id/100041
post #4280 of 4820
The software is finally catching up to the 'free' stuff: http://hd.engadget.com/2010/06/11/ti...der-view-from/
post #4281 of 4820
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Originally Posted by Mesickstan View Post

What about this: ...

Thanks! I tried several searches (including 'two remotes'), but didn't find that an answer.
post #4282 of 4820
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Originally Posted by Hyrax View Post

Thanks! I tried several searches (including 'two remotes'), but didn't find that an answer.


You can choose any remote code between 0 and 9, although 0 and maybe one work on all tivos. I know this was the case when I first got several TiVos in 2001, and I still use different remote codes for each of my six Premiere boxes.
post #4283 of 4820
So today I learned that TiVo box does not support ESPN3D

TiVo Premiere just came out but already became useless...
post #4284 of 4820
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Originally Posted by Hyrax View Post

Kelson-
What I used to do is use VideoReDo (VDR) to create a MPG files and then use Ripbot to create AVCHD disks to play on my Blu-Ray player. That is time consuming (8+ hours to transcode a football game on core 2 computer), but produces excellent results. I just got the new VRD that supports .H264 encoding and it looks as though I'll use it to write .m2ts files, if I decide to use disks. I'll then use tsMuxer to create AVCHD disks.

However, I've started to use StreamBaby to send Mp4 encodings to the Tivo instead of using disks. It really is a lot easier. I need to play with version 4 of VRD to see what the options are for audio encoding - it appears that MP4 files only support stereo.

since you're no longer burning to disks, why not just go back to streaming the mpg files?



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Originally Posted by Hyrax View Post


I've used VRD for years and love it, but there is a problem with its commercial skip. The commercial skip does a 99% perfect job, but still needs careful editing on your part. I cannot tell you the number of important scenes in a show or plays in a game that I accidentally lost because I didn't take the time to make sure I was only cutting commercials. I have to tell you that, because I am able to use .H264 encoding and use StreamBaby to send the recordings to my Tivo, I no longer cut commercials.

Not sure I understand this either. Why not cut commercials? Does encoding with .H264 somehow disallow or become too complicated to do when it is presented with an mpg file that has edit points where commercials have been removed?

As background for why I am asking these questions, I started out reading a few of your posts as you seem to have used most or at least be familiar with many of the free conversion software tools, in addition to the pay-for program, VideoReDo.

Before taking that purchasing plunge, I wanted to make sure that the use of VideoReDo hasn't become "quaint" among any segment of current or former users who now look to other free software tools to get the job done just as well, better or for cheaper.

Particularly people that work a lot with .tivo/mpg files and who perform relatively basic editing of those files (i.e., removing commercials and sometimes splicing them down further to isolate segments which are then merged with other segments or disparate scenes, for the purpose of creating highlight packages).
post #4285 of 4820
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Originally Posted by midnightman View Post

So today I learned that TiVo box does not support ESPN3D

TiVo Premiere just came out but already became useless...

Can you cite your source?

When Comcast temporarily added the ESPN 3D coverage of the Masters Golf Tournament, my S3 recorded and played back the program just fine.

Unfortunately, I don't have a 3D TV to properly decode the 3D broadcasts. However, I was able to use the technique explained in 3D coffee table books (which requires crossing your eyes) to actually see the broadcast in 3D for short periods of time. Too much eye strain.

For more info about this no glasses technique, see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stereoscopy Jump down to the section on Sterographic cards and the steroscope.
post #4286 of 4820
Comcast is using MPEG-4 for the World Cup on ESPN (Masters was MPEG-2), which only their boxes can detect and play (at present). Tivo needs to roll a software update for this, and I'm surprised that they either didn't know about it or didn't care - the hardware certainly supports MP4.

But this hardly makes the Tivo 'useless', 3D is overhyped, expensive, and IMHO few give a damn about it right now...
post #4287 of 4820
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Originally Posted by midnightman View Post

So today I learned that TiVo box does not support ESPN3D

TiVo Premiere just came out but already became useless...

From what I recall, the ESPN3D channel is delivered in MPEG-4. The current TiVo software does not support MPEG-4 for channel delivery; the current software only supports MPEG-4 for Internet VOD services. Now that cable providers are adding MPEG-4 channels, I expect TiVo to extend its MPEG-4 support to linear cable channels with the next software update.
post #4288 of 4820
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Originally Posted by a68oliver View Post

Can you cite your source?

When Comcast temporarily added the ESPN 3D coverage of the Masters Golf Tournament, my S3 recorded and played back the program just fine.

Unfortunately, I don't have a 3D TV to properly decode the 3D broadcasts. However, I was able to use the technique explained in 3D coffee table books (which requires crossing your eyes) to actually see the broadcast in 3D for short periods of time. Too much eye strain.

For more info about this no glasses technique, see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stereoscopy Jump down to the section on Sterographic cards and the steroscope.

Yes, I know people watched and recorded the Masters 3D on TiVo, but ESPN3D is different (they use MPEG-4). I wasn't sure so I asked TiVo customer support, and they wrote back:

"We do apologize for the inconvenience, however 3-D viewing is not supported currently on any TiVo box. This may be a feature that becomes available in the future, but is not available now"

Also this is on Comcast website:
"Note: TiVo series 3 and Premiere HD/DVRs do not currently support the HD 3D format that ESPN3D will be broadcast in. For that reason, if you have a TiVo receiver, you may not have access to ESPN3D."
post #4289 of 4820
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Originally Posted by bfdtv View Post

From what I recall, the ESPN3D channel is delivered in MPEG-4. The current TiVo software does not support MPEG-4 for channel delivery; the current software only supports MPEG-4 for Internet VOD services. Now that cable providers are adding MPEG-4 channels, I expect TiVo to extend its MPEG-4 support to linear cable channels with the next software update.

If that's the case TiVO better take care of this. I may not care right now about 3D but I know I will in the future (like..say FOOTBALL in 3D!)
post #4290 of 4820
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Originally Posted by bfdtv View Post

From what I recall, the ESPN3D channel is delivered in MPEG-4. The current TiVo software does not support MPEG-4 for channel delivery; the current software only supports MPEG-4 for Internet VOD services. Now that cable providers are adding MPEG-4 channels, I expect TiVo to extend its MPEG-4 support to linear cable channels with the next software update.

Can the S3/THD units deal with MPEG4 channel delivery with a software update?
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