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post #19261 of 19641
3/21/13 at 10:03am
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post #19262 of 19641
3/21/13 at 3:22pm
Looking for an honest opinion or two here. I'm tossing around the idea of purchasing a used Epik Legend. I'm a little concerned about the lack of communication with their customers lately, some questionable reliability reports and the fact that the owner seems to be MIA for some time now. I'd be spending somewhere in the area of $250-$300 for the sub. I'm a little worried that if something goes wrong with it tomorrow there's no way to get replacement parts or servicing done on it and I'd just be out $300. Do you think it's worth the risk?
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post #19263 of 19641
3/21/13 at 3:27pm
Your guess is as good as anyone here. I'd say go with your gut feeling. There are a lot of options out there, why not go with something that you know is around now?
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post #19264 of 19641
3/21/13 at 3:45pm
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Your guess is as good as anyone here. I'd say go with your gut feeling. There are a lot of options out there, why not go with something that you know is around now?

I'm trying to keep the price down but still get the most for my money. I know it kind of sounds silly to be looking to spend less and get more. I just figured that, in that kind of price range, I'm not going to be able to find anything that performs anywhere near the Epik. Of course, if it blows up tomorrow it doesn't really matter. I've been looking for good deals on used DefTech subs in my area too but most of them are either really old or people are asking way too much for them. I actually just happened to come across the Epik when I was searching around for DefTechs.

I should also note that I'm trying to slide this purchase under the WAF since she doesn't think we need a subwoofer at all. wink.gif
Edited by bhpizza - 3/21/13 at 3:54pm
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post #19265 of 19641
3/21/13 at 6:02pm
That sub last sold for $400 with free shipping. Regardless of what the list price was, that's the price you should be mentally discounting from. 300 seems high seeing as there's no warranty. Epik you already know is flaky and replacement parts look to be problematic. Offer 150.
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post #19266 of 19641
3/21/13 at 6:20pm
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Originally Posted by Chu Gai View Post

That sub last sold for $400 with free shipping. Regardless of what the list price was, that's the price you should be mentally discounting from. 300 seems high seeing as there's no warranty. Epik you already know is flaky and replacement parts look to be problematic. Offer 150.
Thanks for the advice! I will rethink my price point for this sub.
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post #19267 of 19641
3/22/13 at 9:12am
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Thanks for the advice! I will rethink my price point for this sub.

I agree. In addition, I'd discount it a bit further if it were purchased new prior to early 2012 since AFAICT that's when the amps were likely to be more problematic on the Legend.
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post #19268 of 19641
3/22/13 at 10:15am
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Thanks for the advice! I will rethink my price point for this sub.
I don't know who this person on Craigslist is but likely they're counting on some element of ignorance on the part of the buyer. A potential buyer just might hit up the website and be totally unaware of the drama that surrounds this company which is now finds itself in some state of limbo. The best deals are the ones you can walk away from so if you can't, you're going to cede the higher ground to the seller. Whatever product you plan on buying, make sure it works. Don't take the person's word that it does and has no issues. Don't buy into that BS that it was only lightly used and the only reason he's getting rid of it is because he's moving, the neighbors, the wife is hassling him ,etc.
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post #19269 of 19641
3/22/13 at 11:51am
It seems though that the craiglist's seller is offering to do test runs before the potential buyer can make the purchase. So how does that require ignorance on the buyers part?
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post #19270 of 19641
3/22/13 at 11:58am
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Originally Posted by bhpizza View Post

Looking for an honest opinion or two here. I'm tossing around the idea of purchasing a used Epik Legend. I'm a little concerned about the lack of communication with their customers lately, some questionable reliability reports and the fact that the owner seems to be MIA for some time now. I'd be spending somewhere in the area of $250-$300 for the sub. I'm a little worried that if something goes wrong with it tomorrow there's no way to get replacement parts or servicing done on it and I'd just be out $300. Do you think it's worth the risk?

If the sub works, $250 seems reasonable. It was on sale for $399 during closeout, but that was an amazingly good price and quickly sold out. A new legend is worth more than $399.

