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Originally Posted by Ironmike86 View Post

No it's 6 weeks for each tower =12 weeks ....

12 weeks Mike your not helping much
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Sorry to hit everyone with the bad news on the delays; it really does suck waiting; but, let me tell you, yesterday was like the first Christmas I have had in 15 years. I was like a kid waiting for the FedEX guy.

So, now, first impressions of the Castle. (I'll put up some pics when I have a little more time).

It's... Well... It's kind of hard to describe. If you've never been in a home with a high end (and I mean high end) large subwoofer there's really nothing to compare it to. Actually, that's not true. If you've been in a car that has "bass", then you can get a feel for what this thing does to you house. The room my Castle is in is "huge", about 1000 sq/ft of space (no doors in the first floor of my house), all the rooms adjoining one another. The ceilings are 10FT throughout the first floor. The room itself has terrible acoustics, tile and drywall, nothing to add bass response. I did, however, place the Castle in a corner (which always gives subs a bit more kick).

So, the sound/experience. I have Axiom M80 fronts, and I initially set the system to "Plus", which sends bass to both the fronts and the sub. It was FAR too boomy, the bass was overpowering, but not in a good way. I then set the receiver to "Small", and XOver at 80HZ, the bass was much more manageable; and I'm sure, should I want to, it would allow me to play the M80s at a higher level.

Once I got the sound decent (not because anything was wrong, just didn't feel like configuring it anymore), I then started to queue up the movies (which I have been collecting for the past 6 weeks waiting for the arrival of this thing). The first thing I did was play Master and Commander, "Under Attack" with the cannon blasts.

I kid you not. I was scared as the cannons started to go off. It felt like something unnatural was going on in the house. The glasses (in the cabinet) 20 feet away were "walking". The windows of the house flexed (noticeably). Standing outside the house, (with is concrete block), the bass was not only clearly audible, but the outside wall of the house was passing a significant amount of bass through the concrete. It was so powerful that I really was worried that I was pushing something too hard; examined the EQ and the volume settings; volume ~35%, EQ set to flat. There was no distortion at all (except for all the crap rattling to pieces in the house); and when I removed the grill, I could see the woofer wasn't anywhere near it's limits.

Transformers was next, of course, the "flip" scene in the desert was my first stop.

Unbelievable. It's so low, and so loud, again, it feels like something (this time the walls of the house) is going to let go. The bass just washes over you. By this time, I was convinced that I wasn't going to destroy anything in the house, and I just started to laugh. I couldn't help myself, it was just insanity to have this level of bass in a home. Nightclubs don't even come close to the levels where this thing plays (well, that's not entirely true; MOST nightclubs don't come close). And live performance; again, isn't even close. I'm sure that's because of the volume/size of the arenas, I doubt they have a 15" woofer for every 1000 sq/ft of open space.

My only problem thus far has been the WAF. She's not too happy with the size, or the sound that this thing puts out. She things it's ridiculous (she's right) to have something like this in a house. I think it's ridiculous to spend more then a Conquest of a handbag (I'm right), so hopefully we will come to a reasonable truce soon. It's not bad looking, but it's a big black box; not exactly the thing that she wanted in the living room.

Seriously, those that have 2XCastle/Towers or Conquests.. What are you guys thinking? I was a serious bass head as a young man, but.. 2 Conquests? That must seriously come close to ripping a hole in the space/time continuum.
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mjfink,

Thanks for the review. It's reviews like this that make the wait bearable for all of us who are still waiting. Best of luck coming to an understanding with the wife. IMO, everybody spends money in ways that others will find to be wasteful or absurd. As you said, a $1000+ subwoofer seems stupid to someone not interested in audio, while spending that much on a purse or handbag is equally as silly to someone else. I spend a lot of my disposable income on home theater and audio equipment because I enjoy this hobby immensely. Another of my friends spends most of her money simply on going out to eat and hang out with friends, because that's what she likes doing most. People need to realize that if something brings someone else enjoyment, it's not a "waste" simply because they wouldn't themselves derive pleasure from it. Anyway, I'm done with my soapbox now . Enjoy!
post #3994 of 19636
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Originally Posted by thirdeye11 View Post

Absolutely worth it. I had my Tower at my door in <4 weeks from the time I ordered in late June. The Tower is an amazing subwoofer. I can only wonder what a Conquest must do


Talked with the gal over at Epik. She said that my Tower will most likely be shipping in a week. I ordered on 9/17.....6 weeks? I hope not!
post #3995 of 19636
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Originally Posted by KBMAN View Post

Talked with the gal over at Epik. She said that my Tower will most likely be shipping in a week. I ordered on 9/17.....6 weeks? I hope not!

Wow that's fast...I ordered my Castle 9/10...maybe that's a good sign for me? I won't hold my breath though.
post #3996 of 19636
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Originally Posted by lalakersfan34 View Post

Wow that's fast...I ordered my Castle 9/10...maybe that's a good sign for me? I won't hold my breath though.

