The "Official" Denon 4308ci Owners Thread - Page 99

it sounds better than without it, i can tell you that. i have a pioneer vsx 56 txi, and i thought it did a great job. you can go into the advanced settings and control reverb (i have a live room). it sent a lot more test tones and took a lot longer, but they both work fine.

Very strange and honestly in the time that I have had this receiver, I have not ever had so many problems trying to upgrade the firmware. Granted, there have not been that many updates, but none of the suggested solutions have worked for my receiver. After the unit finishes rebooting, it tries to install the update, but keeps failing. As I mentioned before, then will unplug the receiver or try to hard reset and it just keeps failing. It won't let me perform any other functions, even after a reboot or unplugging the unit. Geez...

Did you follow the procedure I posted exactly? What are the messages reported on the front panel? What is the IP address listed in network settings after following this procedure?

If you can't get to network settings after following the procedure then what IP is assigned to the receiver from your DHCP server? Can you ping this IP address from a PC?

You might also simply try to power cycle the receiver (small power button) until the update goes through when getting the update failed message on the receiver front panel. Some people are able to get the update completed this way. Be patient between power cycles and don't power cycle if it's doing the update.

If still doesn't complete try the update from an Internet connection other then yours.

captavs, thanks for your input and patience. I will try again this weekend. I did follow your instructions, as I had my laptop sitting next to me and went step by step as you advised. I finally gave up for the night and unplugged the receiver. I plan on trying again this weekend and I will let y'all know the results.

How do you increase the Treble on Zone 1????There's got to be a way!....


Thanks!

Has anyone who updated their firmware noticed their subwoofer quit working? I updated firmware last week and noticed no sound from sub (velodyne in wall with seperate amp) that had been working perfectly before. When I ran the Velodyne auto eq which is sub's own version of Audyssey the sub works fine. If Velodyne amp and speaker work then only other thing i can think is it isn't getting LFE from Denon. When I run test tones from Denon I get nothing. Anyone noticed this too?

I haven't heard that, and I keep pretty up on PS3 news. All indications point to the fact the HDMI transmitter in the PS3 can't do it. The mfg allegedly even confirmed it.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=946095

Hi Experts:

I have a new Sharp LC 65SE94U with 1080p/24.

I also have cable box (cox) HD/DVR with both component and HDMI 1080i outputs. I can output on both outputs concurrently, e.g. cable HDMI to AVR then to TV HDMI input, cable HD component direct to TV component input if desired (thus bypassing AVR).

I do not know if the Sharp 65SE94U deinterlaces (scales) the 1080i cable output to 1080p or if it does it well. Tech support at Sharp is unclear. Does anyone know this answer?

Can I use the Denon 4308CI to deinterlace the 1080i signal to 1080p to get a better picture? If so, is the 4308ci converted 1080p video ok or is there another AVR better at doing this? Or???

Thanks!

Thanks to Kevin and the guys at 6ave! got it in ONE day from NJ to NYC. Working on setting this baby up throughout the weekend..

Use to have pioneer nnow have Denon. Was easy with Pioneer to go to Pro Logic, THX, Dolby , etc..I am having a hard time getting anything but the basic surrounds (sports, tchannels, wide,etc) with this new Denon. Any help with the baics?????????????

Greetings all

I have two new problems. I lost my on screen display the other day. It just stopped working. I went thru the manual and can not find out how to get it back.

Problem number two

I have lost my surround sound on TV only. It works when I play a dvd ro blu-ray

My set up is as follows

TV - mits 65803
Denon 4308
PS3
DirectTV DVR highdef

I have everything hooked up with HDMI. When I play a dvd i get surround sound fine. When I listen to a channel using directv and it will show on the display on the denon that it is playing surround sound but it is only playing stereo.

Any help you can give me would be great

thanks
trent

Greetings all my TV is a MITS 65833 left out a 3

thanks
trent

I have had a couple of days with my new 4308. I finally got it sounding pretty good, but the video completely sucks. I had my PS3 and cable connected via HDMI directly to my TV before and the picture was amazing on my Sony KDS-55A3000. Now there are artifacts and bluriness. I didn't expect my pciture quality to be any better, but I didn't think the Denon would be a detriment. Am I missing something? What are the optimal HDMI settings on the Denon? I just want to connect my video sources directly to my TV, but after spending so much money on the receiver, I would like to use the video functions. Any ideas?

Sorry if this has already been asked...I just did the auto cal on my new, completely firmware upgraded 4308, twice now.

Before cal - Sounded great just not set up.

