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post #421 of 19476
ssabripo hasn't heard the conquest, hence why he can't wait to hear the impressions by an owner..I'm not sure if he's heard the a7-900 either.
I'd bet the a7-900 has a few db more output at certain frequencies but gets beat in other areas. Until someone compares them head to head though,its impossible to tell.
post #422 of 19476
Any news or reviews on the Epik Valor ? I would like to see some measurements. I'm just itching to get one.
post #423 of 19476
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by rossandwendy View Post

ssabripo, what are your thoughts on the Conquest compared to the dual-18" eD A7-900? With shipping added the Conquest is close enough in price that it makes an interesting comparison for someone with $2k to spend...

Cheers,
Ross

Ross, there isn't anyone AFAIK (myself included) that has heard the conquest and eD a7-900 side by side, so nobody will be able to tell you anything in that regard.

The Conquest is a single high excursion 18" driver with dual 6" ports, low tuned, tons of headroom and extension (see Nousaine's measurements). The eD has dual 18"s with lower excursion, larger enclosure, etc.

The conquest GP's from the Prototype Conquest were jaw dropping....Chad will post in due time I'm sure. At $1599, even a hard core DIYer like me would consider it a bargain.

Again, nobody has heard them, so I really can't answer that "subjective" question for you........all I know is that Chad's drivers in the past (Avalanche, havoc, atlas, etc) are some of the most accurate/cleanest, if not THE cleanest/most-accurate, drivers I've ever heard and used. So for me it is a safe bet to say the conquest driver will be high up there in SQ.
post #424 of 19476
BTW, reading the "blog" section on Epik's website gave rise to an interesting tidbit of information concerning the Valor subwoofers. To paraphrase :

"Several people have specifically asked if a pair these subwoofers will offer the same or more low end performance than a very popular and fantastic $3500 sealed subwoofer currently on the market."

I can only imagine that the subwoofer that is being referenced is the JL audio Fathom. If what they say is true about dual Valors then I will have a permanent grin on my face.
post #425 of 19476
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Originally Posted by Heinrich S View Post

"Several people have specifically asked if a pair these subwoofers will offer the same or more low end performance than a very popular and fantastic $3500 sealed subwoofer currently on the market."

I can only imagine that the subwoofer that is being referenced is the JL audio Fathom.

I was one of the several that asked Chad that specific question.

Although, to be fair -- the fact that we asked if a pair of Valors will offer the same or more low end performance than an F113 does not mean that it does perform the same way as an F113.
post #426 of 19476
Well, we'll find out, won't we ?
post #427 of 19476
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Originally Posted by Heinrich S View Post

Well, we'll find out, won't we ?

Well since "performance" includes sound quality, we'll only really find out if someone does a side-by side, head-to-head comparison!
post #428 of 19476
I wonder how a Valor or Knight will compare to my Paradigm PW2200 that I plan to replace. Should it be a good upgrade..
post #429 of 19476
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Originally Posted by mwolfe38 View Post

I just got off the phone with chad. Looks like my conquest will be shipping tomorrow. Its amazing how different it is working with a small company compared to a large company. I told chad my first name and he knew what i ordered (without looking it up or anything). Very cool.
Anyways, just out of curiousity, has anyone else on this forum ordered a conquest yet?

So you should get it by Sat or Monday. I too cannot wait to hear your impressions. I am praying that Chad sticks with his philosophy of bringing high end performance to the masses at an affordable price. I have the eD A5-350 which I love but have a feeling that I am going to start saving my $$$ for the Conquest to go into my main system and move the eD to my other system. Chad, please don't raise the price ! $1599 is very manageable, $3000 is not.
post #430 of 19476
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Originally Posted by Heinrich S View Post

Any news or reviews on the Epik Valor ? I would like to see some measurements. I'm just itching to get one.

Same here - I may get two!, but would really like a review.
post #431 of 19476
I guess he called me back while i was at school. He left a message with my wife that the sub should be here on monday... Ahh man this is going to be a long and boring weekend. I wish it would be here friday since i have the day off and monday I will be back in school in the morning.. I may take the afternoon off (or work from home) so that I'll be here when it comes.. There is no way my wife will be able to move it.
post #432 of 19476
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Originally Posted by mwolfe38 View Post

There is no way my wife will be able to move it.

