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post #4771 of 4820
IMO you'd have better results selling the HD on fleabay with a lifetime sub, but it wouldn't hurt to fish for free here first..
post #4772 of 4820
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Originally Posted by Rammitinski View Post

Just look under "Most Bashed Items".
"Most bashed" if you don't own one and more than likely Most praised if you do wink.gif
post #4773 of 4820
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Originally Posted by jjeff View Post

"Most bashed" if you don't own one . . .
Make that "don't own one but really want one but either can't afford one or are unwilling to pay the asking price."
post #4774 of 4820
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Originally Posted by slowbiscuit View Post

IMO you'd have better results selling the HD on fleabay with a lifetime sub, but it wouldn't hurt to fish for free here first..

Yes, but the reason I hope to avoid eBay is their new costs to sellers. They now want 10% and add 2.9% for Paypal and I can offer it at a good price here...and even Craigslist. I am taking pics now and can post it here. This THD looks like the day we bought it, except it now has a 2TB drive that was just put in!
post #4775 of 4820
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Originally Posted by mpsan View Post

Yes, but the reason I hope to avoid eBay is their new costs to sellers. They now want 10% and add 2.9% for Paypal and I can offer it at a good price here...and even Craigslist. I am taking pics now and can post it here. This THD looks like the day we bought it, except it now has a 2TB drive that was just put in!
Yes, I just sold some items on eBay and their cut is incredible, it's something I will think long and hard about ever doing again. Definitely seek alternative methods to sell your item, I sold 2 items totaling $1000 and eBay whacked off $100 for themselves, before the listing fees and PayPal fees were even added in, it's crazy. This 10% thing just started in April I believe and I wasn't aware of it, my fault, but never again.
post #4776 of 4820
10%!!!!!!!???!!??!!! That seems rather excessive.
post #4777 of 4820
Yes, 10%. The reason most people do not notice is that as a BUYER you never get into a sellers cost(s). Paypal is 2.9% and unless I can sell it on Craigslist, that can not be avoided, but 10% for eBay is getting to be too much $$$.
post #4778 of 4820
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Originally Posted by aaronwt View Post

10%!!!!!!!???!!??!!! That seems rather excessive.

Yep, not unusual to pay 13% fees between ebay and PP now. They suck, but are still the 1000 pound gorilla if you want to sell.
post #4779 of 4820
I can try CraigsList. For some reason the prices seem lower. I would think people would love to buy from a local seller as you can see what the condition is no matter how it is described!
post #4780 of 4820
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Originally Posted by mpsan View Post

I can try CraigsList. For some reason the prices seem lower. I would think people would love to buy from a local seller as you can see what the condition is no matter how it is described!
Thats one of the reasons I've never used ebay but regularly use CL smile.gif
Note for the seller though, I regularly see things selling(or at least listing) on ebay for several times what they do on CL.....even with the 13% cut you might be better off selling on ebay.
post #4781 of 4820
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Originally Posted by jjeff View Post

Thats one of the reasons I've never used ebay but regularly use CL smile.gif
Note for the seller though, I regularly see things selling(or at least listing) on ebay for several times what they do on CL.....even with the 13% cut you might be better off selling on ebay.

Well, I can try CL and see what happens. Even at $400 shipped on EBAY (and I would never get that) I would only get $325 by the time I pay ebay, paypal and shipping costs!
post #4782 of 4820
You'd be surprised, I sold a lifetime HD with a 1 TB drive for $375 shipped on fleabay last fall. If you post it as buy it now for, say $390 or so, I'd bet it would sell. You might get lucky on CL but you might also get low-ballers if you get any interest at all.
post #4783 of 4820
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Originally Posted by slowbiscuit View Post

You'd be surprised, I sold a lifetime HD with a 1 TB drive for $375 shipped on fleabay last fall. If you post it as buy it now for, say $390 or so, I'd bet it would sell. You might get lucky on CL but you might also get low-ballers if you get any interest at all.

Did you have a minimum price when you sold it for $375? Also, now between ebay and paypal, $375 shipped would be about $305 if shipping is about $20!
Edited by mpsan - 5/5/13 at 2:04pm
post #4784 of 4820
Like I said, post it as buy it now for the price you want and see what happens.
post #4785 of 4820
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Originally Posted by slowbiscuit View Post

Like I said, post it as buy it now for the price you want and see what happens.

Well, I just posted it here. I even uploaded a few Pictures so I hope someone on AVS buys it as it is a perfect unit. I almost hate to get rid of it but I do not need it after buying a P4 and XL4. Not sure how much activity the ads get here on AVS.
post #4786 of 4820
I hope you get your asking price as I have a Series 3 and an HD, both with 1TB drives and Lifetime I'm thinking of selling to get a Premiere 4.
post #4787 of 4820
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Originally Posted by keenan View Post

I hope you get your asking price as I have a Series 3 and an HD, both with 1TB drives and Lifetime I'm thinking of selling to get a Premiere 4.