After cal - Rears WAY over driven...even at low vol, even with rears turned down in manual setings. Almost no front channels and very low center channel. But hey, at least the subs sound good.

I have worked in the industry for 15 years (out now for 2) and have never been so perplexed by a set up problem. All speakers sound great in 5 ch stereo, but when playing Twister (BD, Dolby Dig) or Golden Compas (BD, DTS HD) the soud is atrocious.

Is there a way to reset the rcvr to factory spec?

And what could I possibly be doing wrong?

There have been problems with the Golden Compass disc that sound like yours. Try a different movie first.

I have news for YOU. The 4308/3808 has been able to decode ALL the new audio high definition formats up to and including TrueHD and DTS-HD, MA (via bitstream from a player that can send those formats to the 4308/3808) since day one of its birth.

http://usa.denon.com/ProductDetails/3494.asp

No need for buyer's remorse. Your 4308 is not obsolete (yet). From what I have read so far, the 4308/3808's have all the "new" features of the 2809, etc., with the exception of Dynamic Audio. As more information comes out maybe there are some other "features" that have been added to the 2809, etc.

I am hoping that through a firmware update the 4308/3808 will have Dynamic Audio as a feature. In the "Audyssey" forum, the gurus are not letting out if or how any new features of the 2809, etc. will be added to the 4308/3808. Somebody even suggested that any new "features" added can be purchased from Denon sometime in the future. That would be a bummer, having to buy features available on newer but less expensive receivers! Whatever!

Your 4308 fully decodes TrueHD and DTS-MA. The only requirement needed is a player (or other device inputting audio to the receiver) that can send the high definition audio formats to the receiver by HDMI via bitstream. A few of these are the LG BH200, Samsung BD-P1400, and the Toshiba HD-XA2. I knew that there are others with this cabability.

Rejoice! You have an excellent AVR!

Let's not guess. Let's check facts first.

The PS3 does NOT bitstream the newer lossless audio formats. It's a well known fact.

And I have news for YOU. You didn't read what the poster you referred to said. He said the PS3 cannot bitstream the new lossless codecs. And that is true. It had nothing to do with the receiver.

Quote: "I have news for you, your 4308 isn't decoding the DTS-HD either."

I QUOTED what he said. Reread his post. Looks like you didn't read what the poster said ... duh... Lots of news, eh?

Just disable all video processing. I'm running my PS3, HD DVR, Xbox 360 all through my 4308 with no degradation in the picture. The 4308 is not recognized as having good video processing abilities.

Frank. Take a deep breath and just stop. You're trying to stir up crap over nothing. He was right when he said "...your 4308 isn't decoding the DTS-HD.." It's not a lack of ability and the receiver's part, simply that the PS3 decodes it first and then sends it on. Don't get defensive and don't act like a 5 year old. No reply needed.

OK, buddy.

If you could really read and understand, you'd see that he was saying that the 4308 wasn't decoding DTS HD because it wasn't receiving the bitstream from the PS3 because the PS3 can't bitstream the advanced codecs. He *wasn't* saying that the 4308 was incapable of decoding DTS HD from a player capable of sending the bitstream.

There are probably various English courses available in your city at high schools and colleges. Perhaps even online.

Hope the day gets better for you.

Found the answer in another thread...The Denon rcvrs dont decode Golden Compass correctly in DTSHD. Apparently Denon is aware of the issue and is working on a fix for it.

It appears that the problem with twister was caused by to many Labatts

Only partly true. If the Denon is set up for 7.1, all is fine. If set for a 5.1 setup, there are problems. Go back and read more of that thread you checked.

I said I thought not i did and you do not have to be so arrogant a little common courtesy would be appreciated. the poor guy is just trying to find out. I thought that what this fourm is for.

Looks as though I will wait until the Denon support folks are back in the office tomorrow. I have attempted all weekend to get the 4308 to update the firmware, but to no avail. It appears to be working, but time remaining goes up to 9 minutes, then down to 6 minutes and points in between, before finally failing. I keep trying to figure out whether I can go back to factory settings and then maybe it will work. Resetting microprocessor, router, etc. are not viable options. It definitely has an ip address and mac address too. Thanks again for all of your valuable input.

I have never found it possible to have too many Labatts.

How do you pull up DTS on the Denon..I can get Dolby Pro Logic but I don't see any where where there is a choice of DTS or DTS-HD?
Thanks

So this has always confused me with my 4308. I have it connected to a Mits 73833 1080p set also.

Should I only enable A to H processing for my non-HDMI components? Would that allow direct through video for my PS3, Directv HR20, or anything else connected via HDMI?