There's no way you're going to be able to move it either...get some help.
post #433 of 19476
ahh, chad said he can move it on his own.. I'll just start hitting the weights. My wife won't mind... I'm pretty sure i can move it with it in a box (assuming its a normal cardboard box.. I have no stairs to go over. It should be pushable. My wife can help me push at least.. I can also borrow my inlaws dolly if I have to. I'll figure something out.
post #434 of 19476
furniture car @$29 Home Depot a must have for big subs and other stuff.
post #435 of 19476
Anyone hear anything from Cad lately?
post #436 of 19476
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Originally Posted by SoundsGood View Post

Anyone hear anything from Cad lately?

I was wondering the samething.
I want to see the dual 15" subs.
Ryan
post #437 of 19476
I haven't heard from chad directly since i called yesterday morning. However, the website says my conquest shipped. Crossing my fingers that it somehow arrives friday but i dont think so since chad said monday.
post #438 of 19476
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Originally Posted by Thunder-rush View Post

I wonder how a Valor or Knight will compare to my Paradigm PW2200 that I plan to replace. Should it be a good upgrade..

That's a heck of a sub you have. You better consider the tower for an upgrade.
post #439 of 19476
Over the Paradigm sub, your going to be in another league.
post #440 of 19476
My sub has shipped. According to the tracking website it won't be here until wednesday.. Oh well, no big deal. What is a BIG deal is the sub. According to the shipping invoice its 363 pounds.. Even if you include a pallet (what like 40 pounds) and the packaging (maybe 20-25 pounds), its a bit over the 250 pounds I was expecting. Maybe this sub is a bit heavier than I thought. It looks like I will be needing some help. Maybe i'll go pickup a hand truck or some moving equipment.
post #441 of 19476
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Originally Posted by mwolfe38 View Post

My sub has shipped. According to the tracking website it won't be here until wednesday.. Oh well, no big deal. What is a BIG deal is the sub. According to the shipping invoice its 363 pounds.. Holy sh*t. Even if you include a pallet (what like 40 pounds) and the packaging (maybe 20-25 pounds) How the heck does 250 pounds turn in to 363 pounds?? Maybe this sub is a bit heavier than Chad stated, either that or he's just got really heavy packaging.. or the measurements according to the shipping company are wrong. It looks like I will be needing some help. Maybe i'll go pickup a hand truck or some moving equipment.

That total shipping weight on the Conquest is correct based on a conversation I had today, as it's extremely well protected from damage in transit by a wood frame. The narrowest dimension of the exterior package is 36" so it will probably be neccesary to remove the packing before you take the sub through a standard 31-33" door inside the house. Using a hand truck, with a blanket protecting the sub, sounds like a good way to go.

Cheers,
Ross
post #442 of 19476
Thread Starter 
LOL...

you guys are in for a very pleasant surprise!
post #443 of 19476
Come on Sherv, spill the beans!

My max budget would represent a pair of Towers; however, a single Conquest is sure working on me...

Size Matters!

Larry

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Originally Posted by ssabripo View Post

LOL...

you guys are in for a very pleasant surprise!
post #444 of 19476
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by 04FLHRCI View Post

Come on Sherv, spill the beans!

My max budget would represent a pair of Towers; however, a single Conquest is sure working on me...

Size Matters!

Larry

with any sub manufacturer, there is always pro's and con's on a single higher capacity sub vs. dual smaller (yet still highly capable) subs.

with the ability to put them in different locations, thus helping with the FR and acoustical impact, among other things, makes the idea of having two subs (in this case, say, two Towers) a bit more appealing vs a single more powerful sub.

on the flip side, a single Conquest, for example, has massive amounts of headroom on its own, and will cleanly pressurize a decent size room at a smaller cost (and possibly footprint) than dual Towers...... and if budget permits, you could always add a second

same applies with any sub manufacturer quite honestly.....only you can really decide what's best in your situation. For me personally, the Towers are gargantuan as is for a commercial sub, and two of them, spread in a room, level matched and calibrated, properly EQ'd, will be just outstanding.
post #445 of 19476
Sherv,

I completely agree with your observations here; I wasn't looking for your advice on a Tower vs. Conquest comparo, I was referencing your apparent position of being in the know'! A great time to be a sub enthusiast in the market for new gear!!!

