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post #12361 of 19461
Listening to the 2009 remaster of Sgt. Pepper's. Holy moly! I'd forgotten I had this disk - never listened to it except in the car. WOW!
post #12362 of 19461
CottyGee, The Great Organ at Methuen. There are two of them on Amazon. They seem to be the same. Is there a difference?

Film and the BBs/ Tricycle. It seems that it is discontinued. You can buy them from $5-$20 used to $70-$100 new on Amazon. Whats up with this CD?
post #12363 of 19461
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CottyGee, The Great Organ at Methuen. There are two of them on Amazon. They seem to be the same. Is there a difference?

The one I have is the Telarc recording made in 1990. Telarc is a record label that was known for it's meticulous quality in recording. Mostly classical titles. Can't vouch for the recording on the other record label.

The ASIN for the Telarc disc is B000003CSJ. If you search Amazon in the "Music" section for B000003CSJ, it will bring up the correct CD.
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Film and the BBs/ Tricycle. It seems that it is discontinued. You can buy them from $5-$20 used to $70-$100 new on Amazon. Whats up with this CD?

LOL - Yeah, it's a shame. The group broke up after they left the DMP label. Pretty much ANYTHING released on the DMP record label is a fan-freaking-tastic recording - mostly jazz and jazz-fusion.

As for Tricycle - if you can find the 20-bit remaster, that's better. If you can play the SACD - that's as good as it gets. And all of the DMP titles for Flim & the BBs are good, with Tricycle and Big Notes their best albums, and Tunnel and Neon probably their weaker stuff on DMP. The Warner records albums don't have the same quality of recording, but are good if you like the genre.

Here's a bit about the recording techniques:

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Tricycle Flim & the BB's SACD-08

This original 1982 recording was made direct to a Mitsubishi X-80 2 track digital recorder at a sampling frequency of 50.4kHz. Transfer to DSD was made using the original session master tape played on a Mitsubishi recorder connected directly to an EMM Labs DSD A/D converter feeding a Sony DSD recorder. No EQ or processing whatsoever was used in the transfer. What you hear in this newly re-mastered SACD is the original master tape. The Red Book layer (16 bit, 44.1kHz) was down converted from the DSD master using the Sony SBM Direct processor.

Original session recorded live to 2-track by Tom Jung using the Mitsubishi X-80 digital recorder at A&R Recording, New York on November 26, 27 and 28, 1982.

Produced by Flim & the BB’s and Tom Jung

Musicians

Billy Barber; Piano, Fender Rhodes, Prophet and Moog Synthesizers
Bill Berg; Drums an d Percussion
Flim Johnson; 5-String Alembic Basses & Oberheim on “Lunch Hour Wedding March”
Dick Oatts; Alto, Soprano & Tenor Saxophones, Flute and Clarinet
This dual-layer Hybrid SACD can be played in both a standard CD player and a Super Audio CD player. When played in a Super Audio player, you will experience pure 1bit Direct Stream Digital playback.
post #12364 of 19461
For the record...............this Empire is doing very well. My pictures on the wall, not so much. I need to get something to keep them from moving after playing music loud.

post #12365 of 19461
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For the record...............this Empire is doing very well. My pictures on the wall, not so much. I need to get something to keep them from moving after playing music loud.


I would try a trash bag...preferably the one that is in the can next to the road. LOL just kidding. Anyways 3M makes an entire new line of sticky stuff for hanging things. You can always find a display and get something to get the bottom from swinging from side to side. The new stuff doesn't harm drywall so you should be good. Good Luck, Rock On!
post #12366 of 19461
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For the record...............this Empire is doing very well. My pictures on the wall, not so much. I need to get something to keep them from moving after playing music loud.


You mean it still rattles after being secured by that pin scaffolding??
post #12367 of 19461
I'm really loving my empire. I don't know if it's break-in or some other phenomenon, but I seem to enjoy it a little more each time I listen to it.

