Originally Posted by Grandarf
Did you read that correctly? He's not saying that NHT's mid driver was better by a significant amount, he's saying that PERHAPS it was, and if it was, it was NOT by a a SIGNIFICANT amount. Are we both reading english here?
No, I think you're struggling with the English for some reason. Most good speakers are only better than another speaker by a little bit. Of course, what is "insignificant" to one person is "huge" to another person.
What happened to the 2 way can't do mids and bass as well, can't image as well, blah blah blah
I never said that, only that they have a hard time doing all of it as well as a 3-way at the same time.
Again, a 5.25 mid woofer having a fuller sound than the C3's 6.5 inch? UNpossible!
It all depends on how you tune it.
omg, preferring a soft dome to NHT's aluminum tweeter?! BLASPHEMY!
Preference is one thing, but I haven't heard a single soft dome that is as good as the affordable tweeter on an NHT or PSB, let alone something more exotic. At least, so far. Cymbals are actually supposed to go "ding, ding, ding" not "pthing, pthing, pthing"
Impossible! NHT's is a 3 way, with a sealed design and aluminum tweeter! It's a marvel of engineering! 3 way! Sealed! Aluminum drivers! Like the 50000$ BW Nautilus! How could a puny 2 way ported with soft dome do anything like that!
You can still get good sound from a less exotic design. I would bet that he would like the Era D5s better than the Threes as well as they are very similar in design to the Sierra, but I wouldn't. The Era is a great *sounding* speaker, but the Three is more faithful. But that's why there are different designs, to achieve different effects.
Which was what? That 2 way > 3 way, ported < sealed and alu tweet > soft dome? That people don't know how to listen? That NHT is the best? What was your original point exactly?
My original point remains, that subjective opinions on the internet are meaningless unless they're very specific and have some general agreement. And that you have to listen for yourself to know what you're like. I'm sorry you can't understand that after about the 10th time I've said it.
I just want to reiterate this as it's so ironic coming from you (and NHT). I think what's wrong with audio is that so many people *desperately* want to believe that one company has all the answers and all the rest are full of it.
I like good design. I also don't like soft dome tweeters as they are euphonic at best and ugly sounding at worst. I also prefer acoustic suspension/sealed speakers because I don't like the sound of ports. Push a ported speaker, especially a small one and you're going to hear noise you won't hear out of a sealed speaker. In any case, Revel, Vivid Audio, etc. I don't like 95% of B&W speakers much at all, but the original Nautilus was state of the art in design. If I had to pick the best overall designed analog speaker on the market, it would have to be the new Revel Studio2. But you can't have that for anything close to $700/pr.
Besides, you can ask NHT how much I "worship" them. If I don't like a product's design, I won't sell it, such as the SC1 and SC2 centers, unless I get an irresistible deal I can pass on. I constantly complain about their ported subs and push them to move to all sealed models. The soft tweeter on the Verve speakers doesn't sound that good to me. I grumble that the Four has a ported woofer. I was probably the first dealer to bitch a little about the Threes and nitpick them.
I think it's beautiful. It almost seems like there was some account hijacking lately. PULLIAMM ditched his BW 705s for monitors which costs a fraction of the 705's... Wow! Alimental saying that he thinks that what is wrong with audio is that so many *desperately* want to believe that one company has all the answers and the rest are full of it...
Pulliamm could be learning something. And I don't do hero worship. I do get close to it if the product itself is truly well engineered though.
Actually, besides you Ali... I couldn't think of many who would fit that profile. A LOT of companies do good engineering and a lot are making a lot of sense too, not just NHT.
I beg to differ. Most speakers are pretty piss poor in design and are designed to make them easy to get past your wife, not past your ears. And NHT very well knows that I wouldn't be dealer if at least half their products weren't exceptional and out of the ordinary. But even if you build an exceptional product, not everyone likes it. There are two different reactions to the Three - either it's the best bookshelf they've ever heard under a very large sum of money or "eh, I don't get it". The fact that opinions on high-end is never universal and often *opposite* is why you should only care about what your ears tell you.