Originally Posted by vcor
. . . both the 905 and 4308 . . . Most issues have some kind of work-around and the hope that a firmware update will be available from both companies. It's very clear Denon has a update in the works (with a beta somewhat available). No word from Onkyo if a firmware update is really going to be available, but lots of hopeful talk in the forum
Hey, Vcor, thanks for your comparison tables, I made frequent reference to them before the final die, at least for me, was cast.
Anywho's . . . I believe I read in the first primal screams of this thread, that eg carter
, a respected AVS contributor and an Integra dealer that stays pretty well on top of the goings-on with his manufacturer-suppliers, stated (hearing it from Onkyo itself), that any upgrades/firmware for these new Onkyo AVRs would not
be "user-level-implemented", thus implying that you would have to take/transport your unit to a regional service center to get any possible future firmware updates, if they were to happen at all (please, correct me if I'm in error with this). Course, this was just pre-release/early release info, but a point was, perhaps, made by the Onkyo group.
The Onkyo 905 is a great unit, IMO. But it is indeed in need of some firmware tweeking to make it be all, that we have hopes, it can be. However, I, for one, don't really have confidence that these anticipated firmware updates will materialize (at least not in the near future). There are very few of us critical viewer/listener-types other than here at AVS (or similar forums), and unless Onkyo receives overwhelming negative input about the shortcomings of these new units, it is my opinion that firmware updates will be very late-in-arriving, if at all. I know that Onkyo has supplied user-implemented updates in the past for previous models (however, I'm not sure in what form). And, considering that the Onkyo 905 (at least) has internet capabilty and a possible access point for very easily-implemented user-level updating, I think it would be a significant Onkyo CS omission that, if they had fixes for some of our more common complaints (4:3 aspect pass-through and correction of black/white/color picture alterations when utilizing OSD & REON processing), they let it slide and didn't provide for these updates in a user-friendly method. However, as I said, these things may be mainly customer-driven, and I do not expect to see any Onkyo user-level-implemented firmware updates in the near future. Hope I'm wrong, cuz I'm a 905 owner and would love to see it become all it can be. Actually, I'm pleased, however, with what I've experienced so far with the 905; it ain't perfect, but I just want more -- is that so wrong
I think Denon has historically been a little bit better with providing significant firmware updates than Onkyo. Both these units are good, even as they stand, however, the Onkyo does seem to have the better price position.
- da Choge