I hope so. My 2TB Lifetime unit must be worth what I am asking. I am selling it as TIVO just gave us a deal on a P4 and an XL4 that was great. Soon, I will sell my 1 TB Lifetime unit, but there are some shows on it that we can not transfer due to copy bits!

Did you see my ad and did the pictures come out OK?
post #4788 of 4820
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Originally Posted by Rammitinski View Post

Just look under "Most Bashed Items".

However, I have nothing to bash as far as using my Premiere goes. Nothing, Zip. Nada.

I use mine as a straight HD STB - all I needed was a CableCARD (which I already had) - because my FP LCD, like most, supports HDMI, it's just a single cable connecting the two. (Both HDMI and component/composite cables are included in the box the Premiere is packaged in.)

Channel tuning is as fast as, if not faster than, most STBs - HD or SD.

The remote (which comes with batteries) can also control the TV your Premiere is connected to - it's not universal, but IS programmable. (Yes - the standard Premiere remote remains the ergonomic wonder that is typically TiVo.)

Even better, a Premiere + CableCARD is cheaper per month than an STB from Comcast nowadays; an STB (HD or SD) now typically is leased for $9.99 per month CableCARDs cost nothing per month. Already have HD elsewhere? You do NOT get hit with a second HD Technology fee with a Premiere - therefore, a Premiere connected to a TV that lacks an STB adds nothing to your bill - if it replaces an STB, your bill goes down. (Mom got a Premiere that will replace an SD STB connected to an older "HD ready" SONY WEGA CRT which supports HDMI.)

I admit - a TiVo Premiere as a "straight" STB (even an HD STB) is overkill; however, until a CableCARD-supporting alternative becomes available, the Premiere is the only real option if you want to shrink your cable bill without reducing your cable service.
post #4789 of 4820
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Originally Posted by Hyrax View Post

Kelson gave you great info for connecting the Tivo directly to your PC. But the transfer speed for a TivoHD is so slow that being wired may not be a huge improvement over a good WiFi signal. Just try Tivo Desktop or kmttg with your current setup and see how it goes. If it works well enough you don't need to mess with your setup.

I highly recommend kttmg over Tivo Desktop, by the way. Tivo Desktop is only slightly easier to use and has a lot fewer features.

BTW I'm in the same boat you are and am seriously thinking of installing the largest hard drive that my Tivo can support.

The reason for that is that the RJ-45 connection for all Tivos is only 100mbps - not gigabit. Yes, that includes the recently-updated Premiere with the 500GB hard drive, which is the model that I have, and Mom just got.

You can also connect external drives (via either USB or eSATA - even the Premiere still supports both sorts of connections for drive extenders) - WD MyBooks are ideal for this.
post #4790 of 4820
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Originally Posted by mpsan View Post

I hope so. My 2TB Lifetime unit must be worth what I am asking. I am selling it as TIVO just gave us a deal on a P4 and an XL4 that was great. Soon, I will sell my 1 TB Lifetime unit, but there are some shows on it that we can not transfer due to copy bits!

Did you see my ad and did the pictures come out OK?
Yes it looks fine, anyone who knows anything about TiVos really doesn't even need pictures, but they are nice to have in an ad. smile.gif
post #4791 of 4820
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Originally Posted by PGHammer21A View Post

The reason for that is that the RJ-45 connection for all Tivos is only 100mbps - not gigabit. Yes, that includes the recently-updated Premiere with the 500GB hard drive, which is the model that I have, and Mom just got.

Ethernet speed has nothing to do with it, neither the HD nor the Premiere can saturate a 100mb connection due to CPU limitations. The HD in particular can only do at most high 20s for transfers in/out. This is generally good enough to watch one transferred HD show in realtime, assuming the HD is relatively idle.
post #4792 of 4820
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Originally Posted by slowbiscuit View Post

Ethernet speed has nothing to do with it, neither the HD nor the Premiere can saturate a 100mb connection due to CPU limitations. The HD in particular can only do at most high 20s for transfers in/out. This is generally good enough to watch one transferred HD show in realtime, assuming the HD is relatively idle.
No, the HD is more like 14-15Mbps max if you have both tuners set to null channels. Post #1 of the Premier thread has bar graph comparisons of transfer times.
post #4793 of 4820
Sorry, but I consistently got more than that from HD to HD. Easily 25mbps+ as reported by the Tivos themselves. You're talking about transfers to/from a PC, I was talking about going between Tivos. Two different measurements, but the point doesn't change that 100mbps Ethernet is not the limiting factor on transfers no matter how you do them.
post #4794 of 4820
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Originally Posted by slowbiscuit View Post

Sorry, but I consistently got more than that from HD to HD. Easily 25mbps+ as reported by the Tivos themselves. You're talking about transfers to/from a PC, I was talking about going between Tivos.
Yes, that is absolutely correct, I'm only considering HD <-> PC transfers. And for that I've never gotten better than 15Mbps from HD --> PC, as reported by kmttg. I have no experience with HD <-> HD transfers.

