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post #61 of 1323
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Originally Posted by DigitalfreakNYC View Post

I'm a HUGE fan of this film and I'm a fan of movie-making. If that makes me an "extras" fan, so be it.

Well I certainly wasn't aware that you were a huge fan of this particular film. I am aware of your countless posts complaining about discs lacking extras so I made a leap. Can you forgive me?

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Obviously everyone who is complaining is only a casual fan of it. To everyone else, this is a wet dream.

I can't speak for the others but yeah I admit to being a casual fan of the film. For the record though my wet dream doesn't involve any film, but rather Kate Beckinsale.
post #62 of 1323
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I can't speak for the others but yeah I admit to being a casual fan of the film. For the record though my wet dream doesn't involve any film, but rather Kate Beckinsale.

how about kate...wrapped in chocolate film?
post #63 of 1323
Wow! I can't wait! I want the big fancy box with all the extras!

I saw Blade Runner the first day it was in theaters (I also saw Tron right after, they both were released the same day). I have owned copies on Laser Disc and it was the first DVD I bought. I hope I can see the theatrical release in NYC too! Where can I preorder?
post #64 of 1323
It's going to be at ZIEGFELD in DLP for whoever lives in NYC.
post #65 of 1323
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Originally Posted by paul nyc View Post

It's going to be at ZIEGFELD in DLP for whoever lives in NYC.

????????????????????????

WHAT!?!?! This is getting a theatrical re-release???
post #66 of 1323
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Originally Posted by thedeskE View Post

Did you miss this news? 3 month restore/remix/add elements on a fancy mix desk. In the hands of Charlie & Ridley for the final cut - Yum!

If they're handing these guys a brand new Fat Mix, you gotta think it will be at least a DTS HD/MA. Remember, this is Charlie's Master Thesis. Expect no less than the best available audio.

Wow... I did not know about this. It sounds (LOL) very exciting.

Don't get me wrong - I'm all for the highest possible sound quaility. It was just hard to imagine Blade Runner's bland stereo audio improving to the point where anything more than DD (Plus?) would even matter. But I'd love to be wrong.

Someone did point out that we have a lot of details, but we don't have the official specifications yet (I don't think...) so maybe we *will* get a lossless track. On the other hand, given that there will be 3 versions of the movie on the same disc, maybe it will be just old school DD.

With all of the effort and care they've put into this release, I hope Warner uses the full 50 GB capacity of the BD disc, instead of taking the easy way out and using the same data for the HD-DVD & BD versions. That would be a shame.

Of course, then they could sell us the "This Time We Really Mean It Way Beyond Ultimate Version" in 2 years. Sigh
post #67 of 1323
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Originally Posted by DigitalfreakNYC View Post

Obviously everyone who is complaining is only a casual fan of it.

********!!! So if we just want to own a single disc version that makes makes us only a "casual fan"? Well, you are certainly who Warner is marketing this set to. I want to own a single disc copy, and I'm sure there are a lot more of us than there are of people who are willing to shell out $100 for a 5 disc set.
post #68 of 1323
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Originally Posted by DaveFi View Post

********!!! So if we just want to own a single disc version that makes makes us only a "casual fan"? Well, you are certainly who Warner is marketing this set to. I want to own a single disc copy, and I'm sure there are a lot more of us than there are of people who are willing to shell out $100 for a 5 disc set.

Yes, I am definitely who WB is marketing this set to.

And yes, that does make you a casual fan.

The real fans have already spent $90 on the Criterion release.
post #69 of 1323
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********!!! So if we just want to own a single disc version that makes makes us only a "casual fan"? Well, you are certainly who Warner is marketing this set to. I want to own a single disc copy, and I'm sure there are a lot more of us than there are of people who are willing to shell out $100 for a 5 disc set.

wah wah wah... yeah, actually, it does make you a casual fan. anything other than a casual fan would realize the 5-disc edition is essential. there will be a 2-disc edition available on DVD for less than $20. i'm a big fan and i'll be buying the 5-disc edition because any less is out of the question, no matter the price. if you're not interested in the extra content, surely you can live with the 2-disc DVD edition for now.

