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post #4261 of 5567
4/8/09 at 6:12pm
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So far COD WAW sounds pretty dang nice.

We need to play
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post #4262 of 5567
4/8/09 at 6:21pm
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Originally Posted by exojam View Post

Pepar,

Yes the first measurement was in the middle. I do not have any recent photos to show it BUT my left is further back than the right because of the shape of the room and my entertainment unit. Those measurements I believe are very close, if not spot on.

So far COD WAW sounds pretty dang nice.

James

Well, dang nice is . . dang nice!
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post #4263 of 5567
4/8/09 at 6:52pm
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Originally Posted by ZEuiax View Post

I am trying to use REON video processor of my 885 to upscale SD channels my Directv HD box. I have tried setting 885's HDMI out to 'AUTO' and 1080P but I dont see any difference in PQ. Oh and display on 885 says HDMI Trough for both SD channels and HD channels. Does anyone know how to set up video upscaling? Thank you

Are you sure the DirectTV box isn't already upscaling?

My understanding is that if you set the HDMI output on the 885 to "through" it doesn't upconvert.
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post #4264 of 5567
4/8/09 at 7:18pm
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So far COD WAW sounds pretty dang nice.

OK I'll bite, what is COD WAW?

Bill
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post #4265 of 5567
4/8/09 at 7:26pm
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OK I'll bite, what is COD WAW?

Bill

Call of Duty, World at War
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post #4266 of 5567
4/8/09 at 7:34pm
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OK I'll bite, what is COD WAW?

Bill

What!!! you aren't a gamer?

I play online sometimes still @ 40
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post #4267 of 5567
4/8/09 at 7:42pm
I feel bolted.
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post #4268 of 5567
4/8/09 at 10:09pm
I hooked up my parasound 2100 in ht bypass through the 885 from the Sony 350 in analog and I was impressed. The music I played was SO much smoother, even cd's from the 80's. I am kinda new to the way how music should sound, but I hope not to far from it. My wife says I spend too much time on these forums, but without people's input and knowledge, some of us might be lost. IMHO ,it's great when you can feel the music and it touches your soul. The 885 is great for ht and the parasound is better for music, but not as good as tubes ( audio research ) imo. I wish I had more money. When does this sickness end? Sorry for rambling.
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post #4269 of 5567
4/9/09 at 12:39am
Just watch Bolt for the second time on Blu-ray. Wouah!
Can't get those bolts out of my jaw still bolted to the floor.

Bob
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post #4270 of 5567
4/9/09 at 12:43am
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Originally Posted by aasen7 View Post

I hooked up my parasound 2100 in ht bypass through the 885 from the Sony 350 in analog and I was impressed. The music I played was SO much smoother, even cd's from the 80's. I am kinda new to the way how music should sound, but I hope not to far from it. My wife says I spend too much time on these forums, but without people's input and knowledge, some of us might be lost. IMHO ,it's great when you can feel the music and it touches your soul. The 885 is great for ht and the parasound is better for music, but not as good as tubes ( audio research ) imo. I wish I had more money. When does this sickness end? Sorry for rambling.

It never ends, that's the price for admission to our addiction.

Bob
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post #4271 of 5567
4/9/09 at 4:16am
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Originally Posted by penngray View Post

What!!! you aren't a gamer?

I play online sometimes still @ 40

No I am not a gamer and do not intend to start. If I start gaming I will never leave the house, I spend too much time as it is listening to music and movies. I need to work and keep up with the house (not lately though). I see nothing wrong with it no matter what your age is but its not for me.

Bill
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post #4272 of 5567
4/9/09 at 4:23am
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No I am not a gamer and do not intend to start. If I start gaming I will never leave the house, I spend too much time as it is listening to music and movies. I need to work and keep up with the house (not lately though). I see nothing wrong with it no matter what your age is but its not for me.