Larry


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Originally Posted by ssabripo View Post

with any sub manufacturer, there is always pro's and con's on a single higher capacity sub vs. dual smaller (yet still highly capable) subs.

with the ability to put them in different locations, thus helping with the FR and acoustical impact, among other things, makes the idea of having two subs (in this case, say, two Towers) a bit more appealing vs a single more powerful sub.

on the flip side, a single Conquest, for example, has massive amounts of headroom on its own, and will cleanly pressurize a decent size room at a smaller cost (and possibly footprint) than dual Towers...... and if budget permits, you could always add a second

same applies with any sub manufacturer quite honestly.....only you can really decide what's best in your situation. For me personally, the Towers are gargantuan as is for a commercial sub, and two of them, spread in a room, level matched and calibrated, properly EQ'd, will be just outstanding.
post #446 of 19476
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 04FLHRCI View Post

Sherv,

I completely agree with your observations here; I wasn't looking for your advice on a Tower vs. Conquest comparo, I was referencing your apparent position of being in the know'! A great time to be a sub enthusiast in the market for new gear!!!

Larry

only Chad, and those who own both the tower/conquest can truly tell you the difference I'm afraid Larry
post #447 of 19476
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Originally Posted by ssabripo View Post

LOL...

you guys are in for a very pleasant surprise!

Well are we gonna get to hear about this surprise today or are you gonna make me wait till monday?!
post #448 of 19476
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Well are we gonna get to hear about this surprise today or are you gonna make me wait till monday?!

I'm not sure if you are referring to me or ssabripo. As for me, you'll have to wait until monday, possibly even tuesday since i'll probably be setting it up monday. Its not likely that i'll even get to actually test it until friday of next week though, since i go to school during the day, and then work afterwards, getting home at around 6pm-8pm. Since I live in an apartment, and we have neighbors who are very nice and have always been nice with us (yet they get pissed off at the other neighbors who are very loud and obnoxious) i'm going to try and keep it that way. So i won't be able to blast this thing until the daytime, which will be fridays and weekends. And thats the only time i'll be able to push this thing past like 80db or so.
What i will do as soon as i get it, is take pictures. Given there are almost no real pictures of epik subs (besides the valor) i'm real excited to be the first to share with you guys the looks at least. I'm not expecting it to look great but hopefully it looks decent. I'm mostly concerned with the output, which i can't imagine would let me down.
post #449 of 19476
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Originally Posted by mwolfe38 View Post

I'm not sure if you are referring to me or ssabripo. As for me, you'll have to wait until monday, possibly even tuesday since i'll probably be setting it up monday. Its not likely that i'll even get to actually test it until friday of next week though, since i go to school during the day, and then work afterwards, getting home at around 6pm-8pm. Since I live in an apartment, and we have neighbors who are very nice and have always been nice with us (yet they get pissed off at the other neighbors who are very loud and obnoxious) i'm going to try and keep it that way. So i won't be able to blast this thing until the daytime, which will be fridays and weekends. And thats the only time i'll be able to push this thing past like 80db or so.
What i will do as soon as i get it, is take pictures. Given there are almost no real pictures of epik subs (besides the valor) i'm real excited to be the first to share with you guys the looks at least. I'm not expecting it to look great but hopefully it looks decent. I'm mostly concerned with the output, which i can't imagine would let me down.

Yeah I actually meant ssabripo, I thought he was referring to a surprise that chad had in store for us. I always enjoy pics tho
post #450 of 19476
Hey guys!

I have been busy all week working on paint fixtures. Sounds lame, but now I can paint a dozen Conquests at once without them touching the ground. It will speed things up over here considerably.

I will definitely answer all of the questions that have been asked here. I will read back through them later today and address them one at a time.

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According to the shipping invoice its 363 pounds.. Even if you include a pallet (what like 40 pounds) and the packaging (maybe 20-25 pounds), its a bit over the 250 pounds I was expecting. Maybe this sub is a bit heavier than I thought. It looks like I will be needing some help. Maybe i'll go pickup a hand truck or some moving equipment.

The Conquest is fully crated in 1/2 inch OSB and 2 x 4's with 2 inches of foam covering almost the entire speaker. The crate weighs a lot, so it still won't weigh as much as you think once it is out of the box. We make sure they are bulletproof when they leave this place.

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The narrowest dimension of the exterior package is 36" so it will probably be neccesary to remove the packing before you take the sub through a standard 31-33" door inside the house.

Nope. The crated subwoofer sits on a pallet when shipped. It allows us to forklift it onto the truck easily and prevents damage during shipping if the shipping company decides to move it around.

Once you get the subwoofer, you just clip the plastic strapping with a scissors and take it off the pallet. The width is only about 26.5 inches in the packaging. It will very easily get through a door.

We spent a lot of time thinking about the dimensions before it was made for this very reason. I just don't want people thinking it is three feet wide and can't fit through a door. It just happens that we over-protect the subwoofers when we ship them.
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