maybe the only crime warner is guilty of is assuming a demographic who pays hundreds of dollars for cutting-edge hardware is willing to shell out $50 more for a top-shelf treatment of a classic film. that those people won't spend hundreds of dollars for an HD or BR player then turn around and whine about having to spend a few extra bucks for a major release.

oh sure, you could say "well, i want HD but i'm not interested in extras." ok, fair enough. but you're not nearly a big enough market to matter, even to studios that choose to cater to enthusiasts.
post #70 of 1323
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Originally Posted by MrGonk View Post

wah wah wah... yeah, actually, it does make you a casual fan. anything other than a casual fan would realize the 5-disc edition is essential. there will be a 2-disc edition available on DVD for less than $20. i'm a big fan and i'll be buying the 5-disc edition because any less is out of the question, no matter the price. if you're not interested in the extra content, surely you can live with the 2-disc DVD edition for now.

maybe the only crime warner is guilty of is assuming a demographic who pays hundreds of dollars for cutting-edge hardware is willing to shell out $50 more for a top-shelf treatment of a classic film. that those people won't spend hundreds of dollars for an HD or BR player then turn around and whine about having to spend a few extra bucks for a major release.

oh sure, you could say "well, i want HD but i'm not interested in extras." ok, fair enough. but you're not nearly a big enough market to matter, even to studios that choose to cater to enthusiasts.

Good grief!! What a bunch of snobs. I couldn't possibly be a fan if I don't want to shell out $100 or more for a movie I want to own on HD. If you're willing to take what Warner gives you, Good for you. I fear we'll be getting more big premium sets like this in the future where you won't have the choice to have the movie only.
post #71 of 1323
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The real fans have already spent $90 on the Criterion release.

$90?!?!?! You must've found it on sale!!!

I agree that they should offer a single disc edition of the Final Cut in HD, it only makes sense, that is the new version that they're promoting. I do actually think it will happen at a later time as others have said.

Usually I'm not too big on extras, but the big exception to the rule is where different versions of the film are involved. I don't NEED the American theatrical release and the 1992 DC version, but I'm glad to have them. All the other versions are MUST haves for me though and overall I'm glad to be getting every version in one definitive set. I don't forsee any need to ever buy a copy of Blade Runner again after this release.
post #72 of 1323
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Originally Posted by DaveFi View Post

Good grief!! What a bunch of snobs. I couldn't possibly be a fan if I don't want to shell out $100 or more for a movie I want to own on HD. If you're willing to take what Warner gives you, Good for you. I fear we'll be getting more big premium sets like this in the future where you won't have the choice to have the movie only.


true. While I indeed will most likely spring for the 5 disc BD, I hate that I HAVE to and don't get a choice. So what if there are casual fans and hardcore fans? That's why just like with the SDdvd there should be a movie only or a 2 disc release . Why alienate the "casual fans" at all...? Not everyone wants or needs 3 (4 if you include the workprint...) different versions of the same film.
post #73 of 1323
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Originally Posted by Dave Mack View Post

true. While I indeed will most likely spring for the 5 disc BD, I hate that I HAVE to and don't get a choice. So what if there are casual fans and hardcore fans? That's why just like with the SDdvd there should be a movie only or a 2 disc release . Why alienate the "casual fans" at all...? Not everyone wants or needs 3 (4 if you include the workprint...) different versions of the same film.

I think there may be a fifth, the "International Theatrical" version included. This is in some ways the most important day and date yet on HDM, the definitive release of a true classic, so considering the market segment Blu-ray is in I'm not surprised they gave us 2 SKUs- at least content-wise they're the same, just with extra extras or not, after all, they wouldn't want to leave money on the table by not giving HD buyers the option.

Few movies have this kind of cult following, or this many notable versions. I'll be really glad if they do this one right.
post #74 of 1323
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Originally Posted by JBlacklow View Post

Apparently Warner will get "Batman Begins" out on BD by Xmas no matter what, and possibly "V for Vendetta" as well.

Thank God....and frickin' LOSSLESS too!
post #75 of 1323
There are plenty of people (like me) who are enthusiastic fans of this movie. It's Warner's most requested title to be given the Special Edition treatment.