And yes, I agree that 100BaseT is not a limitation. The processor in the HD does not have the power to do better.
post #4795 of 4820
This is an FYI for HD users:

I have one Premiere and two HD's on three TV's. I found recently that I could not tune 1363 on Cox North on either HD's but it was available on the Premiere.

I learned that Cox had moved 1363 to a group of channels that required H.264/MPEG-4 and the HD's cannot see it since they see MPEG-2 only. The Premiere can.

So...now I have all three on lifetime and cannot transfer the lifetime to a new Premiere. Since there is only one channel in this category that I want to watch, I will wait a while to switch..
post #4796 of 4820
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Originally Posted by Ennui View Post

This is an FYI for HD users:

I have one Premiere and two HD's on three TV's. I found recently that I could not tune 1363 on Cox North on either HD's but it was available on the Premiere.

I learned that Cox had moved 1363 to a group of channels that required H.264/MPEG-4 and the HD's cannot see it since they see MPEG-2 only. The Premiere can.

So...now I have all three on lifetime and cannot transfer the lifetime to a new Premiere. Since there is only one channel in this category that I want to watch, I will wait a while to switch..

Your story sounds like mine. Last year, my daughter and son in law gave me a Premier Elite, to which I added a lifetime subscription. I put my old Series3 in my breakfast room because it too had lifetime coverage and still works perfectly. I learned early on that only the Elite could receive what Cox OKC calls its "Plus Package" channels, a number of extra HBO and Cinemax HD channels. The S3 can't see them. Nevertheless, the old S3 still does the heavy lifting as well as the Elite, so I have not even considered replacing it with a Premiere, to which I would have to add another lifetime subscription.
post #4797 of 4820
I have a TIVO question.

A couple days ago, a neighbor's TV went out. I went over to take a look. She has Verizon with TIVO as her STB. I have never work with TIVO so this was all new to me.

It worked out that Verizon figured the 2 cards in the box were bad. Verizon replaced and mailed the cards. I placed the new cards in and everything worked perfectly.

While workinng on her system, I asked to see her Verizon bill. Both cards were on her bill for $4.99 each. I asked her if she pays TIVO a monthly service fee. She said, "No". I then asked if she had paid TIVO $500 upfront for a life time service? She said, "No".

My understanding is that if TIVO is used, a service fee to TIVO is paid generally $14.99 a month plus a card rental fee to the provider in this case Verizon for total of about $9 a month for two cards.

My understanding is that a monthly fee is paid to TIVO. If so, how can my neighbor not be paying TIVO?

If a fee is not needed to use a TIVO box, I would purchase a TIVO, rent the card from Verizon and save $$$ from not renting Verizon's STB which costs me $17.00 a month.
post #4798 of 4820
A Tivo that does not have an active subscription can be used as a cheap HD STB for cable service, but there are limitations.

No EPG, meaning you will need another source for TV listings.
Also you must enter the Channel Number, or use the Ch. Up or Down buttons since there is no guide to scroll.
Other than the 30 minute buffer, no recording ability whatsoever.
When your cable lineup changes, you need to re-run guided setup to get the new/updated lineup.

Hope this helps.
post #4799 of 4820
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Originally Posted by Charles O View Post

A Tivo that does not have an active subscription can be used as a cheap HD STB for cable service, but there are limitations.

No EPG, meaning you will need another source for TV listings.
Also you must enter the Channel Number, or use the Ch. Up or Down buttons since there is no guide to scroll.
Other than the 30 minute buffer, no recording ability whatsoever.
When your cable lineup changes, you need to re-run guided setup to get the new/updated lineup.

Hope this helps.

Charles O

Yes, it does and I thank you.

So, it can be done. On regular Verizon TV we watch only a few stations and they are plugged into my Harmony remote, Channel line up is not important to us. We mainly watch Netflix,, Amazon and movies by way of a DVD or Blu. On Verizon we watch channel 2, 4, 7, HGTV and FOX news and that is about it.

Sounds like it can work for us, correct?
post #4800 of 4820
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Originally Posted by Charles O View Post

A Tivo that does not have an active subscription can be used as a cheap HD STB for cable service, but there are limitations.

No EPG, meaning you will need another source for TV listings.
Also you must enter the Channel Number, or use the Ch. Up or Down buttons since there is no guide to scroll.
Other than the 30 minute buffer, no recording ability whatsoever.
When your cable lineup changes, you need to re-run guided setup to get the new/updated lineup.

Hope this helps.

Charles O

I was just rereading your post and have a question regarding Verizon channels using a TIVO that is not subscribed to TIVO.

You said that a channel number must be entered. My question is: the number entered, would it be the same number that I enter now using Verizon's STB? As an example: To get HD channel 4, I plug in number 504. Or are the numbers different when using an unsubscribed TIVO box?

I hope that I am making my self understandable.
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