I watched Hurt Locker last night and the sniper scene everyone has been raving about lived up to the hype. It felt like I had buttkickers on my sofa. Even my wife was in awe. I had to re-watch the scene this morning. I'm really happy I took the plunge.
post #12368 of 19461
Thank You CottyGee. Feel free to post more music with good bass. I can't get enough of it to try out my new Empires.
post #12369 of 19461
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Thank You CottyGee. Feel free to post more music with good bass. I can't get enough of it to try out my new Empires.


After I spent time integrating* my sub, I found that most of my music collection has really good bass. Not necessarily "boomin' system" hip hop bass, but detailed bass that's fun to listen to. Whether it's an acoustic bass (like in my old Soul Coughing CDs) or electric bass, or intricate drum lines in rock and roll, to varied and textured bass in my electronica and hip hop (what few CDs I have) and whatnot. Instead of bass all sounding like boom boom boom, all sounding the same, you hear the textures and notes, short and quiet strikes and plucks, versus the long rumbles at various frequencies.

Basically, you can rediscover your music collection and find bass and notes and textures and detail you never heard before.



*Placement, bass traps, then BFD eq for flat response, and more tweaking.
post #12370 of 19461
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For the record...............this Empire is doing very well. My pictures on the wall, not so much. I need to get something to keep them from moving after playing music loud.


Nice AGK 701's you got there.
post #12371 of 19461
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After I spent time integrating* my sub, I found that most of my music collection has really good bass. Not necessarily "boomin' system" hip hop bass, but detailed bass that's fun to listen to. Whether it's an acoustic bass (like in my old Soul Coughing CDs) or electric bass, or intricate drum lines in rock and roll, to varied and textured bass in my electronica and hip hop (what few CDs I have) and whatnot. Instead of bass all sounding like boom boom boom, all sounding the same, you hear the textures and notes, short and quiet strikes and plucks, versus the long rumbles at various frequencies.

Basically, you can rediscover your music collection and find bass and notes and textures and detail you never heard before.



*Placement, bass traps, then BFD eq for flat response, and more tweaking.



Yes your right. I'm listening to Miles Davis/ Kind of Blue, right now and it never sounded so good.
post #12372 of 19461
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Yes your right. I'm listening to Miles Davis/ Kind of Blue, right now and it never sounded so good.

Great SACD. First one I got. Very tubey sounding recording, puts me right to sleep, which isn't always desirable however.

Empires are thumping as we speak. The placement they are in now (midpoints of both side walls) is 5 db louder across almost all frequecies than when I used them in the spot my MFWs were in. My listening spot has the loudest bass of any spot in the room, other than the corners, which I could never practically sit in. I can honestly say for the first time, I have ALMOST all the bass I could ever want.

I'm selling the valor soon, but it will always have a special place in my heart. She sure was one hell of a sealed sub.
post #12373 of 19461
Kinda off-topic but related to the last few posts ... if anyone is in the market for a SACD player that's also a fine DVD 1080p upscaler, check out the Yamaha DVD-S1800BL at amazon. Only $80. I just ordered one to add SACD to my system.

Sorry, back to our regularly scheduled program ...
post #12374 of 19461
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Nice AGK 701's you got there.

Thanks..............they still need some more burn in time along with the Woo Audio WA6 sitting next to them.


.....btw, they are AKG 702's. Close enough though
post #12375 of 19461
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Thanks..............they still need some more burn in time along with the Woo Audio WA6 sitting next to them.


.....btw, they are AKG 702's. Close enough though

Right I forget the 701's are white. Great set if cans but really need plenty of juice to make them sound good. What ohms are they? Excellent phones for gamming too. I like Grado's myself.
post #12376 of 19461
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Right I forget the 701's are white. Great set if cans but really need plenty of juice to make them sound good. What ohms are they? Excellent phones for gamming too. I like Grado's myself.

Agreed.......they need decent amplification to really open up. I believe they are 62ohm? The WA6 powers them quite nicely.



