Close Encounters of the Third Kind - Page 14

I consider the SE way best. I still can't fathom not liking this film. Ranks up there with the best of the best for most all people.

Noise?? You have got to post chapter / time stamps please.


The only thing I seen that could be called noise is low level lighted background walls. Which is starting to seem typical of HDM in general, Blu-ray in particulat.

I think that those of "us" that were around at the time that 'Jaws,' 'Close Encounters,' and 'Star Wars' first came out can appreciate those films more than these younger people since they grew up watching mainly computer graphics and MTV.

There's no way in hell that "Signs" is a better movie than "Close Encounters."

Reminds me of all the 300 complaints. Can't say I'm surprised. There are a lot of *new* hi def owners that are quite young with limited experience re: film and filmmaking.

27 is still young and probably does enforce the point of the poster that asked the age I suppose.

I have shown this one to some young people from time to time and in general still get better than a 98% approval rating.

So is anyone else having problems with WinDVD 8 LE not wanting to play the movie disk?

It will play the Extras disk (Disk 2) as it should. But when I try to get it to play the movie disk (Disk 1 with the 3 versions) it just goes black. I can't bring up a menu, or Chapter select, or anything. The video screen goes black and the disk stops spinning.

I don't think age has anything to do with it. I just turned 21 and I love film grain and cannot stand DNR/EE/Compression artifacts.

+ it's speilberg.. i mean the just name ... THE NAME that grain hater should HATE! ... Personnally give me a DNR Free, EE Free transfert and i'am happy

I never understood that. Having the sharpness all the way down defeats the purpose of HD, IMO. To my eyes, that way makes it look blurry. I understand having the sharpness all the way up can show up the grain of the movie but it will depend on the source. I want to see the crystal clear detail of skin pores and stubble! I was also very dissapointed in CE3K. I've seen it many times just not recently. The pq looked great in daylight shots but horrendous in night shots. Almost unwatchable. The movie itself, didn't hold up for me. Started to get bored and I love Spielberg's movies. Not sure what happened. Maybe the PQ was too distracting. For the record, I am 40.

This seems to vary by TV. On some, turning the sharpness to "0" is correct, while on others, I have seen a look where it appears to actually be going into "negative" territory -- they start rolling off the high end to soften the picture. Definitely not a "one size fits all" parameter.

I think the transfer is true to the source. This is a film from 1977 and not 2007. It has quite some grain, it looks overall mostly fuzzy compared to today's films. It uses lenses that half of the time make the top and bottom very blurry and only the middle part sharp. I found that rather distracting. But that's the original photography. It is what it is.

You are seing film grain. If you don't like it use the noise reduction of the player/display. The disc must show what the film looks like, not what what you want it to look like. Complaints like yours only promote DNR on the disc which destroys any authentic film look and THIS is completely unacceptable to anyone who wants to see films as they were made.

Anyone get a little speaker popping on the theatrical cut when their eating dinner?. It comes from the fronts and center.

Does it only happen while eating dinner? Haven't tried it that way but I thought I heard something while I was in the shower.

I will check it out again tonight and let you know at what time you hear it but it is when their eating dinner or whatever time of day it was. It's actually more like little static pops. There was alot of silence while they were eating.

Whats up with the crappy 5 minute loading screen (not really)

Still if this is what it is going to require to watch a Blu-Ray movie like the LOTR movies they need to fix it. I shoul dnot have to sit and looka t a freaking loading screen as if this were a PS1 or Ps2 game!

Otherwise the movie looked ok. I love the movie though LUV IT!

All depends on the quality of the education. My daughter is 14 and is very knowledgeable going back as far as Hitchcock. She has parents and a teacher who are into old movies. My high school English teacher way back when used to show us John Ford Westerns. Then I have 18 year old employees who have never heard of Christmas Vacation.

Finally watched CE3K.

1) Mind boggling packing
2) Decent movie though boring at times
3) Stunning PQ considering the movie's age except for the final act. Some scenes put recent HDM movies to shame.

Bravo Sony Bravo.

I purchased a copy of Close Encounters on Blu-Ray and it just terrible. Noise in picture, grainy picture. Pretty lousy. My only assumption is that it was taken from a 480i source and up converted to 1080p.

Can one pretty much assume if it does say remastered that you are getting an up converted version of the movie?

Hard to believe that a studio would not go back to the original film stock when releasing something in Blu-Ray.

I sure don't remember the original film release looking as bad as this one looks.

Thanks.

The movie has always been this grainy. A fullscale restoration was done and that is simply what the movie looks like. I doubt the movie could ever look much better, no matter how much more work was done on it.

It definitely was not an upscale from a 480 line resolution master. That would not result in grain - that would result in aliasing and nonexistent fine detail.

The movie is from 30 years ago, its not going to look as pristine as newly released movies.

You must not have a PS3. Load times on for the menu are like 5 seconds for me on my PS3, if that long. What needs to be fixed is the hardware manufacturers not being so cheap by putting chipsets in them that your free cellphone would laugh at (not really...but close).

And once and for all, this movie looks fantabulastic on BD considering the age of the elements and if you don't agree please go back to your vcr/13" TV combo and leave this forum alone.

Looked great to me.

Sorry to resurrect an almost dead thread...

Is the blu-ray worth it on this release? Is the lossless audio worth the upgrade? I have the 2001 2 disc collector's edition DVD, and the audio on that has always been pretty good.

Also, it's funny to look back and see so many people complained about the grain in this movie, and now, a few new catalog releases with the grain removed have caused such an uprising from the AVS community. I'm sure they could've made a Richard Dreyfuss wax figure if they wanted to...

Well there is more grain in the blu-ray than there is in the laserdisk, which seems odd. Surely LD could reproduce grain just as easily, so where did the extra grain come from?

I'd prefer grain over "cleaned up" though. Just not more grain than what was there was in the first place.

What? Laserdisc, which is a very low resolution medium (lower than DVD, but better than broadcast TV), is not going to reproduce grain well at all. Much of what we see in DVD and interpret as grain, is a byproduct of the compression process. Since LD used an uncompressed signal we don't see the DVD pseudo grain there.

Vern

I have done photography for years using both film and digital. I have warched Close Encounters of the Third Kind and Steven Spielberg has done a wonderful job approving this Blu-ray release. The picture is a true representation of the characteristics of film at the time.

I want my Blu-ray releases to be the best representation of the original negatives as possible. With all the grain remaining, not smoothed over to please some.

Film has grain. The entire picture is made up of grain. Film does not look like digital. If you want your discs to look grainless then go buy box sets of TV sitcoms.

It is not noise but film grain. Noise is a problem with digital cameras.

Modern film has better color and much finer grain than the film that was available when CE3 was shot that is why new movies released on Blu-ray are mostly free of grain. Also on some Blu-ray releases the grain has been smoothed over but unfortunately also removes fine detail and gives the image a plastic look. Fortunately this was not done with CE3.

Close Encounters is WELL worth the purchase.

Anyone with the ability to play the full DTS-HD MA track hear a mild distortion of the music during the end credits as the mothership is rising in the sky? It has been a couple of months, but I think it was in a rear channel, not the front or center speakers.