Bill

Darn good idea! I bought a PS3 to get the BD player. My latest gaming experience was Intellivision in 1979. (I'm 50.) Since I had the console, thought I would pick up Warhawk on sale for $19.95 last November. I mean, what the heck....

I'm hooked. I play with a bunch of guys I met on AVS through the "Warhawk Wednesday" thread (which has been closed by Mods.) Our clan is "The NOM Clan", and our site is http://thenomclan.forumotion.net/forum.htm.

Hundreds of hours later, well, you know the rest.

LOTS of fun, though. Best $19.95 I ever spent.

Well, there were the drinks I bought for that stewardess in Montreal in 1997. Elise, I think her name was....
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post #4273 of 5567
4/9/09 at 7:48am
Quick question about this unit. How do you connect a computer to it if you want to use the Audyssey Pro soft? I don't see a usb port.

Thanks,
SCott
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post #4274 of 5567
4/9/09 at 8:10am
There is not one.
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post #4275 of 5567
4/9/09 at 8:15am
I thought every unit that has MultEQ XT has the ability to be driven by the pro software? Also, if there any direct comparison of the 885P & 886P posted anywhere?

Thanks again, Scott
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post #4276 of 5567
4/9/09 at 8:30am
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Originally Posted by sacarmic View Post

I thought every unit that has MultEQ XT has the ability to be driven by the pro software? Also, if there any direct comparison of the 885P & 886P posted anywhere?

Thanks again, Scott

It's hooked up via serial port. The kit includes a USB-RS232 cable.
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post #4277 of 5567
4/9/09 at 9:24am
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Originally Posted by sacarmic View Post

Quick question about this unit. How do you connect a computer to it if you want to use the Audyssey Pro soft? I don't see a usb port.

Thanks,
SCott

I think that you use the RS-232C jack or the Ethernet port on the rear, cannot remember exactly. One of the two for sure. But I lean more towards the RS-232C jack. And the 885 doesn't have a USB port. The main comparison between the 885 and 886 that I saw was mainly for features. The feature's difference are mentioned a few pages back in this own very thread. Check post #4043 at page 135, and post #4106 at page 137 for few of them.
Oups! David beat me to it about the RS-232C serial port.

Bob
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post #4278 of 5567
4/9/09 at 9:29am
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Originally Posted by Lordoftherings View Post

What kind of cable are you using coming from your Directv HD box?
Check also the settings for the HDMI video input.
Look at the conversion graphs in your manual.

Pass through is only passing the video signal from it's original type of connection to the same type of connection. If you want to do upscaling of your Directv HD box through HDMI video output, using HDMI and component cables, you'll have to set your 885 to 1080p at 60hz. Set that part by pressing the HDMI button and holding it behind the flip door on the front panel of your 885. You have the choice of 24 or 60. 60 is the right one.

Bob

I am using HDMI cable to connect Directv HD box to 885. HDMI output is set to 1080P in 885 menu. I dont have a HDMI button behind the flip door but have a HDMI out, tried holding that but didnt get those 24 or 60 options.
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post #4279 of 5567
4/9/09 at 9:31am
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Originally Posted by nathan_h View Post

Are you sure the DirectTV box isn't already upscaling?

My understanding is that if you set the HDMI output on the 885 to "through" it doesn't upconvert.

HDMI ouput is set to 1080P, but display still says "CBL/SAT HDMI Through"
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post #4280 of 5567
4/9/09 at 9:34am
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Originally Posted by sacarmic View Post

I thought every unit that has MultEQ XT has the ability to be driven by the pro software? Also, if there any direct comparison of the 885P & 886P posted anywhere?

Thanks again, Scott

Look here
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...ostcount=10759
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post #4281 of 5567
4/9/09 at 9:48am
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Originally Posted by ZEuiax View Post

I am using HDMI cable to connect Directv HD box to 885. HDMI output is set to 1080P in 885 menu. I dont have a HDMI button behind the flip door but have a HDMI out, tried holding that but didnt get those 24 or 60 options.