They seem to get the completed units in batches. For example they get a shipment on 9/10 and fulfill all orders through 8/31 then they're out again. They get another batch on 10/1 and are able to fulfill all orders through 9/21. The guy who ordered on 9/1 had to wait a full month plus shipping time to get his, but the guy who ordered on 9/21 gets his in a little over 2 weeks. So if he is getting his in a week you should too since you ordered first.
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Originally Posted by lalakersfan34 View Post

mjfink,

Thanks for the review. It's reviews like this that make the wait bearable for all of us who are still waiting. Best of luck coming to an understanding with the wife. IMO, everybody spends money in ways that others will find to be wasteful or absurd. As you said, a $1000+ subwoofer seems stupid to someone not interested in audio, while spending that much on a purse or handbag is equally as silly to someone else. I spend a lot of my disposable income on home theater and audio equipment because I enjoy this hobby immensely. Another of my friends spends most of her money simply on going out to eat and hang out with friends, because that's what she likes doing most. People need to realize that if something brings someone else enjoyment, it's not a "waste" simply because they wouldn't themselves derive pleasure from it. Anyway, I'm done with my soapbox now . Enjoy!

Good thing your not married?? Yet because when you do you already have a huge sub and should alawys have room for one with the waf
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Originally Posted by Ironmike86 View Post

Good thing your not married?? Yet because when you do you already have a huge sub and should alawys have room for one with the waf

just marry a latina they like loud musica with bass
i have 2 towers and a wife from mexico, honduras, and colombia.
dont ask me how it is legal?
but my girlfriend also likes it , mexico
i hope they dont read these forums, because life would be over!
post #3999 of 19636
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Originally Posted by warlord260 View Post

just marry a latina they like loud musica with bass
i have 2 towers and a wife from mexico, honduras, and colombia.
dont ask me how it is legal?
but my girlfriend also likes it , mexico
i hope they dont read these forums, because life would be over!

So your wife is from mexico, Honduras and Colombia?
Your girlfriend is from mexico? Or do you have one from Honduras and Colombia also? I'm confused? Hey at least they all speak Spanish
post #4000 of 19636
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Originally Posted by Ironmike86 View Post

So your wife is from mexico, Honduras and Colombia?
Your girlfriend is from mexico? Or do you have one from Honduras and Colombia also? I'm confused? Hey at least they all speak Spanish

have 3 wives, 1 colombia,1 honduras, 1 mexico. also 1 girlfriend from mexico.
dont worry i get confused also.
just remember to call them all baby, and dont use names. that will get you in trouble!
post #4001 of 19636
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Originally Posted by warlord260 View Post

have 3 wives, 1 colombia,1 honduras, 1 mexico. also 1 girlfriend from mexico.
dont worry i get confused also.
just remember to call them all baby, and dont use names. that will get you in trouble!

or only date the ones named Maria
post #4002 of 19636
Fellas,

My next purchase is the sub for a dedicated basement theater. I am using Ascends 340's. I was leaning towards the av123 MFW-15 but now I am starting to think the epik castle. Room and size is not an issue and I first wanted to only spend around $ 800, but I think spending the extra $ 300 is well worth it. Most are saying to go with the Tower for an extra $ 100. I may do that.
But here are the great news. Shipping is always a back-breaker. Got add another $ 150 or so. So I went to their website to calculate the shipping to my house, and I noticed that they are charging me $ 85 in taxes? So I then realized they are located in the chicagoland area, I dig a little deeper and they are in Crystal lake Il, I am in St charles Il, thats about 30 minutes north of me
I will save some money in shipping, but more importantly I will be able to see and compare the castle and the towers. Hopefully anyway.

Will let you guys know.
post #4003 of 19636
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Originally Posted by reece View Post

Fellas,

My next purchase is the sub for a dedicated basement theater. I am using Ascends 340's. I was leaning towards the av123 MFW-15 but now I am starting to think the epik castle. Room and size is not an issue and I first wanted to only spend around $ 800, but I think spending the extra $ 300 is well worth it. Most are saying to go with the Tower for an extra $ 100. I may do that.
But here are the great news. Shipping is always a back-breaker. Got add another $ 150 or so. So I went to their website to calculate the shipping to my house, and I noticed that they are charging me $ 85 in taxes? So I then realized they are located in the chicagoland area, I dig a little deeper and they are in Crystal lake Il, I am in St charles Il, thats about 30 minutes north of me
I will save some money in shipping, but more importantly I will be able to see and compare the castle and the towers. Hopefully anyway.

Will let you guys know.

Very cool. Definitely let us know if you're able to compare Epiks. I'm sure many of us would be very interested in your impressions.
post #4004 of 19636
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Originally Posted by lalakersfan34 View Post

Very cool. Definitely let us know if you're able to compare Epiks. I'm sure many of us would be very interested in your impressions.

I will. I am hoping they have a listening room.