There's always a risk buying used and for the price you'd be paying, it wouldn't be worth getting it fixed if something went wrong, so the fact that it will be difficult or impossible to get Epik to repair it or sell parts shouldn't come into play.
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post #19271 of 19641
3/22/13 at 12:14pm
I think it's worth it as the drivers is the Legend are unlikely to be the point of failure. If the amp goes, you can always use an external amp to drive the sub.
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post #19272 of 19641
3/22/13 at 2:49pm
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Originally Posted by Chu Gai View Post

That sub last sold for $400 with free shipping. Regardless of what the list price was, that's the price you should be mentally discounting from. 300 seems high seeing as there's no warranty. Epik you already know is flaky and replacement parts look to be problematic. Offer 150.

I will buy up to 50 Legends at that price AND pay shipping on them. While I normally agree with chu that seems too low. I would bet the drivers would cost more...
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post #19273 of 19641
3/22/13 at 3:41pm
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I will buy up to 50 Legends at that price AND pay shipping on them. While I normally agree with chu that seems too low. I would bet the drivers would cost more...
Maybe they do but keep in mind they're bought from some place in China in a one time somewhat large quantity. The import records said he bought something like 400 ctns of drivers so at the very least, he sprung for at least that many. My point is that in negotiations one party is going to ask more than the thing is worth and the other a bit less. If you ask for what may well be the reasonable price for the sub, you just might find the buyer wants a bit more than you were thinking of.
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post #19274 of 19641
3/22/13 at 3:51pm
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Maybe they do but keep in mind they're bought from some place in China in a one time somewhat large quantity. The import records said he bought something like 400 ctns of drivers so at the very least, he sprung for at least that many. My point is that in negotiations one party is going to ask more than the thing is worth and the other a bit less. If you ask for what may well be the reasonable price for the sub, you just might find the buyer wants a bit more than you were thinking of.
Chu, I smile every time I read one of your posts. Something about baseball and baby seals..
:-) ( although I think that post was deleted)... And if the buyer of anything wants more money for something than I am willing to pay, I just pass! :-)
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post #19275 of 19641
3/22/13 at 4:59pm
I vaguely remember that comic guy. I think the mods gave me a vacation for that one. I too walk away if the price isn't to my liking. Just about everything out there is negotiable. Even in places you wouldn't expect like Home Depot, you can get a discount off the asking price.
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post #19276 of 19641
3/29/13 at 7:01pm
I still love my Epik Conquest. Chad should never have stopped making these, best under 2K sub and I got it for only 1K used. Screw WAF.
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post #19277 of 19641
3/30/13 at 7:51am
"Screw WAF."

says the guy who lives by himself.biggrin.gif
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post #19278 of 19641
3/30/13 at 8:41am
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"Screw WAF."

says the guy who lives by himself.biggrin.gif
And the downside of that? rolleyes.gif
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post #19279 of 19641
3/30/13 at 10:07am
You can be banned for attempting to sell things without using AVS classifieds, be careful.
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post #19280 of 19641
4/1/13 at 9:28am
Whelp, just to potentially add fuel to the fire...

One of my Empire's went off-line last week - the one I bought direct from Epik in July 2010, so it is still inside the 3-year warranty.

There is no audio, the power light does not come on (neither red nor green), but I do notice there must be a power draw - if the unit has been off for a few minutes and I turn it on, the lights from the same outlet dim ever so slightly, like the capacitors are charging up.

I did swap power cables with a known-working cable, and checked the fuse - it's fine (swapped with spare anyway to test).

I've sent an email and left a voicemail, and tried to call again just now, but get no response - not surprising for the Easter weekend normally, but reading this thread I'm quite annoyed at where this may be leading.

Sigh...

Anyway, if anyone does have a lead on a good/suitable replacement amp, please do let us know...I might need to go that route...

shinksma
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post #19281 of 19641
4/1/13 at 11:24am
Anybody wants to sell youre sub? Im Willing to buy only if youre in NY area. Ty.
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post #19282 of 19641
4/1/13 at 12:35pm
WOW, this thread got a little nasty! Haven't been on this part of the forum in a few years, but I just wanted y'all to know that I am still in awe of my Epik TOWER. Awesome sub, when Epik was making the curved 6" ports wink.gif Haven't heard the empires, or any other epik sub, but for 1200 shipped, I am very pleased after 5 years eek.gif
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post #19283 of 19641
4/1/13 at 6:41pm
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Originally Posted by shinksma View Post

Whelp, just to potentially add fuel to the fire...

