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post #391 of 685
10/9/07 at 10:40am
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Originally Posted by craigsub View Post

Guys ... I just got off the phone with my Dad. He and my mother left for Alaska on Sunday to help my younger sister with some health issues.

She had her gall bladder removed 2 weeks ago, and now her liver is failing. They don't expect her to be able to leave the hospital.

I am off to be with my wife, this is an absolute shock.

I'm sure I speak for all AVS members when I say our thoughts and prayers are with you and your family.
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post #392 of 685
10/9/07 at 10:56am


Best wishes, Craig. I was going to ask you a question about the speakers, but obviously they are very insignificant compared to the health and well-being of family and other loved ones. Good luck.
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post #393 of 685
10/9/07 at 11:09am
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Originally Posted by hummer28 View Post

I'm sure I speak for all AVS members when I say our thoughts and prayers are with you and your family.

Definitely speaks for me - take care of yourself and family Craig.
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post #394 of 685
10/9/07 at 11:13am
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Thanks, guys. I am in my home office now, and my wife is in constant contact with my older sister, who is a nurse practicioner here in Erie.

It is grim, though some numbers have come up, and they are hitting her system with antibiotics, and trying to stabilize her white cell count.
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post #395 of 685
10/9/07 at 11:16am
Craig,

Best wishes, thoughts, and prayers to you and your family.

Jim
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post #396 of 685
10/9/07 at 11:36am
Craig, hope and best wishes to your sister and your entire family.
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post #397 of 685
10/9/07 at 11:42am
Craig go be with your family. I wish you and yours all the best.
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post #398 of 685
10/9/07 at 11:44am
I was just about to post my results from the GTG at Craigs and I will still later but right now I just want say that I am thinking and praying for you and your family Craig and please keep us posted on her condition.
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post #399 of 685
10/9/07 at 11:55am
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Originally Posted by craigsub View Post

Guys ... I just got off the phone with my Dad. He and my mother left for Alaska on Sunday to help my younger sister with some health issues.

She had her gall bladder removed 2 weeks ago, and now her liver is failing. They don't expect her to be able to leave the hospital.

I am off to be with my wife, this is an absolute shock.

Prayers for you and yours Craig...

Let me know when I can call...

Sorry about this news...

Love and Hugs...

mls
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post #400 of 685
10/9/07 at 12:48pm
Same here.....We wish you and your family Blessings!
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post #401 of 685
10/9/07 at 1:13pm
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Originally Posted by craigsub View Post

Guys ... I just got off the phone with my Dad. He and my mother left for Alaska on Sunday to help my younger sister with some health issues.

She had her gall bladder removed 2 weeks ago, and now her liver is failing. They don't expect her to be able to leave the hospital.

I am off to be with my wife, this is an absolute shock.

Oh man...I am sorry. She will be in our prayers.
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post #402 of 685
10/9/07 at 2:13pm
Just caught up with all this. Whoa!

Craig, our prayers our with you and your family.

Take care.......Carlo.
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post #403 of 685
10/9/07 at 2:50pm
There are no words, Craig. Thinking of you and your entire family.
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post #404 of 685
10/9/07 at 2:58pm
Repeating what Rijax said, Craig. Our thoughts go with you and yours.
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post #405 of 685
10/9/07 at 3:42pm
Thread Starter 
Thanks to all for the kind words, prayers and well wishes for my sister. It is now 7 hours since I talked to my Dad, and no news is good news.

Right now, I am doing the "hurry up, wait, pray and hope" routine.

To anyone who is non-religious, I hope this does not come across as preachy.
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post #406 of 685
10/9/07 at 7:44pm
My thoughts are with you and your family Craig. Family comes first.
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post #407 of 685
10/9/07 at 8:05pm
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Originally Posted by craigsub View Post

Thanks to all for the kind words, prayers and well wishes for my sister. It is now 7 hours since I talked to my Dad, and no news is good news.

Right now, I am doing the "hurry up, wait, pray and hope" routine.

To anyone who is non-religious, I hope this does not come across as preachy.

