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post #1681 of 2526
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Originally Posted by dbaydoun View Post

I was at Best Buy today and made an impulse buy of Dragons Lair. I can remember spending hours at the arcade playing this game. Well, the 2500 would not play this movie/game. I am very disappointed since I opened the disk and can't return it. My bad for the "impulse buy" and Denon's bad for not giving us another update to fix these problems. Come on Denon!

If the 2500 refuses to play this disc. Try hitting the play button again when the disc stops.
post #1682 of 2526
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Originally Posted by john barlow View Post

If the 2500 refuses to play this disc. Try hitting the play button again when the disc stops.

The disk menu comes up. The disk freezes when you select play. Once the disk freezes, there is no button combination that will get the disk to play. Thanks for the suggestion.
post #1683 of 2526
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Originally Posted by Clark Burk View Post

Of course the PS3 has a few advantages over the 2500 with BD live and no BD player I know can yet match it in player speed and responsiveness.

Beta testers of the Oppo BD 83 player claim PS3 speeds and at least one of them actually owns a PS3!
post #1684 of 2526
I had a customer put a non Blue Ray version of Godfather II into his Denon Blue Ray player and it will no longer play any Blue Ray DVD's. Has anyone seen this problem?

Jon
post #1685 of 2526
I have a general listening mode question: I have a 7.1 system and for the most part the audio on the Blu-Ray disk is either True HD 5.1 or DTS-MA 5.1. I want to utilize my rear speakers. Should I just use Dolby Pro Logic IIx? Will I be sacrificing sound quality by doing this? Any suggestions would be appreciated.
post #1686 of 2526
its a matter of personal preference, do whatever sounds best to you.

I prefer using PLiix for anything less than 7.1. I think PLiix adds alot and sounds fantastic on all 5.1 tracks myself.

Some will prefer to not introduce anything artificial and stick with the 5.1 setup.
post #1687 of 2526
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Originally Posted by mels330 View Post

I tried comparing my player's current firmware vs firware on Denon site.
Player 1.107
Denon Website 1.104

I have the same setup. Player version is 1.107 and Denon says the current version for my player is 1.104. Manufactured 8/2008.

Guess I should leave it alone.

What is the curent firmware version?
post #1688 of 2526
If anyone is interested, I'm selling my DVD-2500BTCI to get ready for the universal player. Check the classifieds.
post #1689 of 2526
Thread Starter 
I am interested. How much?
post #1690 of 2526
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Originally Posted by DenonLover View Post

I am interested. How much?

Check your PM.
post #1691 of 2526
Just picked up this player to go with my Denon 3808 AVR. So far, I'm loving it. Very well made unit. Did the firmware upgrade without issue.

My display has a native resolution of 1366x768. It's a 2.5 year old Panasonic plasma TH-50PX60U.

Comparing 1080i and 1080p, I get a strange comb effect in scenes with fine vertical parallel lines during pans when the DVD-2500 is set to 1080p. If I set the output resolution to 1080i the combing artifacts go away.

For example, the opening scene in Batman Dark Night shows a fly-over of a building roof top with a structure having fine vertical detail. As the camera passes over, these lines shift left and right and there is a loss of detail as a result.

Is this because my plasma has a better de-interlacer than the DVD-2500? What settings should I use for a 768p display?

I realize this plasma will not give me the best Blu-Ray has to offer. Upgrading the display is not an option at this time. The "finance committee" (aka wife) will not approve a new plasma.
post #1692 of 2526
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Originally Posted by Todd Scott View Post

Just picked up this player to go with my Denon 3808 AVR. So far, I'm loving it. Very well made unit. Did the firmware upgrade without issue.

My display has a native resolution of 1366x768. It's a 2.5 year old Panasonic plasma TH-50PX60U.

Comparing 1080i and 1080p, I get a strange comb effect in scenes with fine vertical parallel lines during pans when the DVD-2500 is set to 1080p. If I set the output resolution to 1080i the combing artifacts go away.

For example, the opening scene in Batman Dark Night shows a fly-over of a building roof top with a structure having fine vertical detail. As the camera passes over, these lines shift left and right and there is a loss of detail as a result.

Is this because my plasma has a better de-interlacer than the DVD-2500? What settings should I use for a 768p display?

I realize this plasma will not give me the best Blu-Ray has to offer. Upgrading the display is not an option at this time. The "finance committee" (aka wife) will not approve a new plasma.

