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post #19351 of 20352
I have not visited this thread in a long time, but perception on Epik and Chad sure have changed in that time. Very sad.

I bought an Empire shortly before the Legend came out. While I have not had any issues with it, it is rarely used as it is connected to a system that we only watch occasionally. I did start to unplug it from the wall early on when not in use because it would often make a single loud thump when going from active to stand by mode.

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post #19352 of 20352
I have Dragon not an Empire but what is the amp cut out for the Empire. The Dragons and Empires amp looks the same. I did measure the Dragons amp cutout and its 10.25H 7.25W 3D. If my amp goes out the closest replacement would be the 500 watt bash form parts express would this amp work.
post #19353 of 20352
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Originally Posted by irvin View Post

I have Dragon not an Empire but what is the amp cut out for the Empire. The Dragons and Empires amp looks the same. I did measure the Dragons amp cutout and its 10.25H 7.25W 3D. If my amp goes out the closest replacement would be the 500 watt bash form parts express would this amp work.

I'm not at home right now, so I can't measure the Epik Empire amp dimensions directly.

According to the Vistar website, the dimensions of the SD-50 (which seems to be essentially the same amp used by Epik in the Empire) are:

215 x 285 x 98 mm

Which is: 8.5" x 11.25" x 3 7/8"

I don't know the cutout size offhand, but I seem to recall the cutout was about 3/8" or 1/2" smaller on each edge. Assuming 1/2" per edge, that would mean the cutout was 1" smaller in each dimension:

7.5" x 10.25"

According to Parts Express the BASH amp is:

12" W x 8" H x 3-1/2" D

and the cutout is:

11" x 7"

So that means the BASH amp is a little too big in the long dimension to fit into either Epik (Dragon or Empire) cutout.

Just my estimation, based on available data,

shinksma
post #19354 of 20352
Update: Got a hold of Chad he sent me a new AMP and my Legend is working better then ever!!!

Ha! Well the sourced amp, which is an Epik stock amp, fixed my issue, I'm back in business, Chad is not!

In the mean time I picked up a SVS SB12 for my master bedroom 20x15 open to 5x5 entrance dial set at 12 oclock and all i can say is WOW!!!

Fit, finish, output, AMAZING..sound quality is also much better then the Epik. Selling my now repaired Legend to best offer plus shipping, going with dual SB12 or one SB13 in my living room biggrin.gif
post #19355 of 20352
Wow its seems alot of people are selling their subs before they are doomed. Those svs subs do look awesome.
post #19356 of 20352
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Originally Posted by morrischestnut60 View Post

Why regurgitate the obvious? How many posts does it take to state that it is unacceptable? 10, 100, 1000. It's as if some of you folks assume Chad spends as much time(if any) reading this forum as you spend posting. Sometimes life thows you a a curveball and you have to work with what you have. One.
I suspect along as the apologists here keep trying to suggest this nightmare is somehow acceptable. When the last one finally gives in, I'm sure this thread is going to begin slowly fading away. And for many, Epik and Chad will become just another distant milestone in the rear view. Let it be.
post #19357 of 20352
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Originally Posted by shinksma View Post

I'm not at home right now, so I can't measure the Epik Empire amp dimensions directly.

According to the Vistar website, the dimensions of the SD-50 (which seems to be essentially the same amp used by Epik in the Empire) are:

215 x 285 x 98 mm

Which is: 8.5" x 11.25" x 3 7/8"

I don't know the cutout size offhand, but I seem to recall the cutout was about 3/8" or 1/2" smaller on each edge. Assuming 1/2" per edge, that would mean the cutout was 1" smaller in each dimension:

7.5" x 10.25"

According to Parts Express the BASH amp is:

12" W x 8" H x 3-1/2" D

and the cutout is:

11" x 7"

So that means the BASH amp is a little too big in the long dimension to fit into either Epik (Dragon or Empire) cutout.

Just my estimation, based on available data,

shinksma

I just did measurements, and as expected:

10.25" x 7.5" x 4.5" is the size of the cutout for the Empire.

I think rather than going with a plate-amp that doesn't fit right, I would go with a rack-mount (or table-top if no rack) amp like a Dayton SA1000 or Behringer EP2000 (which could run two Empires, since it supports 2 x 750W at 4 Ohms).

Anyone have any experience using a configuration like that? I assume there are certain things that need to be accounted for, such as the Low-Freq cutoff to prevent driver over-excursions at ultra-low freqs (below 15Hz or 10Hz, maybe?), and making sure to not overpower the drivers in general (I would assume 750W would not be a happy thing to throw at them continuously).

