Official Epik Subwoofer Thread - Page 438

Originally Posted by graphicguy

So, does this mean that those of us who have previous iterations of Epik subs (I have a Phoenix that I love) have limited edition subs?

Originally Posted by Rkp3

Well I got my Empire and its quite impressive. Had a nice little chat with Chad and some future stuff was hinted at, can't say what but the future is bright!

No real first impressions yet, I ran MCACC 2-3 times and tried to figure out the symmetry, all ch adjust and front align but didn't really get it where I want. Positioning the Empire takes some real effort and patience as its quite massive for its compact size. It's built solid like a tank just as described before, hell of a cabinet. Both woofer cones had some nice excursion in the M&C, Cloverfield, Sunshine and U571 scenes I watched.

Still a long way to go, I think I'll eventually need a more advanced EQ setup to get it all sounding its best. The amp gets pretty warm but the auto on works rather well, turns off when no LFE is detected faster than my Velodyne and cools down fast. I'm definitely a happy Epik customer. Thumbs up people!

Originally Posted by noysboy

My pair of empires just posted on audiogon

Originally Posted by bsoko2

Why?

Originally Posted by noysboy

I like them a LOT, but ultimately am going to live with a pair of MFW-15's due to cost. The empires were tighter and cleaner on music than the MFWs, but I got the MFWs for a crazy price (C/D stock, cabinet damage), so I cant justify keeping the empires over the MFWs.

I also have a Conquest for movies. It plays lower than the dual empires by a noticeable margin in my room. (sorry, no graphs or numbers to back that up).

Originally Posted by Sick Mother

Noysboys,

What was your impression of the Empires vs. the Conquest? If you could only have one or the other, which would it be, and why? I'm asking because I am debating dual Empires or an ED A7-450, mainly for HT use.

Thanks.

John

Originally Posted by bsoko2

I too have a Conquest but prefer the Empires as they have a more detailed cleaner bass. The Conquest is great for a bottom feeder but the Empires have a far better SQ for bass. When I palyed them all together, the bass was too muddy with freqs. Conquest is for sale.

Bill

Originally Posted by TnTBigman

...so Rkp3, indulge us a little about Epik's "future stuff" . New products in the works? PM me, I won't tell. ever.

Originally Posted by TnTBigman

Furniture sliders that can be bought at lowes or homedepot will help allot in sub movement/ placement. Sure beats the feeling that you're in a strongman competition- and behind after only the first sub :P . I have MCACC as well. It dosent really help in eq-ing the sub so to speak. But find that sweet spot for the Empire first (via the sub crawl test, or 1/3 the length of the wall etc) then when your satisfied with how it sounds at the listening position (LP), run MCACC for standing waves reduction. I have my Empire ~ 6 ft away from my LP with one driver facing into it, line of sight uninterupted. See what works for you and your room.

Originally Posted by Rkp3

I wish I could but Chad specifically told me not to mention it anywhere, especially on AVS. He is of the opinion that we tend to blow everything out of proportion and find ways to complain about magnet strength to cone ratio or w/e and I tend to agree. I can only say it will be smaller than the Empire, still two speakers just different kinds It made me reconsider getting a second Empire, if I ever do that is..

Originally Posted by mrmagloo

Bummer - Sounds like he's going to make the 12" version first for the lower end market, instead of the heading toward the high end. Oh well...

Originally Posted by Rkp3

Gov, yea I think Chad basically had the same opinion about the Phoenix, Dragon and Dynasty but ultimately the Conquest is still king. Though he confidently replaced his Conquest with dual Empires lol. I wish I would have known about Epik sooner and got the Phoenix actually

mrmagloo, I wouldn't say the 12" is low end, he only makes high end subs and thats been his focus for a while. There is probably another high end dual 18" monster coming as he also hinted at a product in the $2000 price range. I don't think they've been there or offered products at that price, save for the intro conquest price. I have high hopes he'll continue to do his best since he treats it more like a passion than a job, gotta respect that. It's not strange to think he he more products lined up is it? The Empire is what, his 9th or 10th sub? Yes Epik has been around for 3 years but this is, as they say, the tip of the iceberg really