The people who love the film would have been angry if it came with any less than the 5-Disc version does.

If the film isn't that big of a deal to you, and you want a smaller/cheaper high-def disc, then Warner will have a something for you later and it should be easy enough for you to wait (or rent).

The rest of us will be happy to pre-order either of the big, expensive BD versions.
post #76 of 1323
For the life of me, I can't figure out why we NEED 5 BD disks...
IMO, one BD50 with seamless branching for the 3 versions and a TrueHD track.
And one BD50 for extras.
That equals 2 disks.

OK, where is my math wrong?
post #77 of 1323
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Originally Posted by oink View Post

For the life of me, I can't figure out why we NEED 5 BD disks...
IMO, one BD50 with seamless branching for the 3 versions and a TrueHD track.
And one BD50 for extras.
That equals 2 disks.

OK, where is my math wrong?

The workprint can't be branched in - it's from a totally different master. Probably the other four could be done in one, as presumably they're all recreated from the new master. The extras are probably on BD25 to match SD so it doesn't look like they're getting more discs for less money.

Any guesses on the BD and BD/Briefcase SRPs?
post #78 of 1323
I love this film, one of my favorite ever.
But Im not sure I need 4 versions of it haha.

Question, do the other versions have the same restoration of the new release? Or is it sorta like the "Original Star Wars" barebones crappy transfer, while the new versions look great, but with maybe like walkie talkies instead of guns?
post #79 of 1323
oooh!

If Ridley had "politically corrected" BR, what would he change...?



I just hope they finally fix the audio sync issue when Deckard grills the guy about the snake...
post #80 of 1323
I'm a hardcore fan of this movie and would never even consider buying anything other than the 5 disc Deckert briefcase version. If you want the single version so bad I'm sure someone will break up the set and sell it as parts on ebay.

Until then if your whining about the 5 disc set you are casual about this movie and should be ok for the 2 disc DVD version or just wait for the single version to come out.

See if your a huge fan of the movie you wouldn't be complaining about this awesome boxset, if your not a huge fan you shouldn't care enough and should just wait for a single release or buy the DVD set.

I applaud WB for bringing this and the Kubrick series out in grand fashion. This is the way classic movies should be relased.
post #81 of 1323
yes, it's being released theatrically. NY/LA in OCT.

From the press release:

A showcase theatrical run is also being planned for New York and Los Angeles October 5.
post #82 of 1323
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Good grief!! What a bunch of snobs. I couldn't possibly be a fan if I don't want to shell out $100 or more for a movie I want to own on HD. If you're willing to take what Warner gives you, Good for you. I fear we'll be getting more big premium sets like this in the future where you won't have the choice to have the movie only.

Trust me, I'm sure they'll put out a single- or double-disc edition in the (probably near-ish) future. After what Warner must've paid to get the rights to all of this material, they're going to double and triple and quadruple dip like they're Jerry Seinfeld. There will be eight million different offerings of this in the future, particularly as BR and/or HD-DVD becomes more popular and less expensive.

Right now they know they're not going to sell a lot of HD/BR discs (compared to the number of DVDs they're going to sell) so they're not going to blow up their overhead by offering all the different versions for retailers to stock - especially when those retailers are already pissed about having to stock both Blu-Ray and HD-DVD when they'd rather stock only one or neither. Can you imagine all four editions being offered on BR/HD-DVD? They'd have to stock TWELVE different versions of the release, EIGHT of which would be for low-selling HD formats.

Right now they've got the HD-DVD/BR markets pegged as high-end, because, well, people who spend like $700 on optical disc hardware overwhelmingly tend to buy high-end. So of course they're only going to bother offering the mega explosive huge edition. They're not going to offer all of them, and as we all learned from Superman, if they offered anything less than the best one, everybody would bitch about that too.

By that same token, though, as BR/HD-DVD becomes more mainstream, it'll make more sense over time to market a $20 version of the Blade Runner release on at least one of those formats.

Besides... who doesn't want a Blade Runner-themed briefcase? It's good for home AND the office. Imagine the expressions of envy and astonishment in your coworkers' faces when you start rockin' your own Voight-Kampf machine.