One of my Empire's went off-line last week - the one I bought direct from Epik in July 2010, so it is still inside the 3-year warranty.

There is no audio, the power light does not come on (neither red nor green), but I do notice there must be a power draw - if the unit has been off for a few minutes and I turn it on, the lights from the same outlet dim ever so slightly, like the capacitors are charging up.

I did swap power cables with a known-working cable, and checked the fuse - it's fine (swapped with spare anyway to test).

I've sent an email and left a voicemail, and tried to call again just now, but get no response - not surprising for the Easter weekend normally, but reading this thread I'm quite annoyed at where this may be leading.

Sigh...

Anyway, if anyone does have a lead on a good/suitable replacement amp, please do let us know...I might need to go that route...

shinksma

A few pages back (maybe more) someone identified the company supplying the amps for Epik.
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post #19284 of 19641
4/3/13 at 10:54am
Good luck. I know my conquest has done that before, but it was the fuse every time. It takes over 30 minutes to reset itself (unplug the sub in that case).
Even if you reset the fuse, unplug the sub for 30 minutes. Plug it back in and hit the switch. Worth a shot
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post #19285 of 19641
4/3/13 at 11:36am
Is the fuse blown? Can you reset a fuse?
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post #19286 of 19641
4/3/13 at 12:13pm
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Good luck. I know my conquest has done that before, but it was the fuse every time. It takes over 30 minutes to reset itself (unplug the sub in that case).
Even if you reset the fuse, unplug the sub for 30 minutes. Plug it back in and hit the switch. Worth a shot

Sorry but how do you reset a fuse? Or do you mean breaker?
When a fuse blows it needs to be replaced, when a breaker trips after it's cooled down it can be reset.
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post #19287 of 19641
4/3/13 at 5:16pm
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A few pages back (maybe more) someone identified the company supplying the amps for Epik.

I found the Vistar links for the SD-50 and SD-500, but I can't find any retail source for these items, and Vistar doesn't seem to cater to individuals, more like bulk items for supply to manufacturers/integrators like Epik. Has anyone ordered directly from Vistar? (Seems not their usual sales channel, as they have nothing on their website indicating a method thereof.)

I'll keep pestering Epik, hopefully get a response eventually.

Not sure if elmalloc's comment was directed at me, but yes, I did try unplugging for a while to see if that helped "reset" the amp's internals. No dice. And like others, I'm trying to understand your comment regarding "resetting the fuse". Fuses are replaced, Circuit Breakers are reset. Not sure what you mean.

shinksma
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post #19288 of 19641
4/4/13 at 8:53am
Just got off the phone with Chad. They are still there, just apparently overwhelmed.

A replacement amp will be on its way shortly to me.

So...although frustrating, it seems that Epik is alive, just buried with stuff. I have a boss that does the same thing - when overwhelmed simply ignores the phone and emails - but I can go down the hallway and check on him physically. I really hope Chad can get over this problematic supply/demand hump and get back to normal business.

IMHO, YMMV,

shinksma
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post #19289 of 19641
4/4/13 at 9:01am
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Originally Posted by shinksma View Post

Just got off the phone with Chad. They are still there, just apparently overwhelmed.

A replacement amp will be on its way shortly to me.

So...although frustrating, it seems that Epik is alive, just buried with stuff. I have a boss that does the same thing - when overwhelmed simply ignores the phone and emails - but I can go down the hallway and check on him physically. I really hope Chad can get over this problematic supply/demand hump and get back to normal business.

IMHO, YMMV,

shinksma

Seems odd to me that a company that took an almost half year vacation could be overwhelmed. It certainly isn't by recent orders.

Still not buying it.
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post #19290 of 19641
4/4/13 at 11:15am
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Originally Posted by bfreedma View Post

Seems odd to me that a company that took an almost half year vacation could be overwhelmed. It certainly isn't by recent orders.

Still not buying it.

I can imagine various scenarios that satisfy the observations but have wildly different causes. Since I'm not privy to the internals of Epik, I can't say which is more accurate. I guess we'll have to wait and see.

I'll update this thread when I get the new amp and install it, just for closure if nothing else.

shinksma
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