Official Epik Subwoofer Thread - Page 476

Originally Posted by dasanii19

It was set to 80,not 120. Your saying I need to manually set it to 120hz? will I notice a sq difference at 120hz instead of 80hz?

Originally Posted by dasanii19

Also, audyessy set my sub to -6db., if I want more bass is it ok to turn the db up? Is there some sort of "rule" of thumb for this?

Originally Posted by dasanii19

It was set to 80,not 120. Your saying I need to manually set it to 120hz? will I notice a sq difference at 120hz instead of 80hz?

Originally Posted by warlord260

-6 DB is ok to start. If you want more you can set the trims in the receiver up to another 3 db, which would put you to -3db on the sub channel. If you have a spl meter what is it telling you with the receiver test tones?

Originally Posted by mrjulius

I'm looking for some help with my setup.

I currently own a Dynasty attached to an Antimode. I love the Dynasty, but like others, I have felt the mid-bass was lacking. I really like the Dynasty for Blu-rays and deep bass music. I want to keep it. This thing is a real bottom feeder (quoting someone else). However, I want to fill in the mid-bass region.

I ordered an Empire and it shipped yesterday. I spent yesterday reading the April/May section of this thread. It seems that some people were trying to integrate the Empire with other subwoofers and not being thrilled with the results. Mixing ported with sealed gave an overall muddied bass as one example. I know that YMMV, but having this in mind, here are my thoughts: Please feel free to correct anything that I missed/misquoted/don't understand.

1- The Dynasty is best suited for the deepest bass.

2- The Empire's strong point is the mid-bass and has a rolloff starting at 20 HZ.

3- I can use both of them together as one big, yet modular, subwoofer.

4- I ordered a Behringer DCX2496. The thought here is to set the Behringer up so that the Empire will take the mid to high load and the Dynasty will take the low load. I don't know where this crossover would be. Maybe 30 HZ? The Behringer has many different options for the rolloff curve to help with this integration of the two subs.

5- I know that there are many factors to consider. Placement of each sub, gain on each sub, phase matching, delay, etc.

6- Behringer DCX2496 can fine tune each sub independently from the other with varying rolloff curves and a myriad of other things I have yet to learn (can you say winter project).

7- I can use the Antimode to then tame both subs or I can learn to use REW (more winter project) and then use the Behringer DCX2496 for corrections. I believe that the Behringer will allow me to correct each sub independently.

8- REW will eventually be my friend in trying to accomplish this.

9- I'm going to need some time and patience for this.

Any thoughts are appreciated.
Thanks,
MrJulius

Originally Posted by mrjulius

6- Behringer DCX2496 can fine tune each sub independently from the other with varying rolloff curves and a myriad of other things I have yet to learn (can you say winter project).

7- I can use the Antimode to then tame both subs or I can learn to use REW (more winter project) and then use the Behringer DCX2496 for corrections. I believe that the Behringer will allow me to correct each sub independently.

8- REW will eventually be my friend in trying to accomplish this.

9- I'm going to need some time and patience for this.

Any thoughts are appreciated.
Thanks,
MrJulius

Originally Posted by Gov

This is not Epik specific, but I wanted to ask you fine ladies and gents that subscribe to this thead the following question. Why is it that everywhere I look and read, people have this "obsession" with mid-bass? Correct me if I am wrong, but shouldn't we want a subwoofer to be able to reproduce the lowest notes to their best abilities and leave most of the "mid-bass" to the mains? Shouldn't a good set of main speakers be able to reproduce better mid-bass than a lowly subwoofer? Why are we seeing lots of people saying that the older Epik subwoofer line "lacks" in the mid-bass department? Personally, I do not find that to be an issue at all with my Phoenix. Nor did I find it an issue with any of my past subwoofers as well.

Someone educate me please

Originally Posted by Gov

This is not Epik specific, but I wanted to ask you fine ladies and gents that subscribe to this thead the following question. Why is it that everywhere I look and read, people have this "obsession" with mid-bass? Correct me if I am wrong, but shouldn't we want a subwoofer to be able to reproduce the lowest notes to their best abilities and leave most of the "mid-bass" to the mains? Shouldn't a good set of main speakers be able to reproduce better mid-bass than a lowly subwoofer? Why are we seeing lots of people saying that the older Epik subwoofer line "lacks" in the mid-bass department? Personally, I do not find that to be an issue at all with my Phoenix. Nor did I find it an issue with any of my past subwoofers as well.

