Official Epik Subwoofer Thread - Page 233

My Conquest powercord is the same way and I have tried a Monster Powerline400 and a Verrastarr Silver Reference with Furatech connectors and it was still very loose. I would have to say that is my only complaint about my Conquest and I have had it since 8/08. I have heard about people wrapping a bunch of electrical tape around the plug to make it fatter so it fits tighter into the plug but haven't felt comfortable enough to try it.
I got my Pop to get a Dynasty for his house/room, which is pretty open like mine, and his cord is the same also.

I have it with my Energy Veritas 2.3, 2.0 and PSB S50 surrounds and a Pioneer SC07. I twisted the sub 90degrees the other day so it is firing into our couch and a corner, moved some speakers a bit and changed speakers wires. I had to rerun MCACC and I had to turn the Conquest down to 10 o'clock and it set the sw level at -10. The Hulk will still rattle my neighbors awning when I have it turned up to -15 but I feel like a wuus for having it set so low. I have a 5500cu ft great room with a wide open kitchen that is 3000cu ft and a double wide foyer and a double door opening into the den that adds another 3000+ cu ft and it still "hits" no matter where you are.(even in the shower)

Now I need to get some inexpensive bass traps for the corner behind the couch as it is a bit boomy there and for the upper corner as well but I need something that the Wifey will approve and I can paint or it will be a no go.

Anybody have any suggestions? I would greatly appreciate it. I could even do a DIY trap or if there is a foam block I can buy and then cut I could do that as well but it can't be big or ugly.

Thanks for all the great posts and stories. I especially love to read about the "newbies" once they get them set up and hit in the chest for the first time.

You should feel pretty safe that if you order a Dynasty now that it would still be available in 6-12 months. The previous line up was out for a couple of years before it was changed, and even then the replacements for each model match up quite well to the previous model from what I've read and been told.

As a Conquest owner having two would be great but if I were to do it again I would probabaly get 2 Dynasty's. Unless the Conquest will seat 4 and I can get rid of the Dinning room table I just don't have the room for another.
But I could fit a pair of Dynasty's in there and would definately benifit from duals vs a single.

Call Chad and explain your dilemma ( I wish all of lifes choices were this tough) and I am sure he will help you out.

Either way you can't loose, at all!!
Good luck!

As Gov mentioned you want to use the input labeled "LFE" which then bypasses the subwoofers internal filter and makes the crossover control inactive.

John

As long as it doesn't come loose from the bass then it is fine with me. If I did it again, I would have gone with a Dynasty or maybe another Dragon.....hummm..

Well, I plugged the ports on my Phoenix last night and so far I don't hear any ticking/rattling while playing Saint Saens or the 16hz test tone. I am very surprised, and don't understand where this rattling is coming from.

As expected the 16hz organ note is no longer audible with the ports plugged. One thing I did notice when playing the 16hz test tone at higher levels is that the dishes in the cabinets are dancing around.

I plan on taking measurements with REW some time this week with the ports plugged.

Very interesting. Maybe at high SPL's with frequencies around the tuning point and lower the ports are working too hard and causing the port tubes to rattle in the cabinet? Perhaps, the ports could have been bigger than 4" and would combat this rattling?
So the 16hz tone is just felt now, and not both heard and felt?
I am looking foward to your REW results.

Looks Great! Any luck getting it dialed in, or a chance to crank it up a bit?

16hz has got to be really loud for you to hear it. I know in with mine what I hear is my room not the sub. What I feel is another matter. I think to hear the fundamental you need to be somewhere in the mid 90s. The Phoenix might get there. I've never tried it with my sealed Ultra. I've never tried to play those low tones for anything other than calibration.

yep i got it dialed in last night and watched a scene from RofTK and the beach bit from Saving Private Ryan dts and i think i got it figured out. i also had to redo the auto calibration on my elite. sub is now on 0 on the receiver and sounds nice. after work today i'm going to crank up a movie and see how it all sounds. sorry if the last second pic in my other post was a bit dark. i'll check the music side of things too with a cd or two. i like the sub so far. now to get it near ref level without getting some ringing in the ears

Considering we're all into subwoofers and extreme response.. I figured someone of you guys would like to gaze at these pictures: http://www.kipnis-studios.com/The_Ki...d/Gallery.html

There's 16.. PORTED 18" subs in use allowing response down to 1hz. Just sick! The theater was put together for around $6,000,000.

Whatever, that's nothing. and Mcintosh tube amps and a fan to cool them down. Big towers. sure. I'll buy that for a dollar. lol

In reference to the Phoenix rattling internally with <20hz material, I placed a call in to Chad so hopefully I will have his input on it soon.

lol, were you able to pull off a successful sub swap without your wife noticing? I noticed from your side by side picture a couple of pages back, they would look similar enough to the casual eye. Especially tucked away to the side like you have it.

By the way, I couldn't wait any longer. I went ahead and ordered my Sentinel today as well. When it gets here I may see how it sounds as a dual with the infinity sub it will replace. Please feel free to continue to post your thoughts and impressions, as they come. Hopefully they will be helpful in confirming my purchase decision.

well here i go with another short episode. oh and yes the swap went well. heck it's just a black box on floor that goes boom. couldn't get a big thing since it would be obvious and also i don't have much room for something big.
I put my receiver up to -10 and played Star Wars EP 1 the pod race chapter and The Incredibles intro to the omnidrone chapter. The stuff on my shelves in the room was shaking but not falling off. Good thing there. The sub hit all the lows and mids quite well without distorting. Adds so much power in the mix while watching stuff too. if i had a room just for theater with no front door and wood stove i'd have gotten two of these and stuck them up in the front. Definitely holds it own with high volume.