I'm not one of the "experts" here but your TV will ALWAYS scale the incoming signal since your TV is 1366 x 768. I'm guessing your TV simply handles the 1080i source better than the 1080p source. The following link gives a good explanation.

http://hd1080i.blogspot.com/2006/12/...-problems.html
post #1693 of 2526
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Originally Posted by Todd Scott View Post

Just picked up this player to go with my Denon 3808 AVR. So far, I'm loving it. Very well made unit. Did the firmware upgrade without issue.

My display has a native resolution of 1366x768. It's a 2.5 year old Panasonic plasma TH-50PX60U.

Comparing 1080i and 1080p, I get a strange comb effect in scenes with fine vertical parallel lines during pans when the DVD-2500 is set to 1080p. If I set the output resolution to 1080i the combing artifacts go away.

For example, the opening scene in Batman Dark Night shows a fly-over of a building roof top with a structure having fine vertical detail. As the camera passes over, these lines shift left and right and there is a loss of detail as a result.

Is this because my plasma has a better de-interlacer than the DVD-2500? What settings should I use for a 768p display?

I realize this plasma will not give me the best Blu-Ray has to offer. Upgrading the display is not an option at this time. The "finance committee" (aka wife) will not approve a new plasma.

Just to be clear, you are getting artfacts when the 2500 outputs 1080p, but not when it outputs 1080i? How is the 2500 connected to the plasma (component, hdmi)? Are you sure you aren't selecting 1080p24 instead of 1080p? Your TV accepts 1080p60 over HDMI only. It does not support 1080p24 on any input.
post #1694 of 2526
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Originally Posted by gimp View Post

Just to be clear, you are getting artfacts when the 2500 outputs 1080p, but not when it outputs 1080i? How is the 2500 connected to the plasma (component, hdmi)? Are you sure you aren't selecting 1080p24 instead of 1080p? Your TV accepts 1080p60 over HDMI only. It does not support 1080p24 on any input.

I'm not sure if artifact is the right word. Looks like a moire pattern that changes as the camera flies over.

I have the plasma connected by HDMI to my Denon 3808. Video conversion is turned off on the 3808. Tried it again last night and 1080p gives fine vertical lines the moire. 1080i doesn't.

Watched my first blu-ray movie (Batman TDN) all the way through last night before realizing it wasn't set to TrueHD.
post #1695 of 2526
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Originally Posted by Todd Scott View Post

I'm not sure if artifact is the right word. Looks like a moire pattern that changes as the camera flies over.

I have the plasma connected by HDMI to my Denon 3808. Video conversion is turned off on the 3808. Tried it again last night and 1080p gives fine vertical lines the moire. 1080i doesn't.

Watched my first blu-ray movie (Batman TDN) all the way through last night before realizing it wasn't set to TrueHD.

Other than trying to connect the 2500 directly to the plasma, I'm out of ideas. My plasma is also 768p native, but it only accepts up to 1080i so I always had my (now sold) 2500 set to 720p.
post #1696 of 2526
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Originally Posted by gimp View Post

Other than trying to connect the 2500 directly to the plasma, I'm out of ideas. My plasma is also 768p native, but it only accepts up to 1080i so I always had my (now sold) 2500 set to 720p.

Is there any reason not to use 1080i ? It looks WAY better than 720p on my plasma.
post #1697 of 2526
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Originally Posted by cam View Post

Besides freezing in new Mummy movie, I also found few non-playable discs: "The Lionel Richie Paris concert", "Andre Rieu: Live in Vienna".

Same problem here - tried to watch Wanted tonight. The movie first froze around 15 minutes; I unplugged the unit and then tried to watch where I left off only to have the player freeze again at 26 minutes. I gave up
post #1698 of 2526
No issues here with Mummy, Wanted, Hancock...
post #1699 of 2526
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Originally Posted by awarren007 View Post

Same problem here - tried to watch Wanted tonight. The movie first froze around 15 minutes; I unplugged the unit and then tried to watch where I left off only to have the player freeze again at 26 minutes. I gave up

Hmm, that's strange. We watched wanted with absolutely no issues the other night. Oh and what a great movie too.
post #1700 of 2526
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Originally Posted by Todd Scott View Post

Is there any reason not to use 1080i ? It looks WAY better than 720p on my plasma.