Originally Posted by mdm1699

"He is of the opinion that we tend to blow everything out of proportion and find ways to complain"

Originally Posted by mrmagloo

Rkp - No, I didn't mean lower quality by any stretch, but more in the way of replacing the lower end of the former product line, the Vanquish and Sentinals (the 12"ers), instead of the Phoenix, Dynasty, Conquests (the 18"ers). Imho, everything they've made is a great product. Although he told me he was working on smaller, modular Conquest replacment, that very well have been the Twin Empires? I dunno, but I'll be all over that dual 18", if there's any truth to that. If we're lucky, he'll offer a Twin Everest (or whatever he'll call them) deal too!


mdm - I'm starting to wonder if you're partially retarded or something? Are you completely unable to rationally discuss the product and the company this thread was created for, or are you just one of those spineless dweebs that lurk in the shadows and snip at people from the anonymous safety of their tiny subterranean apartments?

Let me say this, again, for the umpteen time. Nobody questions he makes great stuff. If he's worried about folks speculating, debating misinformation, and what the future might bring, that's real easy to solve. Provide clear, consistent guidance, spec's and documentation, and respond promptly to inquiries from both new customers and old. When you give inconsistent tidbits to different folks and force people to try and piece things together, that's just not helpful on any level and is exactly why this kind of stuff happens. Nobody wants to harp on some of the growing pain issues, but sweeping them under the rug certainly doesn't help anything. I trust even the most cerebrally challenged resident can figure that out, right mdm? Or, am I giving you too much credit?

Originally Posted by mdm1699

Too much credit and u r too wordy. U whine like a girl and curse like one. Sheesh. Everything Chad now makes is lower end.......I wish he had the old line.......I wish he would divulge more.....blah blah blah.What can I say! Whining annoys me

Originally Posted by mrmagloo

Put on some Chapstick and change your name to Fanboi, if you cannot even attempt to have a balanced and constructive discussion. Evidently, you only read what you want, which is pretty obvious after I've raved non-stop about my Phoenix and the rest of his products, even in my post you just quoted. Would you like me to break it down for you in little pieces so you can more easily digest?

Originally Posted by mdm1699

Ok dude man-hug. Maybe we both need to just chill. If you are going to support the man and his passion then commit. Don't do it gratuitously. Don't give an inch then take a mile. I was an SVS fan for years. I still love them and have the utmost respect for their products. However, I just don't feel like waiting years to try a new product. That does not give me the right to go pee on the SVS threads. I move on. I understand your impatience. Do you honestly think there aren't more of us who are eager to see what Chad is working on next? Really! However, it is not in his best interest to divulge those things. Even as the earlier poster noted that Chad asked him not to reveal new product details, we still queried him on the forum. He didn't have to say anything and a pm would have been more appropriate. Again, I am anxious to see what Chad is brewing but I also don't want to drive the passion or fun out of him. Modest, respectful, quiet dude. I got him on the phone the "second" time I called the company to order my Empire. Whew! Now you have made me wordy. Just preview your post before you post. There were some ugly assertions there.


"Let me say this, again, for the umpteen time. Nobody questions he makes great stuff. If he's worried about folks speculating, debating misinformation, and what the future might bring, that's real easy to solve. Provide clear, consistent guidance, spec's and documentation, and respond promptly to inquiries from both new customers and old. When you give inconsistent tidbits to different folks and force people to try and piece things together, that's just not helpful on any level and is exactly why this kind of stuff happens. Nobody wants to harp on some of the growing pain issues, but sweeping them under the rug certainly doesn't help anything. I trust even the most cerebrally challenged resident can figure that out, right mdm? Or, am I giving you too much credit?"

That is not the Epik that I know from following this thread. I thought for a second that I was on a MFW thread.

Finally, sup with the hoity-toity fancy words sermons. Some of us are beavers, some of us are peacocks. We all have our place aaight duuude(cyber-hug)