I am not religious but it does not come across as preachy. I think in times like this we all come toghether to pray, hope and want a a "get well quick" result no matter where we are in the religious scheme of things.
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post #408 of 685
10/9/07 at 11:32pm
Craig, let me echo the hopes and wishes of everyone else here and let you know I'm pulling for your sister. I can sure relate... At this moment I'm writing from my cousins' place in Jersey. I'm here for a few days because my cousin committed suicide this past Thursday and I came up to support his widow and 3 children. I wasn't all that close with him actually but I'm very close with his wife and his son and everyone's kind of still in shock. Anyway I hope your sister pulls through!
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post #409 of 685
10/10/07 at 4:06am
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Thanks to all for the kind words ... we got no news overnight, and it has now been 19 hours. Every hour means more medicines are at work, toxins being removed from her system, and is this is all a good thing.
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post #410 of 685
10/10/07 at 4:13am
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Back to loudspeakers ... I was up early, again. This morning I took a graph to show the relative sensitivity of an Acculine A1 to the Ascend 340.

Each is of a single speaker, with the microphone directly in front of each speaker's half way point.

The microphone, of course, was exactly one meter away from each speaker.

The number to concentrate on is in the upper left hand corner:

The Ascend 340's ...



The Acculine A1's ...



With the identical signal, the Ascends produced 82.22 dB to the Acculine's 82.65 dB .. a 0.43 dB difference. EDIT: This is not a one watt @ one meter signal, but rather a steady state test tone using the same volume output on my McIntosh MA-6900 Amplifier. Both speakers are more efficient than 82.XX dB. I did not want anyone thinking the speakers in question were that far below spec.


With the exception of the Swans, I can do this test with any of the speakers, and post results.

I hope these graphs will help those who think some of the speakers were handicapped by a 4 dB attenuation.
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post #411 of 685
10/10/07 at 6:06am
Wow...it still amazes me that real world sensitivity rarely matches the manufacturer's.

I sure hope your sister is feeling better! Best wishes to you and yours buddy!
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post #412 of 685
10/10/07 at 6:16am
Craig,

I am mainly a lurker here But I always find your posts informative and and your generosity to the AVS community stuns me. Your the kind of guy that makes the internet work. Thoughts and Prayers with your family right now. I hope your Sister gets well soon.
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post #413 of 685
10/10/07 at 6:41am
Very informative post Craig. Hopefully it will put the questions about "flawed testing" to rest.

All the best wishes to your family as well.
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post #414 of 685
10/10/07 at 6:53am
Craig:
I also commend you on your hard work and dedication to the hobby.

My wife and I send along our best wishes to you and your family during this difficult time.

Pete
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post #415 of 685
10/10/07 at 7:02am
Craig:

All the best wishes to you and your familiy.
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post #416 of 685
10/10/07 at 10:13am
Craig, along with the others you've got my thoughts and prayers at this difficult time.

And I do appreciate all that you do with the speaker tests and "get togethers". You are one of the good guys.

Bill
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post #417 of 685
10/10/07 at 2:14pm
Here's a combined graph of no screen no attenuation (top), screen + 1dB (middle) and screen + 2dB (bottom) of craig's measurements of the previous page:



The effect as I mentioned seems to be real, be it from the switcher or screen or combination of both. at 1khz, 1db & 0db graphs closely matches, but anything > 2khz starts to vary quite a bit, showing 2 or even 4dB variations...

With the 2dB, it's even worst. It starts about 1.5dB lower (at 1khz), but then even considering that 1.5dB, it shows variations of again 4dB without the screen and above 3khz, vs without the screen/switcher. That's really quite a big difference, and really shows that it has quite an effect on the sound... Both on the mids and the top end.

So it does appear that it will actually recesses both. So a brighter speaker, or with more forward mids/treble would sound better balanced, and a neutral speaker would somewhat sound more recessed than it usually sounds without the veil/switch.

So this proves that proves that the veil/switcher DO have a measurable effect on the sound of the speakers. And that it WILL alter the sound of the speakers.
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post #418 of 685
10/10/07 at 2:18pm
Thread Starter 
Gents, I am leaving for Alaska Thursday morning - the first flight is at 6 AM.

She has been moved to a critical care unit, and it is pretty bleak right now.
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post #419 of 685
10/10/07 at 2:27pm
Damn Craig, this is terrible. As many have already stated, my thoughts and prayers are with you as well. Life is such a fragile thing, yet we don't look at it in those terms until one of us is faced with something like this!
Be strong my friend!

MF
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post #420 of 685
10/10/07 at 2:29pm
I wish you and your family safe travels and all the best. You will be in our thoughts and prayers.
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