I always go with what looks best. I definitely would not worry about 1080p in your situation. I didn't do much comparison between 720p and 1080i, and those I did showed little difference. I had the 2500 connected to a Denon AVP-A1HDCI and was unable to get a picture with the 2500 set to 1080p(60) and the AVP set to 1080i (my display won't accept 1080p). I figured that since film-based BRs are always 1080p, it would be better to have the player scale down 1080 to 720 instead of interlacing 1080p to 1080i, and then the plasma deinterlacing 1080i and scaling to 768p. In other words, I traded off some resolution (720 vs. 768) by avoiding interlacing (in the player) and deinterlacing (in the display).
post #1701 of 2526
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Originally Posted by awarren007 View Post

Same problem here - tried to watch Wanted tonight. The movie first froze around 15 minutes; I unplugged the unit and then tried to watch where I left off only to have the player freeze again at 26 minutes. I gave up

Every Universal title (except Hellboy II) has locked up my 2500BTCI player. I have no issues with any other studio releases, only Universal. Since the soon to be released DVD-A1UDCI is an all "in house" designed player, I'm hoping that I will not have the playback issues as I've been experiencing with my 2500BTCI.

Oh, and what I do when my player freezes up, is I just press and hold the power button on the unit for about 10 seconds or so. This shuts the player down.


Seth
post #1702 of 2526
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Originally Posted by ohyeah32 View Post

Every Universal title (except Hellboy II) has locked up my 2500BTCI player. I have no issues with any other studio releases, only Universal. Since the soon to be released DVD-A1UDCI is an all "in house" designed player, I'm hoping that I will not have the playback issues as I've been experiencing with my 2500BTCI.

Oh, and what I do when my player freezes up, is I just press and hold the power button on the unit for about 10 seconds or so. This shuts the player down.


Seth

Does anyone know if Denon is considering a fix for this? I have the same issue. Hellboy II even froze up for me.
post #1703 of 2526
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Originally Posted by sieberlf View Post

Does anyone know if Denon is considering a fix for this? I have the same issue. Hellboy II even froze up for me.

I really hope that they release a fix for this soon.
post #1704 of 2526
Just watched HellBoy II and had no problem with it. It's a Universal title. I haven't cracked open the manual. How do you check FW level? What is the latest one? Thanks
post #1705 of 2526
I was at BB earlier today and ordered the 2500 for $399. I know it's a big price drop, but is it worth the coin compared to some other models that are still more affordable? I have the AVR-988 and am hoping it's a better combination than the PS3 I currently have hooked to it. Not to say the PS3 hasn't been a stellar source for BR. I just needed a second BR player and decided to move the PS3 out of the home theater and replace it with the 2500. Will I be happy for the money? Thanks in advance!

Brian
post #1706 of 2526
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Originally Posted by MRMOTA View Post

Just watched HellBoy II and had no problem with it. It's a Universal title. I haven't cracked open the manual. How do you check FW level? What is the latest one? Thanks

You can check for firmware updates on the Denon website.
post #1707 of 2526
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Originally Posted by jamirobri View Post

I was at BB earlier today and ordered the 2500 for $399. I know it's a big price drop, but is it worth the coin compared to some other models that are still more affordable? I have the AVR-988 and am hoping it's a better combination than the PS3 I currently have hooked to it. Not to say the PS3 hasn't been a stellar source for BR. I just needed a second BR player and decided to move the PS3 out of the home theater and replace it with the 2500. Will I be happy for the money? Thanks in advance!

Brian

So far I am happy with this player for 399. Haven't had any issues so I am happy..
post #1708 of 2526
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Originally Posted by MRMOTA View Post

So far I am happy with this player for 399. Haven't has any issues so I am happy..

At $399 you are stealing this player. The construction alone is worth that. I paid full price for this unit when It came out. Everyone seems to forget that the main intent for this machine is to be a transport via bitstream to a high end receiver. That's why it doesn't have all the features of the 3800.
post #1709 of 2526
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Originally Posted by john barlow View Post

At $399 you are stealing this player. The construction alone is worth that. I paid full price for this unit when It came out. Everyone seems to forget that the main intent for this machine is to be a transport via bitstream to a high end receiver. That's why it doesn't have all the features of the 3800.

Agree on the price. I have a 3808 and they play very nicely. To boot when I bought it right before Christmas from BB they gave me the two bat movies as part of their promotion. I already had Begins and was getting TDK from the wife for Christmas so I sold them to my brother for 30. So it was literally 399 out the door.
post #1710 of 2526
I also have trouble watching Hell Boy II and Wanted. Both lock up intermittently. I do have the latest firmware. Denon needs to release another patch for this problem. Hopefully they are monitoring this thread.
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