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post #3841 of 20356
I suggest you rent or borrow, or buy, the movie The Haunting. The version with the DTS soundtrack. Horrible movie, but the sheer amount of bass surpasses WoTW IMO. The bass is supposed to be something like a ghost in the walls, knocking and rattling the walls in the movie. So I imagine your new sub will be able to re-create that experience right there in your living room.

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post #3842 of 20356
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Originally Posted by SRR View Post

I have one Knight, with that said, I would get a Tower now, and then get another Tower later . My Knight is in a 19'x11'xalmost 8' room (pretty much a sealed room), and the only reason I would get a second is to balance out the room more, not that it is bad now, but I just wonder what a second one would do. And yes the kitchen up stairs rattles when I play anything near -5dB from reference. And the Kitchen isn't right above the theater which is in the basement.

I would love to add another tower in the back of the room to even everything out.
post #3843 of 20356
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Originally Posted by SRR View Post

I have one Knight, with that said, I would get a Tower now, and then get another Tower later . My Knight is in a 19'x11'xalmost 8' room (pretty much a sealed room), and the only reason I would get a second is to balance out the room more, not that it is bad now, but I just wonder what a second one would do. And yes the kitchen up stairs rattles when I play anything near -5dB from reference. And the Kitchen isn't right above the theater which is in the basement.

why not just get another knight?
your room is what 1672^3?
2 knight should kill in that room
i am around 2400^3, and my twin towers are a little overkill
they are set a few db hot, but they hardly get to flex their muscle
post #3844 of 20356
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Originally Posted by warlord260 View Post

why not just get another knight?
your room is what 1672^3?
2 knight should kill in that room
i am around 2400^3, and my twin towers are a little overkill
they are set a few db hot, but they hardly get to flex their muscle

How can I tell if my tower is flexing its muscles? Look at how much the driver is extending?
post #3845 of 20356
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Originally Posted by stepyourgameup View Post

How can I tell if my tower is flexing its muscles? Look at how much the driver is extending?

if the sub is only turned up to 11:00 on the gain and your running 3 db hot, i would say its got quite a bit left.

i would think you would have a hard time over extending a tower in a normal room
post #3846 of 20356
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Originally Posted by warlord260 View Post

if the sub is only turned up to 11:00 on the gain and your running 3 db hot, i would say its got quite a bit left.

i would think you would have a hard time over extending a tower in a normal room

Are you referring to reference level? I am currently listening to movies at around -20 on my denon. Reason is that my mains suck right now and they start to distort at higher volume levels.
post #3847 of 20356
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Originally Posted by stepyourgameup View Post

Are you referring to reference level? I am currently listening to movies at around -20 on my denon. Reason is that my mains suck right now and they start to distort at higher volume levels.

sub leveled with speakers using spl meter. so speakers set to 75db, and sub set to 78db.
usually set with test tones in your receiver, or with test tone cd.
at -20 your tower is hardly breating if level matched. that is unless your room is ultra huge. say listening pos. 35 ft away
post #3848 of 20356
Tried to order with my credit/debit card today, to buy a Castle. It got "declined", probably because I don't have enough money in my account. I will have the money next week, and thought I could place myself in line for this next batch of subs. Can they actually check to see how much money is in your account??? If so, I'll have to wait a week
Anyone else encounter this?
post #3849 of 20356
They put a hold on your card as soon as the order is placed. That hold will eventually "fall off" the card (I think you can only have a hold for 1 week before it either HAS to become perm, or be removed) and you will then be billed at shipment.

I'm 3 weeks, 1 day today on the wait for my Epik. Nahh, I'm not excited. Hope it comes next week; I'm going to be traveling for work all week and it would be great to come home on Friday and see that beastie sitting there waiting for me!



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Originally Posted by KBMAN View Post

Tried to order with my credit/debit card today, to buy a Castle. It got "declined", probably because I don't have enough money in my account. I will have the money next week, and thought I could place myself in line for this next batch of subs. Can they actually check to see how much money is in your account??? If so, I'll have to wait a week
Anyone else encounter this?
post #3850 of 20356
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Originally Posted by mjfink View Post

I'm going to be traveling for work all week and it would be great to come home on Friday and see that beastie sitting there waiting for me!