Someone educate me please

Originally Posted by Gov

This is not Epik specific, but I wanted to ask you fine ladies and gents that subscribe to this thead the following question. Why is it that everywhere I look and read, people have this "obsession" with mid-bass? Correct me if I am wrong, but shouldn't we want a subwoofer to be able to reproduce the lowest notes to their best abilities and leave most of the "mid-bass" to the mains? Shouldn't a good set of main speakers be able to reproduce better mid-bass than a lowly subwoofer? Why are we seeing lots of people saying that the older Epik subwoofer line "lacks" in the mid-bass department? Personally, I do not find that to be an issue at all with my Phoenix. Nor did I find it an issue with any of my past subwoofers as well.

Someone educate me please

Originally Posted by mdm1699

The other thing is people who mention sub 20hz in some movies usually talk about the Tap Scene in Finding Nemo or the Helicopter Scene in BHD. WTH! Don't those scenes last about 15 seconds combined?

Originally Posted by Email to Epik

I'm emailing you in regards to
the Epik Legend that is due out this month. The "Add to cart" button
on the product's page does not function, so I'm presuming it's just
not out yet. Is this correct, or this there an error on the page?

When will the item actually be released this month?

Originally Posted by Email from Epik

The Legend is not yet available. We are taking preorders by phone now and will begin taking preorders online (with the Add To Cart button) in a week or two.

The Legend will be released at the end of the month, although we do not have an exact date yet.

We will begin shipping out preorders at that time as well.

Originally Posted by stepyourgameup

There are many more scenes than just those two. WOTW, Kung Fu Panda, Cloverfield, etc.

Originally Posted by TheSteelPhantom

What are the major parts in War of the Worlds? All I can think of is when the alien machines blow their horns. That it?

Originally Posted by TheSteelPhantom

What are the major parts in War of the Worlds? All I can think of is when the alien machines blow their horns. That it?

Originally Posted by stepyourgameup

There are many more scenes than just those two. WOTW, Kung Fu Panda, Cloverfield, etc.

Originally Posted by stepyourgameup

When the pod emerges from the ground mainly. Also Terminator Salvation has a good scene when the giant machine destroys the gas station.

Originally Posted by mdm1699

Didn't "skidoosh"/whatever you call it last like 7 seconds. Also, are you guys inferring that I wouldn't hear that sub 20hz material or are you saying that it wouldn't be as impactful? The scenes that get mentioned...........are they sub 20hz or do the scenes "extend" below 20hz? Take for instance any of these scenes that you mention...........am I losing the entire wave or just a nano-second of the wave that extends below 20hz? Are we talking about what may really be less than 1% of our movie time? All this talk about subs that are getting more and more powerful amps leads me to think that we are feeling "more" bass as opposed to "deeper" bass.

Originally Posted by mdm1699

The other thing is people who mention sub 20hz in some movies usually talk about the Tap Scene in Finding Nemo or the Helicopter Scene in BHD. WTH! Don't those scenes last about 15 seconds combined?

Originally Posted by mdm1699

How many of us really push those expensive subs to reference level? It seems that we are paying for performance that we rarely, if ever, use. I guess some buy Corvettes to burn tires, and some buy them just because they can(and cringe at the thought of burning rubber). Some buy a mustang for the same reasons. Each reason is ok really. As long as we are happy/content.

Originally Posted by craig john

Go to the "sticky's" at the top of the forum. You'll find a "sticky" entitled: "The Master List of DVD, HD-DVD & Blu-ray Movies with BASS Thread...With WaterFalls" The 2 movies you mentioned barely scratch the surface.

To make it easy, here's a direct link:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=755493

Almost 5,000 posts, and over a half million views to date. Have fun.

Craig

Originally Posted by irishluck73

I drive my 335i like I stole it I also run my Sentinels at 0 without any issues what so ever. I keep turning it up and they keep on running harder with no sense of distortion or maxing out.

Originally Posted by mdm1699

I have a feeling that you are happy. If you had quad Conquests you would still be happy. Do you push them for short bursts just for the heck of it or do you run them like that normally for the duration of use.

Originally Posted by mdm1699

I have a feeling that you are happy. If you had quad Conquests you would still be happy. Do you push them for short bursts just for the heck of it or do you run them like that normally for the duration of use.