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Either way works. Select the one you prefer.

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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

Either way works. Select the one you prefer.

Thanks for the reply. One more question, please. Is there a preferred method? I didn't know if one way might cause interference or tax the receiver more than the other. Thanks again.
post #5073 of 5085
Whichever you prefer. With a separate source, you don't have to remember to change the source back to HDMI.
post #5074 of 5085
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

Whichever you prefer. With a separate source, you don't have to remember to change the source back to HDMI.

Great. Thanks again for the help.
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Originally Posted by paco62 View Post

Here is my current setup:
Denon 4308ci
Denon DVD3910 (used only for CD's, SACD, High Resolution DVD Audio (192/24)
PS3: Blu Ray and games
Xbox 360: games
Boston Acoustics VR-M80's (L/R)
Boston Acoustics E70: Center
Boston Acoustics VR-M/EX Surrounds (7.1)
Velodyne SPL-1200R
Mitsubishi 65-inch Diamond Vision DLP (no plans to upgrade for several years as it works great for the amount of time we use it for movies)
Monster Power Filter

I am getting ready to purchase an Oppo 105 blu ray player to replace the PS3 and Denon DVD3910. I want to use HDMI for the 7.1 surround when playing blu rays, but utilize the analogue stereo output (w/subwoofer out) on the Oppo for Hi-resolution audio, SACD, DVD-A, etc. Is there a way to assign the input by signal type?

For example, Set the DVD input to use both the HDMI 1 input, but also the 2.1 analogue inputs (external in). It didn't appear so in the manual, but it's also a Denon manual, if you know what I mean.

I guess I could connect it to two inputs, right? Use the HDMI on the DVD setting, but then use the Analogue on the VDP input? I will run the HDMI 2 out from the Oppo directly to the monitor, so it won't be an issue of video signal. Thoughts?

There is a button on the remote called input. you may manually choose which input method for desired source. When listening to music press ext in or analog ( depends on whether you plugged in the analog or EXT in) . when watching movies you can press the input until HDMI appears and you are set to go.

all the best

Michael
post #5076 of 5085
@SoundMike - Thanks for the feedback. My Oppo is set to arrive tomorrow, so I will begin messing around with the best way to hook it up. Appreciate the tip.
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Originally Posted by vj kid View Post

Hi, recently I bought a 4308ci in mint condition and I noticed the Advanced AL24 is active at all times regardless of the input signal, unlike the 3808ci , 2809ci and 3311ci (that currently I have too) ,those models applies the processing only with a pcm signal, is there a way to deactivate the AL24 on the 4308?, or not, thanks in advance

Has to do with the fact that the Advanced AL24 processing applies to all channels...so there is never any reason for it to be de-activated.

AL24 processing plus only applies to the front 2 channels, so any time you were using it in multi channel mode it would be disabled.
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

No I am not, not to mention that the AL24 indicator was removed from the front panel display beginning with the 2012 models to include the current flagship 4520CI.
Along with many, many other things. These items were removed for cost cutting. No other reason. Has nothing to do with the importance or relevance of the items being removed. Just really anything they think they can get away with not having displayed they will. 4520 doesn't even show you which channels are being input on the front display. Really? A flagship model? Is that information not important? I happen to feel it is extraordinarily irritating having all of this info that we have grown accustomed to having on tap no longer available efficiently.
post #5079 of 5085
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This totally sucks. I'm sure this has been discussed to death but a $2K+ receiver being outdated in two years.

To be fair, any product which comes out within a year or two of a major technological advancement will seem to have been outdated in a hurry. I too own a 4308, and love it in every way, but I don't have a 3d tv much less the desire to watch 3d content so I suppose it's easier for me to swallow.
post #5080 of 5085
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Also note, the other 4308 thread you posted in you responded to a 3 year old post. eek.gif

No rules against doing so. Silly to assume he or she didn't know that already
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Originally Posted by mtbdudex View Post

I just moved my trusty 4308CI from the basement HT to the family room - since the 4520CI is now down there.
In the family room it will power my 14 year old Atlantic Technology System 350's 5.1 set-up as your basic open floor pan family room set-up.
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After I ran the Audyssey XT the front R/L came back as Large, but the trim was set at +12db.
I changed them to small and set the xover at 80hz.
The center and surrounds both came back as small with 100hz xover.

