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post #7321 of 19475
5/24/09 at 9:30pm
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Originally Posted by kenshin-dono View Post

chad is the owner of epik? how do you guys talk to him, lol. Maybe he can point me to the best one for my setup

Go to epiksubwoofers.com and click the contact link at the top.

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Originally Posted by kenshin-dono View Post

my fronts actually have built in subs so they have good bass response. Would having such a high frequency response be a problem with those? im assuming i can tune it down manually or something? to 150 or so max ilke most other sealed around this lvl?

That's just showing the subs upper end capability it doesn't mean it will play that far up after setting the crossover point which is what I'm assuming you mean by tune it down manually, everything above will be rolled off.
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post #7322 of 19475
5/24/09 at 11:36pm
hmm tnx for the answers on the LFE lvl. anyone know a good guide on setting up the bass managment in your recievers?

i was just going to call epik tuesday, but maybe sending an email would be the best bet? didnt know the friggin owner answered them, lol

i think im narrowing it down, im looking between the vanq/sent (still not positive if iw ant ported or sealed) and ED. probably the a3-300 since its on sale, but hell i can actually get the 15" a5-350 for the price of the sentinal

or possibly the svs PB12-NSD

i guess this really has me questioning whats so great about the epiks. svds and eds are recomended pretty well and far cheaper, whats really so special about the epiks?
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post #7323 of 19475
5/25/09 at 12:28am
According to Chad the Sentinel ($799) is comparable in performance to the SVS PB12-Plus ($1139), though it obviously doesn't look quite as nice. However, it's about the size of the SVS PB10-NSD. Few subs as small as the Sentinel are able to produce that much output and deep extension, and none that I know of can do it at the Sentinel's price. Epik's new lineup is geared toward very high performance while keeping the enclosure sizes smaller than a coffin (some subs really DO resemble coffins!). The A5-350 might squeeze out another dB or two of output in the mid/upper bass, but all reports point toward the Sentinel being a heck of a performer. If a moderate form factor is a must along with great output and deep extension, the Sentinel is an amazing deal.
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post #7324 of 19475
5/25/09 at 6:54pm
So I think I've read every post in this thread that has the word Dragon in it and came away pretty positive about it. I know there was someone (Another Matt I believe) that was expecting a little more output than what he was measuring.

I'd like to hear from the owners if they are still happy with their Dragon. I'm going to be replacing two DIY subs (fairly big (7cu/ft+ ported 12") with something smaller to reclaim some of my living room and a couple of these or the Submersive seem to fit the bill.
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post #7325 of 19475
5/25/09 at 7:53pm
I first stumbled upon this forum quite by accident (google seach for info on an Acoustech sub) and have read religiously since then. I thought I was in the market for a budget ~$300 sub. After I started reading my acceptable outlay kept creeping up. I have read and re-read all I could while looking for a good sub that will handle music well (as well as HT). After considering an Acoustech/BIC, Cadence, SVS, Ed, HSU, etc, I pulled the trigger on a Sentinel. . .Chad's responses to my emails and the US construction totally sold me (along with Epik's reputation as a heavy hitter). I probably could have been happy with a less expensive sub--ignorance can be bliss sometimes--but I am looking forward to hooking this bad guy up. The only downside I see is that the Sentinel is a compact sub when size isn't a factor for me--so I wonder if I could have gotten about the same results with a bigger but less expensive sub?

The bad part is that I was pretty happy with my infinity SAT1100 (the sub was definitely weak) until I started reading--now I will likely be upgrading the speakers too! . . And I now find myself needing an SPL meter!
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post #7326 of 19475
5/25/09 at 7:57pm
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Originally Posted by WantMore View Post

I first stumbled upon this forum quite by accident (google seach for info on an Acoustech sub) and have read religiously since then. I thought I was in the market for a budget ~$300 sub. After I started reading my acceptable outlay kept creeping up. I have read and re-read all I could while looking for a good sub that will handle music well (as well as HT). After considering an Acoustech/BIC, Cadence, SVS, Ed, HSU, etc, I pulled the trigger on a Sentinel. . .Chad's responses to my emails and the US construction totally sold me (along with Epik's reputation as a heavy hitter). I probably could have been happy with a less expensive sub--ignorance can be bliss sometimes--but I am looking forward to hooking this bad guy up. The only downside I see is that the Sentinel is a compact sub when size isn't a factor for me--so I wonder if I could have gotten about the same results with a bigger but less expensive sub?