Yes, that is the HDMI button I was referring to (HDMI out).
It should switch between the two options. It should be set to "YES".
Just press that button (HDMI out) repeatedly to choose "YES".

Bob
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post #4282 of 5567
4/9/09 at 9:54am
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Originally Posted by ZEuiax View Post

HDMI ouput is set to 1080P, but display still says "CBL/SAT HDMI Through"

In the "HDMI Monitor Setup" of your 885 manual, you will find the "HDMI Input Setup" section, where you set each source to the right connection separately.
Yours is set by default, which is "NONE". Adjust accordingly for each of your sources. It is very simple and well indicated in that section of your manual.

Cheers,

Bob
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post #4283 of 5567
4/9/09 at 10:48am
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Originally Posted by rtart View Post

Hi all, just installed my new 885, and have one issue. I use the component outputs from my Tosh HD-A35 for video and use the HDMI output for audio. The 885 apparently does not like this, and will not "allow" a picture through the A35's component video outputs.

Here's my setup: I have an NEC 10PG crt projector fed through a DVDO VP30. Because it is a legacy pj, I must use the component video outputs from the HD DVD player, PS3, etc. through the scaler for HD video. I use the HDMI inputs from the sources into my AVR for audio (gets me the hidef codecs). This works fine with my current Pio Elite AVR. When I hook up the 885, I get audio from the HD player via HDMI to the 885, but no video to the scaler from the A35 via the component outputs.

I also have no trouble getting audio (via HDMI to the 885) and video (via component via the scaler) when using my PS3 and DTV boxes. Only the HD A35 is an issue (and it worked fine using HDMI for audio and component for video with my Pio AVR.)

I tried re-setting the audio output from the A35 to PCM, but no help. I'm using the latest firmware for the A35. Also the latest firmware for the VP30.

Any ideas?

OK, so no one posted a miracle cure, so I had to find one myself :-)


Here's what happened. I called Onkyo tech support, and got little help. They basically told me it was an HDMI issue (you think?) between the A35 and the Onkyo. I told them that the A35 worked via HDMI with my current Pio Elite AVR. Didn't have much to suggest past, "It's an A35 issue."

As I thought about it for a while, it became obvious that there was something about the A35's signal that the 885 did not like. I had been through every setup menu in the A35, and in the 885, and changed anything that looked plausible. I was almost resigned to using the analog multi-inputs on the 885, using only the 5.1 outputs from the A35. Of course, I lose any benefit from Audyssey, etc. when I do that.

It seemed to me that the basic issue was the 885 was having trouble dealing with the component and HDMI inputs simultaneously. What was the disconnect with the 885 that the Pio did not have?

It occured to me that HDMI will pass 1080p/24 from the A-35, while the component outputs are limited to 1080i. HDMI version 1.1 will not pass 1080p/24, while version 1.3a will. I changed the output resolution of the A35 to "Up to 1080i" from "1080p/24" and solved my problem.

Who'da thunk it?
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post #4284 of 5567
4/9/09 at 10:49am
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Originally Posted by Lordoftherings View Post

Yes, that is the HDMI button I was referring to (HDMI out).
It should switch between the two options. It should be set to "YES".
Just press that button (HDMI out) repeatedly to choose "YES".

Bob

I got these options 'Main', 'SUB' and 'NO' when I pressed HDMI out Button.

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Originally Posted by Lordoftherings View Post

In the "HDMI Monitor Setup" of your 885 manual, you will find the "HDMI Input Setup" section, where you set each source to the right connection separately.
Yours is set by default, which is "NONE". Adjust accordingly for each of your sources. It is very simple and well indicated in that section of your manual.

