Originally Posted by john barlow
I think J&R's reputation has been permanently damaged. This mess with the 905 has put them in a bad position. I don't know what they can do to mend fences with the consumers tha feel alienated by them.
I'm not bashing J&R in the least (I didn't have a 'buying experience'... they wouldn't let me back-order)... but between this fiasco with the 905s and the one with the 605s, their 'Onkyo run' has been a rough one. It's not J&Rs fault... but the 'uncertainty' that they were feeding people didn't help. What they should have told people asking for a 'timeline' is "Onkyo has told us two weeks... but with their recent history, it could me a month or more. They haven't been meeting our order requests... we order 100, and they send us 10..." This way, it reiterates to people that it's Onkyo shorting the distributor, and not the distributor misleading the consumer. I know that this was NEVER their intention... but that's how people feel when they are constantly being told, "two weeks... two weeks... two weeks" and we are ~2 months into produce availability.
An Onkyo rep told me that the 605s were 10 times harder to get than the 905s... but I placed an order on amazon (for $30 less than the J&R price) and had the 605 (for my mom) in less than 10 days.
For people who are waiting for a 905... START LOOKING AROUND!!!! I used joerod as my example... he wanted to get a 905 really badly... so he started searching... and got one within a month (IIRC). It took me 3 weeks from the time that I started making phone calls to the receiver arriving (and unlike dude2006, I paid NOTHING NEAR MSRP!). Don't just sit at home complaining about not having a receiver, start calling around. If you don't have 3-5 pre-orders... you aren't looking hard enough. Most of the vendors (3 of the 4) I called didn't want my credit card info until they had the unit in their hands ready to ship...