The bad part is that I was pretty happy with my infinity SAT1100 (the sub was definitely weak) until I started reading--now I will likely be upgrading the speakers too! . . And I now find myself needing an SPL meter!

sweet! i'll have a Sentinel in 2 days. can't wait! it's an addiction. get out now while you still can.
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post #7327 of 19475
5/25/09 at 8:08pm
Theres no Escape
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post #7328 of 19475
5/25/09 at 9:13pm
upgrading is a deadly disease. I love my Sentinel so far. i know it was more than i could afford but no regrets with it. i was at my friends last night and he has two similar jbl subs like i used to have. i watched part of TDK and i all i could do was notice how boomy those things were. I definitely don't miss my old sub. The only thing i noticed in his room was how good the movie sounded along with having a sub in the front and one in the back half of the room made the lows sound balanced. My room is acoustically challenged compared to his but what i'll have to do is get another sub for the front to balance things out. That'll have to wait though since i might just be replacing my tv. found a 73" dlp for a good price. 2009 model. not sure what sub to get though. maybe another sentinel since i only will have space for a 14-15 inch sub. I talked to Pete over at HSU and he said an MBM-12 won't work too well in front. but that's the only other sub that would fit and does mid range well.
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post #7329 of 19475
5/25/09 at 9:44pm
WantMore, congrats on a great sub! You are definately hooked now
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post #7330 of 19475
5/25/09 at 10:17pm
Thanks Gov. I can hardly wait for the ship notice. . .I have been putting off watching any movies because I don't wanna watch without the LFE. . .

. . .and yes TF, I am doomed. . .I fear that this is only the beginning! I have been playing around with the idea of turning my basement (needs lotsa work) into a home theatre. I have this crazy vision of building a concrete planter around the room and growing various tropical plants, bamboo, and such and disguising the speakers in totem poles set into the vegetation. . .Of course that means the room wouldn't be great for home theatre but about 11 hours per day as I would be using timed lights for the photoperiodic plants. . .
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post #7331 of 19475
5/25/09 at 10:36pm
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Originally Posted by Matt34 View Post

So I think I've read every post in this thread that has the word Dragon in it and came away pretty positive about it. I know there was someone (Another Matt I believe) that was expecting a little more output than what he was measuring.

I'd like to hear from the owners if they are still happy with their Dragon. I'm going to be replacing two DIY subs (fairly big (7cu/ft+ ported 12") with something smaller to reclaim some of my living room and a couple of these or the Submersive seem to fit the bill.

I'm extremely happy with my Dragon. It still performs every time. It takes a beating and comes back for more. After a month of having it, it still puts a smile on my face. For music and movies, it performs really well. Although the Phoenix, will dig a little deeper for movies, the Dragon has great chest pounding tight bass. For the price of a submersive, you can have two Dragon's! If I had the space, I'll get another one.
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post #7332 of 19475
5/25/09 at 11:53pm
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I'm extremely happy with my Dragon. It still performs every time. It takes a beating and comes back for more. After a month of having it, it still puts a smile on my face. For music and movies, it performs really well. Although the Phoenix, will dig a little deeper for movies, the Dragon has great chest pounding tight bass. For the price of a submersive, you can have two Dragon's! If I had the space, I'll get another one.

Yeah, I'm leaning towards the Dragon just for that fact. I'm a big fan of multiple subs!

Now if I can get my other subs sold...
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post #7333 of 19475
5/26/09 at 8:05am
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Originally Posted by mcjasonb View Post

sweet! your room is a little bit bigger than mine so that's great to hear. so you said played that scene from kung foo panda at reference level?

Yes, I played that scene at reference. It was very satisfying. I think the receiver sub channel trim was at about -2.
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post #7334 of 19475
5/26/09 at 9:19am
I am interested in the Phoenix and it says on the site "Boundary loaded ported high output design". What exactly does that mean as i see any ports from the pic. Does anyone have pics to share?
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post #7335 of 19475
5/26/09 at 9:31am
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Originally Posted by is250sp View Post

I am interested in the Phoenix and it says on the site "Boundary loaded ported high output design". What exactly does that mean as i see any ports from the pic. Does anyone have pics to share?

The ports are on the bottom. Dual 4". It is raised by feet 1" off the ground.
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post #7336 of 19475
5/26/09 at 9:51am
Looks like this underneath.

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post #7337 of 19475
5/26/09 at 10:27am
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Originally Posted by SharpOne View Post

Yes, I played that scene at reference. It was very satisfying. I think the receiver sub channel trim was at about -2.

awesome! i'll be happy if i can play a movie at -10 or so from reference and have it sound like it's not being strained one bit. so thats great news.
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post #7338 of 19475
5/26/09 at 2:30pm
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Originally Posted by mcjasonb View Post

awesome! i'll be happy if i can play a movie at -10 or so from reference and have it sound like it's not being strained one bit. so thats great news.

Yeah, I was a little hesitant at cranking it up that high, 30 minutes after it was out of the box. I'm not sure if there is much of a break in period or not. The Sentinel and Vanquish both have the aluminum cones, so maybe there isn't much of a break in period.

Anyone know if that would make a difference, or if there is much break in time with subs?
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post #7339 of 19475
5/26/09 at 2:35pm
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Originally Posted by SharpOne View Post

Yeah, I was a little hesitant at cranking it up that high, 30 minutes after it was out of the box. I'm not sure if there is much of a break in period or not. The Sentinel and Vanquish both have the aluminum cones, so maybe there isn't much of a break in period.