And yes, this means I've mentally given up on Epik providing me a replacement amp. I will keep trying to contact them again, and I won't be making any firm decisions on a replacement amp for a while - the single Empire is providing "enough" low bass - but if I don't get this resolved by mid-summer I should have enough info to do a DIY approach. Too bad things has gotten this far.

shinksma
post #19358 of 20352
Pair of Empires for sale in classifieds
post #19359 of 20352
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Originally Posted by trolly View Post

Pair of Empires for sale in classifieds

Good luck with your sale man, those are some sweet subs, to bad the company took a dive.
post #19360 of 20352
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Originally Posted by shinksma View Post

I just did measurements, and as expected:

10.25" x 7.5" x 4.5" is the size of the cutout for the Empire.

I think rather than going with a plate-amp that doesn't fit right, I would go with a rack-mount (or table-top if no rack) amp like a Dayton SA1000 or Behringer EP2000 (which could run two Empires, since it supports 2 x 750W at 4 Ohms).

Anyone have any experience using a configuration like that? I assume there are certain things that need to be accounted for, such as the Low-Freq cutoff to prevent driver over-excursions at ultra-low freqs (below 15Hz or 10Hz, maybe?), and making sure to not overpower the drivers in general (I would assume 750W would not be a happy thing to throw at them continuously).

And yes, this means I've mentally given up on Epik providing me a replacement amp. I will keep trying to contact them again, and I won't be making any firm decisions on a replacement amp for a while - the single Empire is providing "enough" low bass - but if I don't get this resolved by mid-summer I should have enough info to do a DIY approach. Too bad things has gotten this far.

shinksma

Have you considered contacting the guy in the Elemental Design thread to repair your amp?
post #19361 of 20352
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Originally Posted by basshead81 View Post

Good luck with your sale man, those are some sweet subs, to bad the company took a dive.

Thanks basshead.....we're moving to a smaller house and I won't have a room to accommodate them like I do now. It really is a nice sub.....the cabinets are built like a tank. I keep thinking this would be a great sub to supercharge with a driver/amp kit - something like the "turbo" upgrade that came out for the MFW-15.
Edited by trolly - 4/21/13 at 5:31am
post #19362 of 20352
That's what is stopping me from getting rid of mine. So far its working well without any issues. I bought it in December, hopefully it has newer trouble free amp. I figured if it stops working I can keep the cabinet & replace the drivers & amp unit. Now it would interesting to see what drivers fit in there for even better performance. Maybe some of the subwoofer experts on the forum can chime in about the alternatives. Wonder what the net cabinet volume of Legend is.
post #19363 of 20352
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Originally Posted by vinodk View Post

That's what is stopping me from getting rid of mine. So far its working well without any issues. I bought it in December, hopefully it has newer trouble free amp. I figured if it stops working I can keep the cabinet & replace the drivers & amp unit. Now it would interesting to see what drivers fit in there for even better performance. Maybe some of the subwoofer experts on the forum can chime in about the alternatives. Wonder what the net cabinet volume of Legend is.

If something fails, I would post in the DIY section. No doubt there will be lots of options.
post #19364 of 20352
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Originally Posted by vinodk View Post

That's what is stopping me from getting rid of mine. So far its working well without any issues. I bought it in December, hopefully it has newer trouble free amp.

If you're happy with the performance I wouldn't worry too much at this point. The owner is definitely MIA, so the company is probably gone, but so long as it's working properly then you might as well just enjoy yourself. You may never have an issue. The odds don't seem to work in the owners favor, but I'm sure there are those who have gotten years of fun from their Epik subs.
post #19365 of 20352
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The owner is definitely MIA ...
No so fast! I checked Epik's News Blog just now and...oh, wait, still no update since Dec. 5, 2012. wink.gif
post #19366 of 20352
This just in: Officials at Augusta, where the US Masters was recently held, have charged Epik with not only multiple one stroke penalties for slowness but also multiple two stroke penalties for continuously dropping the ball inappropriately. When asked about this, Tiger Woods said, "Cheaters never prosper."
post #19367 of 20352
Long time lurker here:
Those failures of Internet Direct Sub companies like Elemental Design and Epik are not just damaging for their respective customers, but also for those companies that conduct their business in a legit and sustainable manner. After watching companies like AV123. Elemental Designs and Epik go out of business, I would be very careful recommending and ID company to a friend or even plunking down a larger sum for a large system, out of concern that support may cease, if they would go out of business. if so, I would probably recommend something like SVS.