Back on Topic- It's been pretty quiet here. I had a chance to demo the Empire to a couple of friends this weekend. Their jaws pretty much fell to the floor. Chad, you have another order coming real soon.
post #12377 of 19461
im getting the money for my empire this week. im having second thoughts about getting a speaker period. ive never spent that much on 1 piece of equipment. once i get it im stuck.
post #12378 of 19461
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im getting the money for my empire this week. im having second thoughts about getting a speaker period. ive never spent that much on 1 piece of equipment. once i get it im stuck.

think carefully my friend...a lot of hard earned money going to a "speaker". Epik is a great sub for the money...small and inexpensive. Go for it!
post #12379 of 19461
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im getting the money for my empire this week. im having second thoughts about getting a speaker period. ive never spent that much on 1 piece of equipment. once i get it im stuck.


No you are not. Epik subs are very easy to re-sell they are a great product. Yes you might take a loss but not a total loss. Also don't forget Epik gives you 30 day money back warranty.
post #12380 of 19461
I don't know what your sub history has been, but you'd be quite surprised how much the level of performance and enjoyment you'd get in both music and especially movies, would increase, by having a well built and capable, subwoofer.
post #12381 of 19461
If you like the sub, get it. Chad might change it 6month from now.
post #12382 of 19461
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Originally Posted by TnTBigman View Post

I don't know what your sub history has been, but you'd be quite surprised how much the level of performance and enjoyment you'd get in both music and especially movies, would increase, by having a well built and capable, subwoofer.

Which means a sub made by an Independent Distributor such as Epik, SVS, HSU, eD etc.
post #12383 of 19461
I still can't help and still have the itch to sell my curent Epik Sentinel and get an Empire!! Anyone else still having the same itch?
post #12384 of 19461
i currenntly have a jamo x5 sub 12 ich 100 watt it hits pretty good . think i paid 300 for it 6 yrs ago. i know its not even in a leauge of any of these. if i had 1 more of these i would be satisfied. for right now anyway. u always want more right. kinda like a drug.
post #12385 of 19461
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Originally Posted by deepstang View Post

I still can't help and still have the itch to sell my curent Epik Sentinel and get an Empire!! Anyone else still having the same itch?

I'm not having the same itch. I love my Tower and wouldn't trade it for anything. Besides, my Tower is louder and goes deeper than the empire in the sub-sonic regions and to me that's a huge benefit for movies

-Chad
post #12386 of 19461
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I'm not having the same itch. I love my Tower and wouldn't trade it for anything. Besides, my Tower is louder and goes deeper than the empire in the sub-sonic regions and to me that's a huge benefit for movies

-Chad

Same here. Althought the Empire looks and performs well, I perfer the single 18" driver. The Dragon and Empire has similar performance. The Empire has better slam and output over the Dragon. But your going from Sentinel to the Empire. I can see why you want it.
post #12387 of 19461
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Originally Posted by Hksvr4 View Post

Same here. Althought the Empire looks and performs well, I perfer the single 18" driver. The Dragon and Empire has similar performance. The Empire has better slam and output over the Dragon. But your going from Sentinel to the Empire. I can see why you want it.

+1

My Conquest is still top dog!!
post #12388 of 19461
I wanted to try something new. I also wanted to hear how dual subs would improve the sound in my room. And I've always wondered how a good sealed sub sounds and what improvements it would bring to the experience. Then came the announcement of the Empire. Then I saw the price and read that I could have it in a week. All these factors aligned, and I typed in my cc # and purchased one . I regret I didn't have the funds at the time to try two. Now I have an itch to try an uber ported, complex design. Hopefully Epik has something in the works there.
post #12389 of 19461
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Originally Posted by Hksvr4 View Post

Same here. Althought the Empire looks and performs well, I perfer the single 18" driver. The Dragon and Empire has similar performance. The Empire has better slam and output over the Dragon. But your going from Sentinel to the Empire. I can see why you want it.

Not saying that i dont believe that the Empire has more slam, and output than the Dragon, but how do we know this?
post #12390 of 19461
I've been busy setting up and enjoying my Empire the past week, and wanted to ask a quick question. My Yamaha 663 has a built in receiver. It defaults to natural, but I can also select flat, should I switch it to this?
Right now, to me my system sounds good, so I'm kinda scared to buy a mic and get REW because I'm sure I'll find a ton of problems that will just be a pain in the butt...
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