Anyone know if that would make a difference, or if there is much break in time with subs?

all speakers do break in during the first few hours. it doesn't mean you have to baby them though. what it means is that the suspension will loosen up a little bit after some time. the cone has nothing to do with it though, it's just the surround and spiders that will "break in". just run it like you're gonna run it right from the start, no reason to baby it in the beginning.
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post #7340 of 19475
5/26/09 at 3:02pm
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Originally Posted by mcjasonb View Post

all speakers do break in during the first few hours. it doesn't mean you have to baby them though. what it means is that the suspension will loosen up a little bit after some time. the cone has nothing to do with it though, it's just the surround and spiders that will "break in". just run it like you're gonna run it right from the start, no reason to baby it in the beginning.

Sounds like a plan! I didn't really get a chance to do much else with it the rest of this past weekend. Most of my gaming is done at night and I can't crank it like I can on the rare occasions of daytime playing when no one is home. No full movies this past weekend either. I should get a chance to crank it up for an extended period this coming weekend.

Maybe by then you and Jake will have your subs. Perhaps one or both of you will have more analytical information to present.
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post #7341 of 19475
5/26/09 at 3:22pm
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Originally Posted by SharpOne View Post

Sounds like a plan! I didn't really get a chance to do much else with it the rest of this past weekend. Most of my gaming is done at night and I can't crank it like I can on the rare occasions of daytime playing when no one is home. No full movies this past weekend either. I should get a chance to crank it up for an extended period this coming weekend.

Maybe by then you and Jake will have your subs. Perhaps one or both of you will have more analytical information to present.

i'll have mine tomorrow afternoon. i'll set it up right away. not sure when i'll get to really crank it though. that all depends on who is home and when i get an empty house.

i will put up some initial first impressions tomorrow night. then after i get some time with it i will put up a nice review with REW measurements both before and after some EQing. i already know from my last sub that i'll need to do a nice cut at around 52hz or so, so i ordered an ED eQ.2. i'll have that later on in the week.
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post #7342 of 19475
5/26/09 at 4:38pm
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Originally Posted by is250sp View Post

I am interested in the Phoenix and it says on the site "Boundary loaded ported high output design". What exactly does that mean as i see any ports from the pic. Does anyone have pics to share?

Boundry loaded means, per Chad, that the ports are located near the boundry or edge of the sub, and that the design will allow the ports to behave as they are much larger than they actually are, almost as if it was fully slotted..
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post #7343 of 19475
5/26/09 at 4:46pm
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Originally Posted by fab5valentine View Post

Boundry loaded means, per Chad, that the ports are located near the boundry or edge of the sub, and that the design will allow the ports to behave as they are much larger than they actually are, almost as if it was fully slotted..

i take it to mean that the ports are loaded off of a boundary, in this case the floor.
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post #7344 of 19475
5/26/09 at 10:28pm
quick question, do these come with a manual? i really want to get the sentinal but the 800 dollar price is a bit of a turn off, since the svs pp12-nsd and the ed a3-300 are both on sale right now, while the sent is not.

if it doesn't have a manual either i may just go for one of the other two. I dont know much about audio gear and really need info on what all the knobs, phase control, ect all do
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post #7345 of 19475
5/26/09 at 10:56pm
The Epiks do not come with manuals AFAIK. However, there are many posts here on this forum that can help, and people here can also help you out if you still don't understand. Most powered subwoofers should be set up in a very similar way (in terms of methodology), so a manual for just about any powered sub should give you all of the information you need learn how to set up your sub, regardless of which one you get.
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post #7346 of 19475
5/27/09 at 12:10am
Not to mention, the Epik subs barely have any knobs when compared to the SVS amps that have PEQ and the like. Epik's truly are plug-n-play, nothing to be worried about.
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post #7347 of 19475
5/27/09 at 5:11am
Manuals?
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post #7348 of 19475
5/27/09 at 6:17am
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Originally Posted by pcmike View Post

Not to mention, the Epik subs barely have any knobs when compared to the SVS amps that have PEQ and the like. Epik's truly are plug-n-play, nothing to be worried about.

They are very easy to set up. I the hardest part is where you put it.
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post #7349 of 19475
5/27/09 at 10:31am
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Originally Posted by kenshin-dono View Post

quick question, do these come with a manual? i really want to get the sentinal but the 800 dollar price is a bit of a turn off, since the svs pp12-nsd and the ed a3-300 are both on sale right now, while the sent is not.

if it doesn't have a manual either i may just go for one of the other two. I dont know much about audio gear and really need info on what all the knobs, phase control, ect all do

I was indecisive between the SVS pb10-nsd, pb12-nsd and the Epik Sentinel. I liked the price of the SVS subs as well, but I really wanted the 12, but in the size of the 10, and I wanted the bang of the 12, but in the size of the 10. Ultimately, it seemed I could have both if I went with the Sentinel. It costs a bit more, but I wanted the smaller footprint.
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post #7350 of 19475
5/27/09 at 10:46am
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Originally Posted by SharpOne View Post

Ultimately, it seemed I could have both if I went with the Sentinel. It costs a bit more, but I wanted the smaller footprint.

Has anyone gotten their Sentinel in yet and can provide a review? Thanks!
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