That said, I did buy Rythmik sub 2 years ago and couldn't be happier with my purchase, so the value proposition for many has worked out. However just ad important as the product itself, is the way the owners conduct business. To that end, the writing was somewhat on the wall with Epik even in 2011 (when I decided on. Rythmik) as their product launches were done in a haphazard fashion, seemingly great products were discontinued and amos were reported to run hot from the get go. That said, I did not see ED's demise coming at all.

I think Chu Gai is providing a great service to many AVS forum members and probably even more lurkers that might have been inclined to purchase from companies that are in the process of going out of business.
post #19368 of 20352
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Originally Posted by feuerball View Post

Long time lurker here:
Those failures of Internet Direct Sub companies like Elemental Design and Epik are not just damaging for their respective customers, but also for those companies that conduct their business in a legit and sustainable manner. After watching companies like AV123. Elemental Designs and Epik go out of business, I would be very careful recommending and ID company to a friend or even plunking down a larger sum for a large system, out of concern that support may cease, if they would go out of business. if so, I would probably recommend something like SVS.

That said, I did buy Rythmik sub 2 years ago and couldn't be happier with my purchase, so the value proposition for many has worked out. However just ad important as the product itself, is the way the owners conduct business. To that end, the writing was somewhat on the wall with Epik even in 2011 (when I decided on. Rythmik) as their product launches were done in a haphazard fashion, seemingly great products were discontinued and amos were reported to run hot from the get go. That said, I did not see ED's demise coming at all.

I think Chu Gai is providing a great service to many AVS forum members and probably even more lurkers that might have been inclined to purchase from companies that are in the process of going out of business.

So Epik took customers money for product they didn't deliver? That's not quite like eD or AV123 from what I know. So in the perfect world of consumers' needs no company shall ever disappear so that the consumer may always have the product they have anointed as deserving of existence? How do you know SVS is well run? Why did Tom Vodhanel and Jim Farina leave SVS? It's hard to say how healthy any company is unless you're involved on the inside...even public companies can go bankrupt or be run poorly...just look at some of our giant failures and government-rescued failures here in the US.

Sometimes to get something new or different you take a risk.
post #19369 of 20352
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Originally Posted by lovinthehd View Post

I find it funny people would even consider BBB as a meaningful entity. They're pretty lame. I have talked to some people who think it's a gubmint entity, too. One time they called me and said they had a complaint against my business. The complaint was from someone we had not done any business whatsoever with. When informing the sales rep that called of that, funny thing they turned it into a sales pitch to join up.

Just for s**** and giggles I just tried to look up SVS...nada; Power Sound Audio...nada; Hsu Research apparently is a member but there's nothing positive or negative at all guess they're off the complaint radar and pay their fees; Ascend Acoustics....nada; Parasound....nada; Velodyne has an F from one report, though.

The BBB is even worse than meaningless they area actually somewhat corrupt. There was a 60 minutes special on them and it was quite the joke. Its a non profit organizations that pays some of its employees more than most of you will ever make and does some really shady things. Essentially if you pay the BBB you get an A+ rating and it doesn't matter much what you do unless its really bad, any new company can fork over $400 or whatever and be A+ certified and up and running as soon as your credit card passes even if you are not a company of any type. I could go do it right now.

What is shady is that the very thing you mentioned seems to be occurring, they use a bad rating as a way to black mail people into paying to become members. For a company that plans to stay in business contacting the BBB can help, they might actually care, the company that is, for someone like Chad, well I am pretty sure he doesn't give a rip.
post #19370 of 20352
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Originally Posted by feuerball View Post

Long time lurker here:
Those failures of Internet Direct Sub companies like Elemental Design and Epik are not just damaging for their respective customers, but also for those companies that conduct their business in a legit and sustainable manner. After watching companies like AV123. Elemental Designs and Epik go out of business, I would be very careful recommending and ID company to a friend or even plunking down a larger sum for a large system, out of concern that support may cease, if they would go out of business. if so, I would probably recommend something like SVS.

That said, I did buy Rythmik sub 2 years ago and couldn't be happier with my purchase, so the value proposition for many has worked out. However just ad important as the product itself, is the way the owners conduct business. To that end, the writing was somewhat on the wall with Epik even in 2011 (when I decided on. Rythmik) as their product launches were done in a haphazard fashion, seemingly great products were discontinued and amos were reported to run hot from the get go. That said, I did not see ED's demise coming at all.

