The "Official" Onkyo TX-NR905 Thread - Page 195

the network port is for sending the rcvr automation command sequences via ethernet using TCP/Ip packets instead of the RS232 port. See my post #3457 in this forum along with the RS232 command sequence file:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...postcount=3457

According to my calibrator's Silicon Optix contact, that color space fix is in the latest firmware version as of March 3. It seems likely that he meant 1.08, but I guess we'll see.

You can send control commands to the receiver over the network. I have a network capable remote control (a Pronto TSU9600) and I can control the receiver over the network instead of or in addition to using IR.

Jeff

Thrang, you have it right. As in my other reply the "control" is so you can control the receiver over the network. All the commands you can send with the IR remote control and more can be sent over the network connection.

As to the "port" number question, that's just part of the TCP/IP address. The IP address is what everyone's familiar with. The port is the TCP port number part of the address. It's a rather arbitrary value between 1 and 65535 except that some values have common uses, e.g. port 80 is http.

Jeff

Man, I really hope O/I recognizes that DIY firmware updates are absolutely essential. I'd say the odds of equipment damage are far greater (almost guaranteed, actually) if we are forced to disconnect/haul/handover/wait/pickup/haul/reconnect components than if we are allowed to diligently execute in-place software upgrades ourselves.

If they force us into service center upgrades, I'll have to pass... I will just sell my 805 and not bother with Onkyo again.

Joe, sorry for your losses.

Secondarily, I wish you'd drop some names of the people who keep doing this to you so we can blacklist them on this forum.

I see some mentioned shipping charges if they shipped their 905 for the FW update. I would think if your 905 is under warranty that there would be no shipping charges.

joerod,

Also my thoughts are with you on the passing of your family members. As someone already mentioned it puts this hobby (obession) of ours in perspective.

Bill

Welcome to the "World of Onkyo" ...

I do hope that they make the firmware available for end users to install.

Edit: If any sarcasm is taken from my post, please note that it is not directed AbMagFab.

How very true.

Need Network help. I am running Tversity on my server. My playlists and MP3 folders show up on the 905 and work perfectly. I can't get the receiver though to pick up any web radio stations. I've let the DHCP set itself automatically, the IP address of my gateway is correct, tried with and without proxy (though I don't have one) to no effect. Tversity offers a choice of web radio and those don't work either. Have also tried setting up WMP 11 which shows up and plays MP3 playlists fine, but again, no e-radio. I have entered several stations via calling up the 905 by its IP and pasting in the URL. No luck. Won't play. The same URL will play on the browser (calling up Apple Quicktime) or on Winamp no problem. This is frustrating.

Can you give me more info, im still on the first version as Danish Onkyo support wont update......

The March firmware update consists of two parts "Main" and "DSP".
For the 905 You need at least version 1.05 to start with, for the 875 it's 1.04, for the other ones I don't know..

Any older versions could lead to problems in self-updating and should only be handled by an "official" Onkyo service point, because it might not work the other way. Depending on the installed version, there is eventually a hardware modification necessary and there might also be a 3rd firmware update needed, which employs a proprietary flash writer PCB supplied by Onkyo.

O(i)nkyo Germany is handing out CDs to end users for do-it-yourself updates of the 705/805/875/905.

The "Main" firmware is updated through the already known RS232 port at the rear, the "DSP" update is been done by burning the corresponding firmware file on a CD and playing it through a CD / DVD player hooked up by optical connection (TOS-link).

PS.: I just have been notified of a rumor, that the new "Main" firmware has been recalled by Onkyo Japan due to some issues.
But ... it's just a rumor by now. Service points still use it.

being a 905 user in europe can you point me to some place with more info about that?

I found these late "easter eggs"

DSP Update Onkyo 605

DSP Update Onkyo & Integra 705 / 805 / 875 / 905 / 8.8 / 9.8 / 885

------

Main Update Onkyo & Integra 905 / 8.8 ONLY (1.08)

Main Update Onkyo & Integra 875 / 9.8 / 885 ONLY (1.07)

Supposed to fix DTS HD-MA "bomb" / digital garbage issue.
Supposed to improve / fix audio switching delay and lipsync issues.
See enclosed attachments (PDF) below for installation instructions (same as in archives).

Previous "public" releases from joerods distribution:
Main Update Onkyo & Integra 905 / 8.8 ONLY (1.05)
Main Update Onkyo & Integra 875 / 9.8 / 885 ONLY (1.05)
Main Update Onkyo & Integra 875 / 9.8 / 885 ONLY (1.04)
Please ask joerod, if there are any questions for those.

Note: These are "official" release version files.
These files are been employed by Onkyo service points and handed out elsewhere by Onkyo to customers (free of charge).
They are identical to those versions preinstalled on factory fresh units (look HERE)
Version numbers are model specific, thus a 1.07 firmware for the 875/9.8/885 is as current as 1.08 for the 905/8.8.

