Official Epik Subwoofer Thread - Page 378

I'd like to know what kind of speakers you gents are running. Can a great sub really help a modest system out? Right now I have mythos 2's and gems. I was considering going to mythos 1's. I am pretty happy with the sound now, but the center channel sounds kind of weak. Would a great sub improve this?

Excellent question my friend! I ponder that one myself. I hope someone here can educate us on this.

It won't improve how the center speaker sounds, but it can definitely round out the sound.

To improve your center speaker, where and how is it positioned? Is it back on a shelf, or at/over the edge? Is it aiming straight out or is it tilted to angle towards your head at the main listening position? The latter is better on both of these.

If your speakers are small and not capable of a whole lot of bass, with a subwoofer you can set the crossover higher, say at 100Hz, to help out the speakers. You'll just want o keep the sub towards the front of the room, instead of next to or behind you, so the bass sounds like it's coming from the front speakers.

And of course you'll just need to level-match the speakers and the sub, so the sub isn't playing way louder than the speakers and overpowering the sound and the dialog.

I mean to the point that I would reconsider upgrading.

Thanks folks... I must have missed those posts. I'm playing catch up in the thread now

As an add on - I'm thinking that I would place the SW with one driver facing into the room and he other firing into the brick wall (about 3" clearance). I'll have to browse back & see if there are any posted pictures, showing the amp panel and its power/signal connectors. These extensions might be problematic. Hopefully, the Epic site will soon be complete wit this info, too.

Thanks a lot. I just ordered one. I live in Michigan, so hopefully it will not take too long for shipping.

This is replacing an old Infiniti BU-80 sub. I am going to use this with the following

Defintive Mythos One - Front
Definitive Mythos Three - Center
Definitive Mythos Two - Rears
Denon AVR 4310CI

This is exactly how mine is placed. My window expresses its displeasure on occasion but I get a very even frequency response here:

If you play it loud enough I might hear it up here in South Beloit.

You will be pleasantly surprised. I'm using a Castle with my Mythos setup in the living room and I'm still impressed to this day.

Looks like you are doing O.K. Are you happy with that center channel. I switched to that one from a CLR 1000 so I thought it sounded kind of weak. Might switch to the 1's also, are you happy with those.
They look great.

Pix of my dual Empires & my best friend.

I have a question for you guys. How critical is the positioning of this sub in terms of boundaries. I've heard that they could be placed close to a wall, but I can't see how that would produce the best scenario. Because the sub is a decent size, if I were to put it in caddy corner, wouldn't that just rattle the walls? I would assume being placed more in an open area is optimal?

Just trying to get some ideas, because with dual side firing drivers, it might be trickier than say a front firing sealed unit.

My system sounds very nice but I would have opted for a larger center if it was available at the time. A lot of people skimp on the center channel where so much info generates from. As you can see in the picture, I'm pretty much stuck with that size since I built it into the wall.

I think you're reading it wrong... it originated in Rockford and the guy that bought it lives in NJ. Epik is not far from the Illinois/Wisconsin border.

Putox, how do you like the placement of your empires? Does it sound localized...too loud for those sitting on the couch? If I get the empire the only place I can put it is next to the sofa like you.

You must get some serious bass there

Well, curiosity got the best of me again... I started experimenting with new locations. I found one spot that provided a much improved sound over where they currently are. Its as if the standing waves are completely eliminated, at least above 25-30 hz, below that there still seem to be some standing waves. I was actually hoping that it sounded terrible in this spot... here is why:





and the main reason I wished it sounded terrible here:


How do I hide the friggin' wires???? I dont think I can without drilling a hole through the floor!

Go visit Lowe's and buy an area rug that's cover the wires.

from the looks of it, the epik empire lives up to the epik name and seems to be breathtaking at that price!

I showed my wife those pictures, if you could have seen her face Then I said, see ours doesn't look so bad does it!!

I've really got no placement options whatsoever, & that's why they are set up this way. Surprisingly enough, the bass doesn't sound localized at all. I've also got 11 Bass Shakers installed in the sofa/loveseat/chair, which tend to distract one from noticing where the bass comes from (under your a*s).

Hey lilMike. Crazy how often the most inconvenient location can be the best. I am one to preserve a house; however, you can probably get away with cutting a small slit by that table and fish the wires all the way down to the entertainment system. You can get some 'fishing tape' from Home Depot that is sturdy enough to make it under the carpet and help you pull those wires through.

Getting the most out of a sub is an ongoing battle!! I will be posting on my more power=more problems thread today. Thanks!!

Thats hilarious! I moved them back to where I had them after my little experiment, which was one by each main. It is surprisingly a very good spot for the LP though. It is still forward and not off to the sound, so it still blends very well with the mains and is not very localizable and the standing waves are mostly gone so I get all the impact that they can deliver (which is a whole lot). I've thought about fishing the wires under the carpet, but if I ever move everything, which I doubt i'll ever do, I dont want a cut in the carpet. I may have to try them out more at that spot to see if it'll be worth it In the meantime, I think I might be picking up an Espresso Maple e7022 from Standout Designs to hide the clutter and make it look nicer up front

The cut in the carpet should not even be noticeable. Most carpets are glued/taped together in a seamless fashion in most rooms. I am sure you can even squeeze a little glue down, and that slit would never be noticed once the subs/wires are removed. No pressure, just and idea.

Putox,
Your dog doesn't seem too impressed with the "ride" right between your dual empires

i must be blind, i can not find a link to the Empire Sub on the Epik site. i can see the intro of it on the homepage, but no specs or pricing of it? and why is all of epik's sub's out of stock? was really interested in the Dynasty.

I think a few pages ago in this forum it was discovered that Epik discontinued their entire product line to work on the Empire. Specs and info are not listed yet and this seems to be the only place you can talk to empire owners to get the best info currently avail. Also, if you want to see the ordering link on Epik's website you have to find the "newsletter" link and read the news letter about the empire, the link's at the bottom. That's the only way I've heard of that you can order them yet. Of course you can always just email the sales dept. as well. Hope this helps.

Wireless! http://www.audioengineusa.com/w1_home.php and it does work and you can run one signal thru for both subs. Just be sure to buy an extra USB charger to plugin into the socket.

Bill

Hey guys I'm new to the forum but I have been watching this thread for some time. I talked to chad the other day and asked a lot of questions and one of the questions I asked him was when are you going to start building more of the subs that are already in his product line. He told me he was most likely going to discontinue those subs because they will not compare to the empire,
not that there is anything wrong with the subs he told me they are fantastic subs but the empire offers a wider sound range. then I asked him if he will be designing any new subs besides the empire and he said there will be a much more expensive model and most likely a few smaller versions of the empire. I hope this answers some of the questions that people asked earlier in the thread o weather there would be other subs. Don't dive up hope he is working as fast as he can.:

Forgot about the power cords!

What I meant is that the room requires the subs to be placed as shown. No other space available. Re-arrainging(sic) is not an option.


You should see him when the Bass Shakers kick in. He thinks it's an earthquake & runs & hides in the bedroom.