I think Chu Gai is providing a great service to many AVS forum members and probably even more lurkers that might have been inclined to purchase from companies that are in the process of going out of business.

I don't think there is any point in isolating this to ID companies, first of all pretty much all companies now days start out as ID companies, and many smaller established older companies are switching to ID models. So what you really mean is you are stand offish on new companies. Any company or product can have this happen I have bought plenty of stuff at a place like home depot only to have that product get discontinued, home depot wouldn't take the product back in less than a year and there was no way to get replacement parts. I have also seen my share of local brick and mortar businesses fail, and even big ones, if you bought a very expensive piece of electronic equipment at compusa or circuit city then plopped down a 4 year replacement plan you were screwed when they went under and you would be doing the same thing these guys and people with eD subs are doing, finding someone else to repair it.
post #19371 of 20352
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Originally Posted by WhskyTangoFoxtrt View Post

Have you considered contacting the guy in the Elemental Design thread to repair your amp?
A conversation has occurred, but no specific decisions taken...

Essentially, I can afford to "wait and see" whether Epik gets itself organized (re-financed?) enough to answer phones and honor my warranty claim.

If I run out of patience before anything gets done, I can hook up an external separate amplifier to power one or both Empires, and if afterwards I get a replacement Epik plate amp I'll keep it in reserve.

Speaking of which, there has been a concern voiced in separate communications that many of the available/popular external amplifiers are made in China and can fail from bad capacitors and whatnot in the same fashion as the plate amps used in, for example, the Empire.

The Behringers seem to be well-regarded by the IB community, Daytons seem to another option, and the Samsons are somewhat under the radar. Anyone have any comments in these areas? Other, more-expensive but hopefully more-reliable brands to suggest?

And yes, I suppose I need to lurk more in the DIY sub-forum...

shinksma
post #19372 of 20352
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Originally Posted by shinksma View Post

A conversation has occurred, but no specific decisions taken...

Essentially, I can afford to "wait and see" whether Epik gets itself organized (re-financed?) enough to answer phones and honor my warranty claim.

If I run out of patience before anything gets done, I can hook up an external separate amplifier to power one or both Empires, and if afterwards I get a replacement Epik plate amp I'll keep it in reserve.

Speaking of which, there has been a concern voiced in separate communications that many of the available/popular external amplifiers are made in China and can fail from bad capacitors and whatnot in the same fashion as the plate amps used in, for example, the Empire.

The Behringers seem to be well-regarded by the IB community, Daytons seem to another option, and the Samsons are somewhat under the radar. Anyone have any comments in these areas? Other, more-expensive but hopefully more-reliable brands to suggest?

And yes, I suppose I need to lurk more in the DIY sub-forum...

shinksma

Dayton and Behringer are pretty solid. Anything can fail, I am sure it is all being made in China, and in many cases, as cost effective as possible. The difference that I see is that Dayton and Behringer both warranties that are actually honored, and these are big companies that should not just fail/go out of business out of the blue.

I am using a Behringer iNuke3000dsp to power my four DIY subs and it is rock solid. Runs very cool. I did replace the stock fans because they were loud, but aside from that I would recommend the iNuke subs based on price. The dsp models have some nice EQ options and you can upload filters from REW if you are measuring your room and trying to get a flat repsonse and Audyssey is not cutting it.
post #19373 of 20352
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Originally Posted by ack_bk View Post

Dayton and Behringer are pretty solid. Anything can fail, I am sure it is all being made in China, and in many cases, as cost effective as possible. The difference that I see is that Dayton and Behringer both warranties that are actually honored, and these are big companies that should not just fail/go out of business out of the blue.

I am using a Behringer iNuke3000dsp to power my four DIY subs and it is rock solid. Runs very cool. I did replace the stock fans because they were loud, but aside from that I would recommend the iNuke subs based on price. The dsp models have some nice EQ options and you can upload filters from REW if you are measuring your room and trying to get a flat repsonse and Audyssey is not cutting it.

I already use a Behringer 1124 for managing EQ, so all I really need is a plain-old amplifier with a gain/volume knob, balanced inputs (XLR, preferably), and a reasonably flat response up to 80Hz. Heck, an amp that has a High-pass Filter at 15Hz would be fine to prevent driving these speakers with <10Hz content (I suspect they don't like it much), but I can probably manage something close-enough with the 1124.

So an iNuke3000 (non-DSP) or EP4000 (or even EP2000?) would be fine.