This update will upgrade "Main" and "DSP1" (and DSP2 / DSP3, if not current already).

905 Version IDs after 1.05:
Main 9....1.05 / 07927A
SR8051...07602A
SR8052...07518A
SR8053...07820B
HDMI......1.01 / 07706A
Video......07607E0924
Net........1.01 070731Z
Net usr 07031 / 095118
Net rfs 07031 / 095118
Net krn 07023 / 145423
Net ipl 07023 / 123459

905 Version IDs after 1.08:
Main 9....1.08 / 08223A
SR8051...08214A
SR8052...07518A
SR8053...07820B
HDMI......1.01 / 07706A
Video......07607E0924
Net........1.01 070731Z
Net usr 07031 / 095118
Net rfs 07031 / 095118
Net krn 07023 / 145423
Net ipl 07023 / 123459

Some cautious notes (and legal stuff):

Do NOT contact me, if those links don't work (anymore).
I don't take responsibility for them or their contents, I am just a scout

As always: Read the instructions FIRST.

Update Path: The recommended upgrade path should be:
905/8.8: if below 1.05 goto 1.05 first, then 1.08.
875/9.8/885: if below 1.04 goto 1.04 first, then 1.07.
The prerequisit is, that the displayed loader version "Main Update" must be at least Ver.1.01/07615L
If not. I don't know...
Note: Several users have indicated, that a direct update without intermediate steps from i.e. 1.02 to 1.08 did work for them.
Onkyo instructions states, that the upgrade / update needs either 1.05 or 1.04 (model specific) as a starting point.

Check Your existing firmware version:
=> Turn on Your unit, push & hold "Display" and press "Standby"
Do NOT install if Your current firmware to start with for 905 / 8.8 is below 1.05 or 875 / 9.8 / 885 is below 1.04, others (805/705) I don't know !!!
If You got an earlier version to start with, there might be additional steps to be taken (DSP:hardware modification + HDMI+NET:additional firmware) !
If this is the case, and You need them, contact Your nearest ONKYO service point for the complete update procedure.
I told You so...

It is suggested, that those updates are universal for the Western hemisphere.
I can't verify this ... anyway, version IDs are identical.
If in doubt, check with Your nearest Onkyo service point.
Note: Just to make sure, "joerod" and numerous others have tested them and they work just fine.
Place a PM to joerod if You want this update sent to You by e-mail instead of downloading it Yourself.

Beware: Anyone with an "Audyssey Pro" installation: The update routine of the "DSP" firmware is at fault, deleting all Your (costly) "Audyssey Pro" settings. Be prepared therefore, to call in the Audyssey installer again afterwards !
This holds true for the "normal" Audyssey parameters too.
Your personal settings will be erradicated running the update routine of the "DSP".
... and You will not have the opportunity to save anything.
A hardware reset is recommended strongly in any case to get the new firmware properly initialized.
Audyssey should also be rerun after the update, because some things might have changed.
Note: Audyssey has stated in the meantime, that nothing has changed in this firmware release with respect to the Audyssey implementation (but one never knows...Onkyo might have done something)

Onkyo / Integra has indicated, that the following method saves settings "permanently" (not on the "DSP" update).
Note: It has been reported, that saving Your settings, will not survive the DSP firmware update procedure !
Be prepared to redo everything. So write down Your setting before updating the unit !

1) TO STORE SETTINGS (must be done first, otherwise the recall will not have anything to recall):
Turn the unit on.
From the front panel- Push and hold "Setup", then Push "Enter".
The unit will display "Setup Store?", push "Enter" again and the unit will display "Setup Storing", then it will display "Complete" and thus the procedure is complete.

2) TO RECALL SETTINGS:
Turn the unit on.
From the front panel- Push and hold "Setup", then Push "Return".
The unit will display "Setup Recall?", push "Return" again and the unit will display "Setup Recalling", then it will display "Complete" and thus the procedure is complete.

Remember: If You are unsure, what all this means or what You are doing ... Don't do it !
Get professional advice, before You brick Your unit.

No guarantees whatsoever !
I do not suggest or advice anyone, to install or use it.
I am not connected with Onkyo in any way.
Don't hold me (or Onkyo/Integra or anyone else) responsible for anything You are doing.
You are on Your own, as always ...
Take care... and have fun.

 

DSP UPG CU eng.pdf 35.2998046875k . file

 

Update_RS232_TXNR905_E080313.pdf 321.376953125k . file

 

Update_RS232_TXSR875_E20080313.pdf 314.2646484375k . file

I am currently in Europe and I am using a US version 875 that I picked up last year in US.

It is crucial for me that Onkyo would give the green light on user firmware updating as I think none of the service centers here would have access to US version of firmware. (On the assumption there is a difference between the Europe and US firmware version, as I suspect there is)

Since there is no way for me to ship the receiver back to States for an update, Joered's distribution is pretty much the only method I can update this equipment and I am sincerely grateful for his efforts.