Cheers,

Bob

Monitor Out = 'MAIN'
Resoultion = 1080P

HDMI Input

DVD = IN1
CBL/SAT= IN2
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post #4285 of 5567
4/9/09 at 10:55am
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Originally Posted by rtart View Post

OK, so no one posted a miracle cure, so I had to find one myself :-)


Here's what happened. I called Onkyo tech support, and got little help. They basically told me it was an HDMI issue (you think?) between the A35 and the Onkyo. I told them that the A35 worked via HDMI with my current Pio Elite AVR. Didn't have much to suggest past, "It's an A35 issue."

As I thought about it for a while, it became obvious that there was something about the A35's signal that the 885 did not like. I had been through every setup menu in the A35, and in the 885, and changed anything that looked plausible. I was almost resigned to using the analog multi-inputs on the 885, using only the 5.1 outputs from the A35. Of course, I lose any benefit from Audyssey, etc. when I do that.

It seemed to me that the basic issue was the 885 was having trouble dealing with the component and HDMI inputs simultaneously. What was the disconnect with the 885 that the Pio did not have?

It occured to me that HDMI will pass 1080p/24 from the A-35, while the component outputs are limited to 1080i. HDMI version 1.1 will not pass 1080p/24, while version 1.3a will. I changed the output resolution of the A35 to "Up to 1080i" from "1080p/24" and solved my problem.

Who'da thunk it?

The 885 is finicky, there are a lot of adjustments to be made, so that it works properly with your other components. Taking your time to read your manual helps a lot.
Your 885 and your BD35 have both to be setup to the right resolution from the HDMI connection.
Check the 885 section concerning the HDMI setup for inputs and output.

Bob
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post #4286 of 5567
4/9/09 at 11:00am
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Originally Posted by ZEuiax View Post

I got these options 'Main', 'SUB' and 'NO' when I pressed HDMI out Button.



Monitor Out = 'MAIN'
Resoultion = 1080P

HDMI Input

DVD = IN1
CBL/SAT= IN2

Yes, MAIN is the right one.
1080p is the one too.
CBL/SAT = Input #2, should be fine.

Still no picture? 24 or 60 setting? TV accept 24fps? Blu-Ray player output 24fps? Your 885 is set to receive and output 24fps? All set to 1080p?

Bob
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post #4287 of 5567
4/9/09 at 11:06am
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Originally Posted by Lordoftherings View Post

Yes, MAIN is the right one.
1080p is the one too.
CBL/SAT = Input #2, should be fine.

Still no picture? 24 or 60 setting? TV accept 24fps? Blu-Ray player output 24fps? Your 885 is set to receive and output 24fps? All set to 1080p?

Bob

I have picture but dont think 885 is upscaling my SD channels from Directv HDbox. Display on 885 says HDMI Through for both HD and SD channels. I didnt get 24 or 60 setting. My LCDTV is 1080P @ 60Hz and BD movies from PS3 looks fine.
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post #4288 of 5567
4/9/09 at 11:49am
Ok, so I'm wondering what you guys would do........

I'm thinking about an 885, but due to wifely influence, no matter if I spend $599, or $3599, my next preamp will have to remain in my rack for a long time. I've heard some mention of crushed black levels in the 885. Now I'm no videophile, but I'm wondering if I wouldn't be better off waiting until the fall and picking up an 886?
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post #4289 of 5567
4/9/09 at 1:50pm
I don't have crushed black levels in the 885, but I primarily bypass the Reon. It is inferior to what my old Sony projector does for deinterlacing 1080i signals, and what my Oppo does for DVD upscaling.
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post #4290 of 5567
4/9/09 at 2:12pm
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I wouldn't be better off waiting until the fall and picking up an 886?

Why would you wait till the fall for an 886? The refurbished 885 for $799 is a stone cold bargain unless you are a fortune teller and think the 886 will be discounted in the fall. I have heard nothing about "B" stock or refurbished 886's as they are still a very hot seller in audio boutiques and custom a/v shops at full retail. If 886's suddenly get discounted online then you can bet there is a replacement coming for dealers but nothing at all has been shown or even talked about so a fall release would be near impossible unless Onkyo is building them at Area 51.
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