AFAIK you must sign for it
post #3851 of 20356
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Originally Posted by cyberbri View Post

I suggest you rent or borrow, or buy, the movie The Haunting. The version with the DTS soundtrack. Horrible movie, but the sheer amount of bass surpasses WoTW IMO. The bass is supposed to be something like a ghost in the walls, knocking and rattling the walls in the movie. So I imagine your new sub will be able to re-create that experience right there in your living room.

Hard to find that one...I had to buy John's 2nd copy to do my demos . It's good for 1 or 2 viewings at most, then it's straight to bass demo cuts. This one will find every piece of room or object resonance in play.
post #3852 of 20356
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Originally Posted by KBMAN View Post

Tried to order with my credit/debit card today, to buy a Castle. It got "declined", probably because I don't have enough money in my account. I will have the money next week, and thought I could place myself in line for this next batch of subs. Can they actually check to see how much money is in your account??? If so, I'll have to wait a week
Anyone else encounter this?

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post #3853 of 20356
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Yes, it checks your debit account to see if you have enough in there. I had the same thing happen to me when I tried to jump the gun to get on the waiting list earlier and hadn't yet had time to get to the bank . As soon as I made a deposit into my account, it worked fine.
post #3854 of 20356
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Originally Posted by Down View Post

Sorry if I missed this skimming, but what are your room dimensions? Your review is especially enticing to me as I have 170 Classics with a 340SE center on the way, trying to deide between 2 knights or 1 Tower.

Thanks.

My room is ~4400 cu ft (19'x23.5'x10'). Congrats on the Ascends, I love 'em so much. Someday I may upgrade to Sierras, but my system sounds so good I'm gonna keep it for a good long while.
post #3855 of 20356
Now it's been delayed to Monday. This is on the same plane of "watched water never boils" - "the anticipated package takes ages to come".

Anyone else had problems like this with FedEx? I'm getting seriously annoyed now.
post #3856 of 20356
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Originally Posted by warlord260 View Post

sub leveled with speakers using spl meter. so speakers set to 75db, and sub set to 78db.
usually set with test tones in your receiver, or with test tone cd.
at -20 your tower is hardly breating if level matched. that is unless your room is ultra huge. say listening pos. 35 ft away

Setting the sub to 78dB will be 5-6dB hot. Not that it's wrong, but when you compensate for the meter's sensitivity, calibrating to 75dB is already 2-3dB hot.
post #3857 of 20356
Well, I was watching Transformers tonight and with about 30 min left to go, my Tower shut down. I assume it got too hot. After a few minutes it came back on. I was pushing the sub kinda hard but it sounded soooo good, no distortion. Maybe I need an external fan blowing on the amp? Anyone else doing this?
post #3858 of 20356
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Originally Posted by cyberbri View Post

Setting the sub to 78dB will be 5-6dB hot. Not that it's wrong, but when you compensate for the meter's sensitivity, calibrating to 75dB is already 2-3dB hot.

i know but i was using that as an example
post #3859 of 20356
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Originally Posted by stepyourgameup View Post

Well, I was watching Transformers tonight and with about 30 min left to go, my Tower shut down. I assume it got too hot. After a few minutes it came back on. I was pushing the sub kinda hard but it sounded soooo good, no distortion. Maybe I need an external fan blowing on the amp? Anyone else doing this?

i am on a break from watching that now
the problem i am having now is the metal back to the plasma rattles
not much i can do with this.
post #3860 of 20356
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Originally Posted by Diseasedyak View Post

My room is ~4400 cu ft (19'x23.5'x10'). Congrats on the Ascends, I love 'em so much. Someday I may upgrade to Sierras, but my system sounds so good I'm gonna keep it for a good long while.

Yes, the best money I've spent on audio has been the Ascends.

That's extremely encouraging as I'm only looking to try and fill 1700 cu ft
post #3861 of 20356
I have a castle and get a fair amount of port noise on really low bass notes...are you guys getting this on the tower's? I kind of wish i went with a tower for the lower extension...
post #3862 of 20356
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Originally Posted by Archbushman View Post

I have a castle and get a fair amount of port noise on really low bass notes...are you guys getting this on the tower's? I kind of wish i went with a tower for the lower extension...