I know two other Onkyo/Integra users(Integra 9.8 and 875) in the exact same situation as myself, so our status should be a factor for Onkyo to take into account when deciding on distribution of firmware.

others have gone thru what you did with same results ... Have you tried this? Go to shoutcast website and then right click in IE on the TUNE IN button and COPY LINK LOCATION and then goto the 905 webpage and paste the link.

that should work. others have tried other internet radio sites that do and do not work but I have not had issues with shoutcast.com

Kalos these are the instructions I have found that supposedly work, haven't got my 905 set up yet to test.

Cheers Al

Internet Radio Setup

To any of you that are trying to get internet radio going.
I just spent alot of time with a csr (Jennifer) at Onkyo and she went away to check and called me back with this info:

I am trying Shoutcast at "Shoutcast.com"

1. Find the station you want

2. On your PC have the Onkyo URL on your screen. It will probably be similar to 192.168.x.xx and the screen will have 3 columns. You want the one titled "Preset Radio"

3. Right click on the little "Tune In" Icon on the left side of the Shoutcast Radio Station you want and use copy short cut and paste to the URL column on the Onkyo url screen. The first column on the left of the Onkyo URL screen is where you can title the music station.

An example of the URL of the Shoutcast Station is

http://www.shoutcast.com/sbin/

shoutcast-playlist.pls?rn=5890&file=filename.pls

add the second line to the end of the first line of the URL as AVS won't let me put the entire URL on one line

Now hit the SAVE button

The Onkyo should be on Net/USB Internet Radio

Your TV should show the Title you gave and hitting enter on the remote (make sure remote button is lit for net/usb also

Thanks! Took all of about 45 minutes to complete. Feedback so far:

Things fixed:
- Audio lock when switching audio formats it's nearly instant
- Overall LipSync seems to be improved - I've tested a bunch of SD and HD sources

Things not fixed/gotten worse:
- Resynch with output display when input format changes (e.g. change from 1080i to 720p, even with 1080p fixed output, it still causes a resynch with the display) - same as before
- OSD still causes a weird "film" over the image, and seems to now add some sort of very subtle jerkiness on some sources - worse than before

Things still open, but initially looking better:
- REON - This seems about the same, but with 1080p upconversion turned off, I don't think the REON actually does anything (or it's not noticable). So I've got this turned off completely again.

Things to test:
- Audyssey results (I was never happy with mine before) - will test after I get my new front speakers early next week.


Info from my 905 web page interface:

Only the BRAVE!!!

Congratulations!
What did you udpate first firmware or DSP ?
Do you know if firmware is for 875 also or were find the 875 version?

Ciao

DSP: Yes
Main: No (1.05 or 1.06 is newest for 875, I believe ?)
Sequence: Don't care

DSP update should cure:
- DTS HD-MA problem (digital noise "bombs") solved
- improved audio resync
- no need to turn on TV / projector for audio (i.e. CD) if connected by HDMI
- some unspecified improvements for Audyssey (?)
- improved lipsync (?)

Main:
- improved color space (?)
- ???

boy you are brave. I will wait for the semi official release from joerod

I did the firmware first, which took the longest (about 30 minutes).

The DSP took about 5 minutes. The hardest part was digging up a CD player with optical out that would play the burned CD (from a WAV file).

No idea if the 875 is the same firmware.

Now that's just silly. I could understand not wanting to do it first, but now that it's proven reliable, why you'd want to wait makes no sense.

PS3 has optical, could you use that?

you are braver than I am

Good point... I have everything hooked up by HDMI, so I actually forgot to look to see what also had optical.

I did try to put the CD into my old XBox, but it wouldn't recognize it, so I didn't bother trying any other gaming system. They might recognize it.

An old CD/DVD player did recognize it, so I just grabbed that from my electronics graveyard and it worked fine.

As always: Higher risks ... higher rewards

After an hour or so of testing, it seems like this fixes the most important things to me which are:

- LipSynch
- Audio Lock on format change

Nothing else appears to have changed, as far as I can tell, including the quality of the REON, OSD, 1080p upconversion, etc.

I still hope Audyssey is improved, and I might run it just to see if my sound curve is improved from the last time, even before my new speakers - if so, I'll post results.

But for now, I'm running it with REON completely off, like before, and I'm happy with the lipsynch and sound lock improvements.

Just so I understand it correctly. The DSP update is performed via the optical I/O via a WAV file?

Has anyone tried listening to the WAV file just for fun to hear what it sounds like? I would imagine some sort of modulated signal.

I've never heard of being able to update any type of firmware via an optical connection, using a common audio formatted file. Very interesting. Has anyone ever heard of this being done for other products in the past, or is this something new for flashing DSPs.

Spence

Yes, via OPT1 in. It appears to load the file then update the DSP's (it updated the third DSP after it was done "playing" the file).

It sounds like the old modems, but sharper. I wouldn't suggest you listen to it on your speakers except at really low volume.