Do any plasmas last 100,000+ hours yet?

First of all, let's be realistic about these numbers. What does 60,000 hour half life mean?

I believe it means if you keep your TV on for 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year, in 6.85 YEARS, the max brightness would half of what it was capable of. Not dead, just half as bright for the max brightness.

A more realistic, yet still extreme number, would be 10 hours a day for 24 hours, 7 days a week, 365 days a year means it would last 16.44 YEARS, before it was not as bright.

Keep in mind, you are never using it at full brightness anyways.

So my question to you is: Does it even matter???

Russ

I don't know where you've seen these numbers, but in all my reading about Plasma stuff over the years the highest number i've seen is 60,000 hours.

But according to at least 4 different Best Buy employees i've overheard, Plasma only lasts 30,000 hours

You trust those idiots?

I fully agree!!!

Chris
mountavision.com

That is why it is part of their marketing strategy to say that. If they can tell you that the shelf life is less than half then that would increase their sales. I would think that manufacturer's set these numbers, so that you will not have to worry about upgrades within the next 5-6 years and to show how reliable the products are within a limited amount of time.

Chris
mountavision.com

my 433 pioneer is 5 years old and has 6 thousand hours on it.Im ready to get rid of it for an upgrade.Why would anyone want a plasma that runs that long

It's not likely that anyone will actually hit the 60,000 hour mark but I wonder what any plasma will look like at half life. I mean, if you turn the brightnes up all the way will you still have a watchable picture? What kind of PQ will you have at 50,000 hours, or 55,000 hours?

I'll let you guys know 10 to 16 years from now when I mount this in my 3y/o son's college dorm, Pio 5080. I'll tell him I had a 19" in my dorm room, ignore the fact that I got the 103" at home!

If I could get 40,000-50,000 watchable hours out of my plasma without any problems, I'd take that in a heartbeat.

I wouldn't be ecstatic with 10,000 hours. At my rate, that would only last me a few years. At the very least, I want a good decade out of it.

Also bear in mind that the 60,000-hour rating is for the plasma's display panel, not the entire monitor. In my opinion, the panel is probably one of the least likely components in the display to fail (which is good, because they are the most expensive to replace).

-Steve

WHY ARE YOU WRITING A BENIGN POST IN BOLD AND SUCH A HUGE SIZE???????

Guys, RandyWalters has over 5,000 posts here - he's aware of Best Buy's general ignorance. He was commenting on that ignorance, not making a statement of fact.

WHAAAAAT???

While there are other things involved...

The longer the life, the less prone to burn-in the Plasma will be.

That'll be great especially for those who like to play games hours and hours.

Geez Guys....50,000.......75,000.....whatever........How many hours a day are enough ?

How much TV do you need to watch ? Besides.......ever look at the TV guide ? a hundred channels of nothing worth watching......

Anybody ever read a book ? ( not the TV Guide either ) Have a hobby ? ( other than watching TV ) Spend time with the family ( Not watching TV either ) ?

If you watch TV until you hit the lifespan of the Brightness settings....maybe you need TV Anonymous

Unless you are in a 6 month Artic winter and can't get out.....get a life.....have some fun....

Sooooooooo much more to life than TV......go out and enjoy it.

The ones that you leave off last 100k.

60k is realistic, but only if you aren't the person that turns on the set for background noise and forgets how long it's on. Things degrade, and plasmas are no different.

I think part of this question surrounds the fact that plasma manufacturers and dealers are still combating short-lifespan mythology from a few years ago. That said, my philosophy has been (well received by consumers and people in general conversation) that if the plasma lasts 10-12 years, that is the typical lifespan of a CRT, and well beyond the point at which you become bored and wish to upgrade anyhoo.

This is correct and verifiable.


Since when has listening to a BB BlueShirt been a good practice when it comes to knowledge? You know better, c'mon.

I will have the answer for you, based on my average daily viewing time, in about thirty years from now. Stand by for the results.

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Both BB's I have been in tried to talk me out of Plasma and push me into LCD.

The problem with BB is they have contests. This month the contest might be to see what salesperson sells the most Sharp's. Next month the contest might be to see who sells the most Sony's. So the salespeople will lie and try to steer a customer to whatever they are told to sell.

I never had this problem at Circuit City. They seem to be a little more knowledgable than BB, but not by much. The downside to CC is they push the extended warrenties hard.

I've come to the realization that anybody who makes $10 an hour will not give a crap where I spend thousands of dollars or if I make a good purchase. I do my own research, and then find the best price and best service.

60000 is calculated at 27yrs according to national average tv use (which is 6hrs a day.)

How many people do you know that are still watching the same TV that they bought in 1980?? Man, I don't even think we had our first converter box in the house in 1980.

You are in the Display Devices section of the avsforum. A lot of us are videophiles. That doesn't mean that we don't have lives or don't get out of the house to do things. I go out on the weekends, but during the week I am usually exhausted from work. It's really nice to come home and watch a game, some of my programs on my DVR or pop in a movie. I'm not going to lie, I watch a considerable amount of television. This forum doesn't need arrogant posters like yourself spewing close minded comments. Too bad there isn't a teen chat section in the avsforum...judging from your behavior, you would blend right in.

I said i overheard them, i didn't say i believed them

Yeah i was just commenting on the things people hear, and how people believe it as fact. The BB saleskids were indeed trying to steer those folks to LCD TVs - in the same breath they told these poor folks that LCDs on the other hand last 60,000 hours. I set a few of em straight. One time a Time Warner Cable representative approached me and also told me that Plasmas only last 30,000 hours while LCDs last 60,000 hours. I told that ******* off and told him to stick to cable questions, and i complained to the manager that their salesmen and that TWC idiot are telling customers false information, and why is the TWC dude giving out TV advice in the first place? He didn't seem to give a damn. Nobody gives a damn. Except the fine folks on this forum

For most people on these boards, who are TV enthusiasts, the longevity of their TV is not a big issue as they expect to upgrade fairly often. But many other people do indeed use their TVs for a very long time.

My bedroom TV is a 26" Magnavox that I bought in 1987, and you know what - it still puts out a darned nice picture. And I expect it will continue to get use for a while to come, probably in my daughter's bedroom once I get me one of them there 8G Pioneers, and do the resulting "TV shuffle."

You had a TV in your dorm room? S**t, we didn't have a TV in the whole dorm. You must be a youngster! Of course I walked 3 miles to school in the Wisconsin snow too. Lew

Well said. It's amazing how many rude people lurk these forums. It's a shame that we practically have to babysit them..

Longevity is a selling issue for most people. There is a big difference between a plasma that makes it 10,000 hours and one that makes it 50,000 hours. Most people do not buy with a plan of upgrading in a year or two. Everyone I know buys a television and plans on keeping it forever. If a newer or bigger television is purchased, then the older television gets moved to a bedroom or a basement or a gameroom. I don't plan on selling my 50" Panasonic even if I buy a 65" 1080p Panasonic in the future. I want my 50" to last as long as possible.

With advancements in technology coming so fast these days, I see people upgrading for no reason other than to be up to date. An average lifespan of 27yrs would seem to be more than sufficient, at 120,000 hours I'd be close to dead! (and I'm still young!) Hell at 120,000, the TV might outlive me.