Let's see whether Epik is able to help me first, though...

shinksma
post #19374 of 20352
Hello everyone, so seeing that Epik is not getting a whole lot of love on here, I decided to post something to their facebook asking for a reply just to know what is going on with their company. Here is my question to them and their response below:

From me:
"Hi guys, I don't know if you've been reading audio forums like AVS, but there is a perception of your company being out of business. Is there any truth to this? I hate to say but a lot of people are speaking negatively about your company and not that you owe forum users answers, but your reputation is being harmed at least on that website. Can you provide any reassurance to existing and potential customers as to the state of your business? I am an owner of your Empire (love it) so I only come to you as a concerned existing customer. Thanks."

From Epik:
"We're very much alive and trying to restock our product as fast as we can without compromising quality, in order to meet the high demand that's out there. We hope to offer more again soon, but we're afraid it will take about two months before we are fully restocked again and able to offer our Epik products. We are working as quickly as we can to get in parts and get subwoofers built. We will update our FaceBook, Newsletters and Website as soon as we know more.

We understand some perspective customers would like Epik subs and can not get one at this time. We apologize and hope they find a great subwoofer that does work for them from another company if they hope to have one in the next month or two. For those customers willing to wait, we thank you for your patience while we work to catch up to meet the high demand.

As many of you may know, a few internet direct subwoofer companies went out of business in 2012. This increased Epik's sales unexpectedly, and meant that during out Cyber Sale last year, we completely sold out of all our products. We never could have anticipated the volume of customers out there!

We are happy to remain a relatively small ID company, as it doesn't compromise our quality. However, we are working to build more as quickly as possible. Thanks again for your patience and we'll update our FaceBook page, Newsletters, and Website as soon as we have any firm information and/or dates."
post #19375 of 20352
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Originally Posted by bhodge10 View Post

Hello everyone, so seeing that Epik is not getting a whole lot of love on here, I decided to post something to their facebook asking for a reply just to know what is going on with their company. Here is my question to them and their response below:

From me:
"Hi guys, I don't know if you've been reading audio forums like AVS, but there is a perception of your company being out of business. Is there any truth to this? I hate to say but a lot of people are speaking negatively about your company and not that you owe forum users answers, but your reputation is being harmed at least on that website. Can you provide any reassurance to existing and potential customers as to the state of your business? I am an owner of your Empire (love it) so I only come to you as a concerned existing customer. Thanks."

From Epik:
"We're very much alive and trying to restock our product as fast as we can without compromising quality, in order to meet the high demand that's out there. We hope to offer more again soon, but we're afraid it will take about two months before we are fully restocked again and able to offer our Epik products. We are working as quickly as we can to get in parts and get subwoofers built. We will update our FaceBook, Newsletters and Website as soon as we know more.

We understand some perspective customers would like Epik subs and can not get one at this time. We apologize and hope they find a great subwoofer that does work for them from another company if they hope to have one in the next month or two. For those customers willing to wait, we thank you for your patience while we work to catch up to meet the high demand.

As many of you may know, a few internet direct subwoofer companies went out of business in 2012. This increased Epik's sales unexpectedly, and meant that during out Cyber Sale last year, we completely sold out of all our products. We never could have anticipated the volume of customers out there!

We are happy to remain a relatively small ID company, as it doesn't compromise our quality. However, we are working to build more as quickly as possible. Thanks again for your patience and we'll update our FaceBook page, Newsletters, and Website as soon as we have any firm information and/or dates."

So, their business model is to not sell anything until they manufacture a certain amount.

The whole thing is fishy but I do hope they stay in business. More competition is good.
post #19376 of 20352
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Originally Posted by bhodge10 View Post

From Epik:
"We're very much alive and trying to restock our product as fast as we can without compromising quality, in order to meet the high demand that's out there. We hope to offer more again soon, but we're afraid it will take about two months before we are fully restocked again and able to offer our Epik products. We are working as quickly as we can to get in parts and get subwoofers built. We will update our FaceBook, Newsletters and Website as soon as we know more.

We understand some perspective customers would like Epik subs and can not get one at this time. We apologize and hope they find a great subwoofer that does work for them from another company if they hope to have one in the next month or two. For those customers willing to wait, we thank you for your patience while we work to catch up to meet the high demand.

As many of you may know, a few internet direct subwoofer companies went out of business in 2012. This increased Epik's sales unexpectedly, and meant that during out Cyber Sale last year, we completely sold out of all our products. We never could have anticipated the volume of customers out there!