They are closed on the weekends so I have to wait til Monday to talk with them.
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This thread is worthless with out pics!
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Originally Posted by SRR View Post

This thread is worthless with out pics!

Did you post any pics?
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I wonder if a valor could be used as a mid bass module similar to what HSU offers. Of course I wouldn't put it nearfield as they suggest. I could cross it over at 50hz and then again at 150hz and just let my Tower handle the super low stuff. BTW, the Tower is one hell of a sub. Playing blu-ray movies and PS3 games such as Star Wars, the force unleashed is flat out ridiculous. Only reason I would buy another Tower is to even out the room and have more headroom.
post #4008 of 19636
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Originally Posted by stepyourgameup View Post

I wonder if a valor could be used as a mid bass module similar to what HSU offers. Of course I wouldn't put it nearfield as they suggest. I could cross it over at 50hz and then again at 150hz and just let my Tower handle the super low stuff. BTW, the Tower is one hell of a sub. Playing blu-ray movies and PS3 games such as Star Wars, the force unleashed is flat out ridiculous. Only reason I would buy another Tower is to even out the room and have more headroom.

Yes, you can use any sub for a mid bass module. I would not however have the mid bass run as high as 150, and keep it in the 50 - 80 hz range. Experiment as far as placement and most people do place them near feild. I run mine with my mains and have my true sub near feild.

Bill
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Originally Posted by SRR View Post

This thread is worthless with out pics!

Here are some pics of my Conquest and the box it came in. My dog , Baine, you can use as a size reference weighs 75lbs.
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Originally Posted by stepyourgameup View Post

I wonder if a valor could be used as a mid bass module similar to what HSU offers. Of course I wouldn't put it nearfield as they suggest. I could cross it over at 50hz and then again at 150hz and just let my Tower handle the super low stuff. BTW, the Tower is one hell of a sub. Playing blu-ray movies and PS3 games such as Star Wars, the force unleashed is flat out ridiculous. Only reason I would buy another Tower is to even out the room and have more headroom.

I asked Chad that question awhile back, here is what he said in his email.

"Whether you choose to add a second Valor or a Castle, I would choose to run them together rather than using one as a midbass module. The combined units will double your current midbass output. This will present a huge advantage in regards to "slam" and punch as well as dynamic capability during music and movies. If you cut off one subwoofer above 40-50 Hz you would only be gaining low end rather than reaping the rewards of even higher midbass potential.

Hopefully that helps point you in the right direction. Sorry again about my late reply. I look forward to your reply if you have more questions."

All the best,

Chad Kuypers
Epik Subwoofers

I decided I will be adding a second Valor to the fray.
post #4011 of 19636
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Originally Posted by ON IN II View Post

Here are some pics of my Conquest and the box it came in. My dog , Baine, you can use as a size reference weighs 75lbs.

Nice. Dog is 75lbs?
post #4012 of 19636
Hi, all.

My HT is about 2600 cu. ft. w/ no large doorways/openings. Would a single Castle or a single Tower be able to handle that space? The loudest I usually listen to movies on my current system is -10 volume & +9 bass. Thanks in advance for the advice.
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Originally Posted by kpoon View Post

Hi, all.

My HT is about 2600 cu. ft. w/ no large doorways/openings. Would a single Castle or a single Tower be able to handle that space? The loudest I usually listen to movies on my current system is -10 volume & +9 bass. Thanks in advance for the advice.

Those setting don't mean a thing. Is -10 volume calibrated to 75db? You listen to Ht or music primarly?But for 2600cu.ft I belive you need at least a castle. Depending on where the sub is to your seating and how loud you want it to go. But for the most part it will be loud enough. Ppl just like the overhead so it will shake your couch
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Here are some pictures of the Castle in my home. Put my cat (who is 16+ lbs) to try to give it some frame of reference. The room I have all this gear in is VERY large, so everything might look a little shrunken. Again, for perspective, the rack next to it is ~5' high.
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Another couple of pics.
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post #4016 of 19636
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Originally Posted by Ironmike86 View Post

Did you post any pics?

Yes a few, even a frequency response plot. Epik is a Knight.





What I had before Epik came into my life.



100"+ inches of snow last year...too.

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13.1 go low enough? Wish someone could compare/review Epik subs
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Originally Posted by Ironmike86 View Post

13.1 go low enough? Wish someone could compare/review Epik subs

Ya that is after Audyssey, before there is a big peak at 30Hz if I remember correctly. But my room after accounting for risers is only around 1500 cubic feet. YMWV.
post #4019 of 19636
I'd like to thank everyone here for all of the good info. I've been lurking for a while trying to make up my mind. I had a deal with my wife. Once I got the kitchen redone I was in the clear to order my new setup. Over the weekend I ordered Axiom M80 towers, 2 pairs of QS8 surrounds, a VP150 center and an Epic tower. I'll be hooking everything up to my Denon 3808CI as soon as it gets here. With everything that's been said here, I can't wait. Thanks again.
post #4020 of 19636
^ sound like a nice setup
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