Any reason why just the front R/L would come back with trim needing that much boost?
The center and surrounds came back with trims around +3db, the sub -1db, so all the others in their position came back "normal"

The speakers are all 4ohm, and it's a know fact the Denon 4308CI does not like to drive some 4ohm speakers.
Question:
Since this is only a 5.1 set-up, I could bi-amp the fronts for more power - there are un-used amps, should I do that? Would doing that help my mains then trim closer to 0db?
The audyssey setup guide is vague on what to do when speaker trims at +12db except saying go to ask audyssey. I could do that.
Most of the time the AVR will never be listened at reference 0db, but there is that possibly once in a while......
(I set volume limit at 0db so it can never go above that)
Here is the Atlantic Technology System 350's spec sheet.

What a beautiful cabin
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Just now wanting to start listing to loss-less music files though my 4308ci. I don't have a player or a computer that can do the decoding so everything would need to go onto a flash drive, and then be plugged into the Denon via usb.

Only problem is I have no idea how to go about the process of downloading some loss-less music legally, and then getting the Denon to play it. I have never used the USB feature on the Denon before.

Can someone please give me a "loss-less music playing for dumbies" tutorial. Just enough info to get me started.

I have a Toshiba Satellite laptop, and some thumb drives.

Thanks much.
post #5083 of 5085
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Originally Posted by Peter Galbavy View Post


I agree with this bit. Stop doing it!


I want to expand on this bit. 0dB is only reference level on a Denon if you have got the newer Dynamic EQ update and you have run Audyssey setup successfully. Then, 0dB should be reference level if your trims have been adjusted by the setup process within the +-12dB tolerances...

Dynamic EQ has nothing to do with this. the receiver comes equipped with Audyssey Multi EQ XT straight out of the box. if you calibrate your speakers using the Multi EQ XT exactly the way it is without any firmware updates or new feature purchases The Audyssey program will set your levels so that zero dB is reference. Again, Dynamic EQ is something different and has nothing to do with making the AVR capable of calibrating its speakers so that zero dB becomes reference level. the stock version of Audyssey that comes with the receiver straight from the factory will do this for you. you just need to make sure that you have the Audyssey turned on.
post #5084 of 5085
In the gui, select "manual setup"
scroll down to "audio setup"
scroll down to "2ch Direct/Stereo"
set the subw. Mode to "LFE+Main"

Changing the LFE level will have no effect whatsoever on the subwoofer level when in any kind of 2 channel output mode. Why? Because when you are in 2 channel mode there is NO LFE channel being output. Remember, LFE is not another word for Subwoofer. LFE refers to a separate channel of Low Frequency Effects that may or may not be output through a subwoofer depending upon the configuration of your mains. Adjusting the LFE level will only effect the level of the Low Frequency Effects channel, but will not lower the level of crossed over material being output from the subwoofer. Anything being output from the subwoofer during 2 channel listening (with a 2 channel source) is going to be signal that is crossed over from the mains, as there is no LFE signal. This is why when listening to a 2 channel source, using NO bass management, there will be no sound output to the subwoofer. There are 2 ways include the sub to the "party" here. Either set the mains to Small, and listen in Stereo. Or, listen in a Direct mode (no bass management) and set the subwoofer mode to "LFE+Main" in your 2 channel settings. In the first example, the mains play the upper half of the crossover, and the subwoofer will output the bottom side of the crossover. In the second example, where LFE+Main is set, a full signal will be send to the mains, while the sub gets a signal that goes as high as the LPF for LFE setting is set. You can adjust the LPF for LFE using the "Advanced" selection in the crossover settings menu.
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Originally Posted by djwest78 View Post

Just now wanting to start listing to loss-less music files though my 4308ci. I don't have a player or a computer that can do the decoding so everything would need to go onto a flash drive, and then be plugged into the Denon via usb.

Only problem is I have no idea how to go about the process of downloading some loss-less music legally, and then getting the Denon to play it. I have never used the USB feature on the Denon before.

Can someone please give me a "loss-less music playing for dumbies" tutorial. Just enough info to get me started.

I have a Toshiba Satellite laptop, and some thumb drives.

Thanks much.
You can rip CDs or DVDs using your laptop, rip to .wav or better for size .flac. Drag the files to a USB stick, insert into the Denon and select NET/USB and cursor down to the tracks you want to play. The Denon will only play CD quality rips, it will not play 24/96 or higher from the USB only from HDMI (a WDLiveTV is a cheap way to play these files through your Denon)
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