Official Epik Subwoofer Thread - Page 611

NO! Room EQ is nice and some do the job better then others but there is no substitute for room treatment. EQ and Room Treatment is the best way to go.

+1, I have a 8033S and it made a big difference for my 2 Empires. Adding the bass traps a month later smoothed the bass out even more. Re-ran the 8033S after installing the bass traps put the icing on the cake.

13 x 13? Are you serious? Will you be sitting on your Empire? Lol - that will probably sound (feel!) incredible.

Yeah, with an 88" screen. My wife is scared to death!

My Legend amp just died, just when I actually had a few free hours to use my HT.

Quick question. Going to pick up a used epik empire this week. How hard would it be to load this thing into my suv by myself? I'm going to bring a dolly, so I don't expect to have to carry it for long distances....my biggest worry is being able to deadlift it into my suv by myself. I'm pretty stron and regularly lift weights....just don't want to be stuck in a position where I'm not able to load or unload this thing!

It weighs over 100 lbs. My concern would be lifting that much weight and this big of an object without damaging the speakers on either side since I'm assuming it won't be in a box.

It will be in the original double box.

Take off the grills before you try to lift it so you don't break them.

Don't worry, you can lift it. If for some reason you can't, please report back to us so we can make fun of you... I'll send a couple of my routines your way to bulk you up.

J/K man!!! lol

Don't hurt yourself bro.

Snap, just saw that you are going to have it in the original shipping box. It might be to bulky for one person to handle... Not that it's too heavy, the box dimensions might make it unmanageable though.

I had mine originally delivered to my office and had the help of the driver to load it into my suv (after taking off the pallet). Unloading wasn't so bad nor going down the stairs from my driveway to the house with a dolly. Unpacking wasn't bad with the help of sliding on the carpet. It' a large awkward box, tho, and hopefully who you pick it up from can give you a bit of a hand?

What's the status ?? New amp on its way!??

My setup may quell her fears (unless you are encouraging this! ):

2 Empires in room 10'x13'x7' (attic ceiling: only 7' in the center, sloping to 4')

With EQ (QSC DSP-30) using cuts to tame to the room's response to flat within +/- 2dB, creating the smoothest, effortless and most enveloping lows ever!

Remind her that with this much muscle/headroom available, the system will create that sense of ease and effortlessness at all volumes.

Besides, you can always turn the Empire's gain down, if necessary...

Nah!

Enjoy!

This is a great thread. After reading through most of it, I was a little worried about the customer service--how some people had a hard time getting hold of someone.

Being that this was my biggest fear in dealing with Epik, I decided to try and call myself--to see if someone would respond or I could get someone to talk to. I got an answer on the second try.

Minutes later, I put in my order for two Empires.


How long did it take most of you to get 'em?

Mine took 4 days. Chicago to West Palm Beach

I was lucky on Monday when I called but I have been calling since with no luck to get my failed Legend amp replaced. I know it will eventually get sorted out but I really should not have to call every hour on the hour just to talk to someone. It would be great if they returned their messages or emails, then I would not have a problem. I had planned on adding another Legend to my system but now, I'm not so sure. I would spend more for better customer service, or even service that existed.

It really makes me re-evaluate my buying strategy, trying to squeak out the best bang for the buck is not working for me.

Out of the last big electronics purchased I have made:

Panasonic G Series Plasma: Rising Black Level Issue
Onkyo TX-NR1008 - Circuit Board residue issue
Epik Legend - Bad amp
Denon AVR1312 - Emmited so much RF interference that it stopped my RF remotes from Working
Onkyo TX-NR509 - OSD problems and Net function locked up device.

If I didn't have bad luck, I wouldn't' have any.

I feel ya on the faulty gear. My first receiver, an Integra 50.2, didn't work out of the box. It kept switching listening modes on its own. They wanted me to ship it out to them and wait up to 6 weeks to get it back--this is 1 day after taking it out of the box. I was lucky enough to catch them RIGHT at the release of the 50.3--so I was able to finagle a swap out for the newer model. I was persistent and was able to raise a big enough stink to get it done, the first 2 phone operators I spoke to were dead set on the refurb. Why should I send in a 1 day old $1500 receiver for repairs? (I brought this up on another forum and I got the lame "you get what you pay for" response from some snob).

These are my first subs, if I have ANY problem whatsoever with them, I'm putting them up for sale and trying another brand. Of course cataloging my experience wherever I see fit. I had my eyes on dual HSU VTF-15H's as well and won't hesitate to give them my business if this doesn't work out.

My dad, who got me into HT audio, is a little more sympathetic to the companies. His horrible experiences with a certain Marantz receiver has him believing that HT components are tough to nail, and are therefore buggy by nature.

Needless to say, I have much less leniency when it comes to failure. The money I gave them for this gear isn't broken--it works just fine. Therefore I expect the same on their end.

Hurray, got a call from Chad and my new amp is on the way! Faith restored

Mine showed up this morning. Been playing around with them for the past hour or so.

Spread them about eight feet apart and sat between them on the carpet. Listened to a couple sub test tracks.

I gotta admit, I'm slightly nauseous.

Perhaps some of the fellow Epik owners may be interested in this thread:

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1414620/epik-15-diy-slot-ported-subwoofer

Steve

Almost sounds like the same driver for the Empire with the HPF and boost...nice project!

They don't appear to be identical. The drivers used in the Empire have a stamped basket and smaller magnets.

Given the reference to HPF and boost, perhaps the post was regarding the amplifer and not the speaker driver.
Edited by dboff01 - 6/9/12 at 6:18am

Oh, maybe.

Cool project you have going and nice job on the cuts.

Yes, should have said amp...

BTW, replacing the amp on my Conquest was a breeze.

Been up and rocking for the last couple weeks.

Here is a question for Empire owners; Has anyone graced their sub with an isolator such as a gramma, or subdude or great gramma?

I have the Empire, I know it's a sealed sub and I'm aware that it creates very little vibration, is there positive results with an isolator or is it unnecessary?

Thank you

Completely unnecessary IMO. I have Empires on carpet over cement (in my basement) and one upstairs on hardwood floors. The Empire creates NO vibrations. An isolator simply isn't helpful at all for the Empires or SubMersives (I own both subs).

Thanks Counsil. I'm familiar with your set up. I first saw it before I got my Empire which is over a year now. I first thought you were completely psychotic (in a good way of course), but after some education, I've learned that the more subs you have, the better bass response you produce, and now I have my second Empire arriving on Monday

I suppose I should be more focused on treating my room with bass traps.

I'm in the market for or either Empire or a dual Legend, my budget is around $1000, my living room is about 20 by 25 with a vault ceiling and is a open plain so the dinning room and the kitchen is open to the living room, and there's cat walk run a cross the living, which one should I buy