We are happy to remain a relatively small ID company, as it doesn't compromise our quality. However, we are working to build more as quickly as possible. Thanks again for your patience and we'll update our FaceBook page, Newsletters, and Website as soon as we have any firm information and/or dates."

Similar missives have been posted before, but they haven't proven true thus far. None of those methods for communication -- FB, Newsletters or Website -- have been updated in months, so the pronouncement about being more diligent in the future seems unlikely to me. I find it interesting that forums weren't mentioned as a possible avenue for information. Seeing as how that's probably the biggest revenue generator they ever had it's curious they're completely ignoring them now. Perhaps when he mentions wanting "to remain a relatively small ID company" he's referring to sales to just friends and neighbors.
post #19377 of 20352
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Originally Posted by shinksma View Post

I already use a Behringer 1124 for managing EQ, so all I really need is a plain-old amplifier with a gain/volume knob, balanced inputs (XLR, preferably), and a reasonably flat response up to 80Hz. Heck, an amp that has a High-pass Filter at 15Hz would be fine to prevent driving these speakers with <10Hz content (I suspect they don't like it much), but I can probably manage something close-enough with the 1124.

So an iNuke3000 (non-DSP) or EP4000 (or even EP2000?) would be fine.

Let's see whether Epik is able to help me first, though...

shinksma

The 3000 is probably overkill. I am powering 4 15" subs with one and am only using half the power!

I would look at the iNuke 1000
post #19378 of 20352
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Originally Posted by bhodge10 View Post

Hello everyone, so seeing that Epik is not getting a whole lot of love on here, I decided to post something to their facebook asking for a reply just to know what is going on with their company. Here is my question to them and their response below:

From me:
"Hi guys, I don't know if you've been reading audio forums like AVS, but there is a perception of your company being out of business. Is there any truth to this? I hate to say but a lot of people are speaking negatively about your company and not that you owe forum users answers, but your reputation is being harmed at least on that website. Can you provide any reassurance to existing and potential customers as to the state of your business? I am an owner of your Empire (love it) so I only come to you as a concerned existing customer. Thanks."

From Epik:
"We're very much alive and trying to restock our product as fast as we can without compromising quality, in order to meet the high demand that's out there. We hope to offer more again soon, but we're afraid it will take about two months before we are fully restocked again and able to offer our Epik products. We are working as quickly as we can to get in parts and get subwoofers built. We will update our FaceBook, Newsletters and Website as soon as we know more.

We understand some perspective customers would like Epik subs and can not get one at this time. We apologize and hope they find a great subwoofer that does work for them from another company if they hope to have one in the next month or two. For those customers willing to wait, we thank you for your patience while we work to catch up to meet the high demand.

As many of you may know, a few internet direct subwoofer companies went out of business in 2012. This increased Epik's sales unexpectedly, and meant that during out Cyber Sale last year, we completely sold out of all our products. We never could have anticipated the volume of customers out there!

We are happy to remain a relatively small ID company, as it doesn't compromise our quality. However, we are working to build more as quickly as possible. Thanks again for your patience and we'll update our FaceBook page, Newsletters, and Website as soon as we have any firm information and/or dates."

LOL, they have been saying 2 more months since November (this just looks like someone at Epik regurgitating the same reply every month or so). So it looks like almost July now before they have stock? It takes 7-8 months to get more stock if you sellout? Too funny.
post #19379 of 20352
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Originally Posted by ack_bk View Post

The 3000 is probably overkill. I am powering 4 15" subs with one and am only using half the power!

I would look at the iNuke 1000
Looking at the specs of the 3000 vs the 1000, the 3000 is 3 times as powerful (duh!), and the 1000 would handily power a single Epik Empire (dual 15" drivers, nominally 600W RMS according to Epik). But my eventual plan would be to power both of my Empires from external amplifier(s), so a single 3000 in 2-ch mode at 4 ohms would be a nice amp that wouldn't need to be driven too hard to max out the combined 2 Empires' 4 drivers.

In other words, eventually I will be powering 4 15" drivers just like you, and if you are using half-power, then the 1000 wouldn't be enough. If there was an iNuke2000 that would be just about right, but there isn't, AFAICT.

Still, I have time for comparisons and other solutions...

shinksma
post #19380 of 20352
The FB post is complete BS, this is chad, creator of epik, once again attempting to sell everyone false hope. If they are still in business why are the responses asking for warranty being ignored? I have zero respect for Chad, respond and manage your company as you initially promised you would to your customers at time of sale rather then feeding people more bs.





This entire fiasco has ruined Epiks reputation beyond repair.
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