At what frequencies and listening levels? I find it difficult to believe the Castle would have much port noise except at VERY high listening levels with its flared 6" port.
post #3863 of 20356
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Originally Posted by Archbushman View Post

I have a castle and get a fair amount of port noise on really low bass notes...are you guys getting this on the tower's? I kind of wish i went with a tower for the lower extension...

I can't hear any with my Tower. Watching Transformers was blowing my mind tonight. I can't imagine running a conquest or 2 conquests. I can't wait to add 2 HSU MBMs.
post #3864 of 20356
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Originally Posted by stepyourgameup View Post

I can't hear any with my Tower. Watching Transformers was blowing my mind tonight. I can't imagine running a conquest or 2 conquests. I can't wait to add 2 HSU MBMs.

It's a nice experience!

John
post #3865 of 20356
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Originally Posted by Archbushman View Post

I have a castle and get a fair amount of port noise on really low bass notes...are you guys getting this on the tower's? I kind of wish i went with a tower for the lower extension...

This kinda scares me, for I am wanting to get a Castle. Do you have your port too close to the wall maybe? And how much lower will a Tower give you? I guess that last question goes out to everyone here.....

I hope I make the right decision with the Castle!
post #3866 of 20356
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Originally Posted by Archbushman View Post

I have a castle and get a fair amount of port noise on really low bass notes...are you guys getting this on the tower's? I kind of wish i went with a tower for the lower extension...

i also have a castle and get a lot of port noise. it's only on certain frequencies but it's defiantely there. what is your gain set too? mine is only at 12 right now and it's been EQ'd by audyssey and i've even done manual calibration to reference. i've just learned to live with it on occasion. i need to do a sine wave to see where it happens. it's usually on large bass notes (spiderman 3, the sequence where sandman is created is one).

BTW, this is my 2nd one and both of them did it. when i asked chad he said it was normal if you push it. i still don't think i'm pushing it too hard.
post #3867 of 20356
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Originally Posted by jaybarbour View Post

i also have a castle and get a lot of port noise. it's only on certain frequencies but it's defiantely there. what is your gain set too? mine is only at 12 right now and it's been EQ'd by audyssey and i've even done manual calibration to reference. i've just learned to live with it on occasion. i need to do a sine wave to see where it happens. it's usually on large bass notes (spiderman 3, the sequence where sandman is created is one).

BTW, this is my 2nd one and both of them did it. when i asked chad he said it was normal if you push it. i still don't think i'm pushing it too hard.

Man, that worries me, too. I'm waiting on a Castle. Any Tower owners have noticeable port noise? For the record, how big is your room, jaybarbour?
post #3868 of 20356
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Originally Posted by lalakersfan34 View Post

Man, that worries me, too. I'm waiting on a Castle. Any Tower owners have noticeable port noise? For the record, how big is your room, jaybarbour?

What are you worried for? Depending on how the subs are calibrated ,there room size ect..... did you get port noise on your 2 Pb10? I barely/rarely do. I can't imagine the Castle suffering from port noise unless the rooms are large or the subs are very hot??? Dunno myself but that is making me worry now also!!! Damnit hope my Epik Valor doesn't have port noise ..I wouldn't worry the Castle should blow your mind....haven't heard one but enough ppl have praised it and the port noise complaint is probably rare or I haven't heard much. But all ports can make noise. Guess your gonna have to buy two for that 900^3 room
post #3869 of 20356
Damnit hope my Epik Valor doesn't have port noise!!!!!
The Valor is sealed you shouldn't get any port noise
My friend just got a pair of Valors a few weeks ago and they sound awesome.
I am thinking about selling my Klipsch Ultra 2 subs and ordering a pair of Valors.
For the price I might even get 4 Valor's and stack them two in each corner.
That would be a tough call 4 Valors versus 2 Castles or 2 towers..........
post #3870 of 20356
I have noticed zero port noise on my Tower. I have pushed it pretty hard, and nothing. It just keeps on asking for more bass This sub is still amazing me every time I watch it. The Tower is supposed to go about 3hz lower than the Castle according to some other things I've read on the forums. I believe its extension is to about 12 or 13hz at its lowest point, and the Conquest will go to 10hz in room. That would lead me to believe that the Castle will play down to around 16hz.
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