Hey, if you ever get down to Olympia, give me a PM before you come this way and you can stop in and check out my setup. I don't have anyone in my area to tell me how my sub(s) are doing so another input would be helpful to me.

Bill

I'm a long time lurker and this is my first post but I thought I might share some information to help you with your decision. I too have pondered dual Dynasties and considered them against a single Conquest or ED A7-900. I asked Chad about these comparisons and here is how he responded:

"Two Dynasty subwoofers will easily outperform a Conquest. Co-location will allow you to fiddle around with their frequency resposne at your listening position as well as a little bit more flexibility. I think that two Dynasty subwoofers will keep up if not outperform an A7-900. You've got similar power, driver size and quantity as well as cabinet size. The other advantages would be finish quality, and portability. I am biased of course. "

I am trying to fill a 7000 cubic foot space and asked Chad whether one Dynasty would work. Here is his response to that question:

"I think it would be best to start with a single Dynasty and go from there. If it can't get you there in regards to visceral impact due to your huge room size, a second one could be added at a later date. That way you only upgrade if you needed it."

Hope that helps.

I can attest to what Chad is saying. I have a Dynasty and a Tower and it is rediculous. Of course my room is only 2200 sqft. If your standing upstairs when the bass kicks in then you might think you were in an earthquake. I was actually in the upstairs bathroom when my family was watching a movie and I didn't expect the bass......good thing I was on a toilet cause it scared the sh$# out of me.

I'm curious. Have you chosen which sub(s) you're gonna go with yet.

Due to finances I'm about six months away from getting my subs. The dual Dynasties are my current favorite choice. However, I'm also considering a single JTR Captivator, Danley TH-SPUD, or the ED-A7-900 front firing version (the weight scares me though).

I don't know if this info will help but- I'm running a single Conquest in a 5000 cu ft room 12.5' x 40' x 10', it's narrow with no openings (three closed doors and no windows). I can't imagine any more sub than this in this room. It has never failed to impress with movies or music. I have a test tone that I play to show it off, it starts at 35hz and slopes down to 1hz. At high volumes it sounds like a 747 is landing on the roof and the look on people's faces is priceless. I think the alley-like shape of the room and putting the driver near the floor really helps to couple the sub with the room- lots of gain for only 1000watts.

^^ I need a man cave just like that.

Very nice man cave indeed !!!

I've seen those pics lots of times. And it's still stunning. I wonder if my Tower would sound different upside down .

I also wondered if my Dragon sounds different upside down.

Sorry, I couldn't help myself.

I once turned my Tower upside down and it would only play high freqs.

Well, I still have the ports plugged and cranked Saint Saens again last night. Still no ticking/rattling noise. I noticed that even with the ports plugged, the Phoenix still has respectable, audible output from about 18-19hz and up.

How about the 18, 19 and 20hz test tones, good? I am still waiting to hear from Chad...

Just got a call back from Chad and I told him about the rattling/ticking noise from the Phoenix. He stated he knew what I was talking about. He said it is the speaker wire tapping against the ports inside the cabinet. He said that he heard this in his shop once, figured it out and recently began changing the way the wire runs inside the cabinet. He stated that this is not a performance limitation in any way and offered for me to bring it in so he could remedy it if I wished. Also, he expained to me that if I remove one of the ports, I could get to the wire and move it away from the tubes.
I have not decided what I will do yet because I normally do not notice this rattling much from my listening position. The good news it is not a limitation of the Phoenix in any way . Finally, Chad said he will attempt to post on this thread later this week.

That's good new Gov. At least it's not a driver problem.

Just thought I would throw a post up here. I have listened to the SVS PB12-NSD, PC12-Plus and now the Epik Phoenix is mine after some reading of the posts here. It arrived today in absolute pristine condition. The foam protected the sub nicely and was abundant and the box wasn't in bad shape either. The Phoenix is gorgeous and wow that 18 inch driver is beautiful. I couldn't wait to fire it up. While calibrating I noticed a rattling coming from inside the cabinet. I was wondering what that could be after reading some of the rattling issues from Joe and Gov. Well I listened to music and no rattle. Then came The Dark Night and the Opening of Bolt. When the Joker revealed himself there was rattling, and the whole opener of bolt had rattling. I looked at the driver on excursion and noticed the sound was coinciding with the driver.

So I called Chad, the phone was answered on the first attempt and in no time I was talking to Chad. He stated that they have had a few people call about this. It should be the speaker wire rattling on one of the ports. He told me to take out one of the ports and feel for the wire from the driver to the brace that is before the amp. He said that my cabinet should be one where the rerouted the wire through one of the braces, which in turn it was. After feeling around I noticed that the speaker wire was vibrating on the cone of the driver. So I pulled back the wire a little and redirected some poly-fill between the wire and driver and then made sure the wire was well wrapped in poly-fill from the driver to the amp. I replaced the ports, and fired up the same material that I noticed the rattling on. No rattle was heard at all. Just the clean, effortless bass that I hear about on this forum.

I have to say that Chad was amazing help he said when I called him that he would make sure that I was taken care of and that we'll figure it out. So far the Phoenix is an amazing product and quite the bargain for the price. I just thought I should post to thank all of you for your posts that led me to the Phoenix and a big thanks to Chad for helping me solve the rattle. So far the experience with Epik has been nothing short than great and I look forward to using this product for a long time. I think that if anyone is one the fence with an Epik product they should give it a shot. The damage chance is small for the sub in shipping and they will make sure that you are a satisfied customer. Sorry for the long post just thought I'd share some positive feedback from a satisfied customer.

PS. Pics will follow soon.