With snobbery,
Dan
post #83 of 1323
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Originally Posted by paul nyc View Post

yes, it's being released theatrically. NY/LA in OCT.

From the press release:

A showcase theatrical run is also being planned for New York and Los Angeles October 5.

Yeah, it would be nice if they show it in other places as well! I would love to catch this in a theater.
post #84 of 1323
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Originally Posted by joekun View Post

$90?!?!?! You must've found it on sale!!!

Ken Crane's Laserdisc, baby. It was $89.99. I think i was a sophomore in high school. Can't remember.

I bought this movie twice on laserdisc, 3 times (i think) on vhs, and once on DVD. Hell, I even paid for a bootleg of the workprint from the person who videotaped it.
post #85 of 1323
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Originally Posted by DigitalfreakNYC View Post

Hell, I even paid for a bootleg of the workprint from the person who videotaped it.

Me too!
post #86 of 1323
I am so glad to finally see this movie re-released. I have been following (for about 10yrs ) the rumor of a re-release through brmovie, 2019, offworld sites for any little bit of info.

I for sure am one of the ones that will be getting the HD version w/case! Also like many of you, have collected over the years different versions of BR (ORG, Directors Cut, International Cut, Work Print) and even spent a year seaching for all the music to complete a sound track of BR . I had done this about 15 yrs ago before the NET really blew up. So no google or MSN search. But was able to find a lot of Vangelis's through various groups on the net.

All I need now is to find a site that is taking pre-orders for the HD version with case and I am set. If any of you find a site please post. Thank you.
post #87 of 1323
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Originally Posted by MrGonk View Post

wah wah wah... yeah, actually, it does make you a casual fan. anything other than a casual fan would realize the 5-disc edition is essential.

You guys are wrong. For instance, my favorite movie ever is GoodFellas and let me tell you I love the hell out of that movie. I've seen it a couple dozen times. I am perfectly content with my 1 disc BD of it. The only way I'll ever buy it again is if it gets restored. The movie itself is perfect and no amount of supplemental features is going to make me enjoy it any more than I already do.
post #88 of 1323
it's not the supplemental features that do it, though. it's the workprint. i've been waiting for 10 years for an opportunity to see the workprint. they're going to make me buy the $80 version to get that fifth disc with the workprint on it, and i'll do it because i'm a big fan of the movie, not because i'm captain moneybags. my assertion is that anyone who is more than just a casual fan is frothing at the mouth for that fifth disc because that cut of the film is on it. if you're not, you either don't know about the workprint cut and its significance or you don't care. either way, you're a casual fan.
post #89 of 1323
"The movie itself is perfect and no amount of supplemental features is going to make me enjoy it any more than I already do."

Good Fella's is one of my favorites to but Blade Runner is a whole different issue. Good Fellas does not have several different version of the movie that are VERY different floating around, Casino also got decent DVD treatment, Blade runner for most of DVD's life had a horrible DVD transfer like look as good as typical VHS and it wasn't even true widescreen.

One of the main reasons for so many discs is all the different versions of the movie, take those away and you have a 3 disc set at most and probably only a 2 disc set. Also because of the story line EACH version of the film becomes significant in letting us understand the entire story that Scott was trying to give us which deviates form the book alot.


Also they went all out doing the Final cut version, re shooting some scenes which made the movie look pretty bad with a horrid stunt double. And to include a full workprint of a movie like this is pretty much un heard of and very cool for them to give us insight into a really rough version of the movie.

I'm really happy WB went all out on this release, it is well deserved.
post #90 of 1323
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Originally Posted by MrGonk View Post

it's not the supplemental features that do it, though. it's the workprint. i've been waiting for 10 years for an opportunity to see the workprint. they're going to make me buy the $80 version to get that fifth disc with the workprint on it, and i'll do it because i'm a big fan of the movie, not because i'm captain moneybags. my assertion is that anyone who is more than just a casual fan is frothing at the mouth for that fifth disc because that cut of the film is on it. if you're not, you either don't know about the workprint cut and its significance or you don't care. either way, you're a casual fan.


Remind me why it's so terrible to be a casual fan?
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