Official Epik Subwoofer Thread - Page 247

Originally Posted by lalakersfan34

Great track on a great album by an amazing group of musicians. It kicks like crazy in my tiny <1000 cubic foot room with my Castle

BTW, if you have the special edition of the album listen to the DVD with 5.1 Dolby Digital. And you thought the kick drum kicked hard on the CD...it'll practically knock you back out of your seat in DD.

Originally Posted by mcjasonb

it's a good cd. it is recorded quite hot and rough though. it is a fun cd to listen to, but there is clipping everywhere. i have a pair of Seas aluminum tweeters in my car on 100 watts (rms) per channel and they don't hide anything. it's not quite as noticeable on a warmer sounding system, but it's there.

i still think Awake and Scenes From a Memory are the best 2 cd's from them. they are much more dynamic sounding recordings.

i bet Systematic Chaos kicks ass with a castle in a 1000 cubic ft room. i couldn't imagine.

Originally Posted by lalakersfan34

I agree that Systematic Chaos runs into some clipping but the music is quite good. Of course I tend to like all of their music so perhaps I'm not the best critic . I'm looking forward to their new release this summer!

Originally Posted by mcjasonb

it is good music. DT is one of a kind, that's for sure! i am looking forward to some new stuff as well, i just hope it's mastered better than the last one. Systematic Chaos really sounds like a mess in my car. but the new one will be a day one purchase for me.

Originally Posted by pcmike

So.. I'm getting a little scared. I use my Dragon in conjunction with a HTPC for almost all playback (except HD Cable) and for Blu-rays I use Arcsoft TotalMedia Theater, but for everything else I use MediaPlayer Home Cinema. Just so you know I use a Denon 3808CI to control everything. Anyhow, in MPHC if I playback flacs or mp3s or what not, the sound is going through AC3Filter and in AC3filter there is a "bass redirection" option, which supposedly allows you to redirect all freqs under a certain value to the LFE channel. Anyhow, for months now I've never used this setting and I always thought the bass from music and what not was lacking, but I just dismissed it. Today however, I enabled this option and set it to 80hz and holy crap.. the Dragon just freaking POUNDS.... to the point that I feel like I'm beating up on it incrediblely bad. The Dragon is set to -5 in my receiver (after running Audyssey) and the volume on the back is at about 10-11 o'clock. It's just there is so much damn bass and the surround on the cone gets so stiff and it just doesn't give up that I literally feel like I'm damaging my Dragon. I don't hear any strange noises or anything, just a ton of bass. Does anyone know what I'm talking about with AC3filter and bass redirection? I'm thinking that maybe AC3filter is juicing up the signal its sending to the LFE when I enable bass redirection or something (but all the other settings in AC3filter for gain and what not are all at 0, no boosting of any sort is being applied per settings), is this possible? I'm just completely blown away at how much bass there is with this setting enabled... I'm not use to this.

Originally Posted by Ron Temple

A couple ways you can find the limits...

Quick and easy...run a bass heavy demo like WOTW Pod emergence, just the sub. You've got a plethora of bass frequencies with that DTS track. Run it at -15, record the peaks, C weighted and fast. Bump the MV 3dbs and run it again. If you get all of it, bump it another 2...and so on, until the bass doesn't get any louder...or more thorough...

...run tones or sweeps starting at -15, then move it up the scale. As the FR starts changing, you'll be reaching the limits. As long as you do this slowly and back off when you're there, you should visually see compression start without any danger of clipping the amp or bottoming the sub.

It's just for sh*ts and giggles, because I agree, it's too loud for normal playback.

Originally Posted by Jakeman02

I may try the latter method over the weekend while I have REW hooked up. What's the best mic distance for this 1 meter? and should I get the mic level height to the center of the driver pointed at the driver or not worry about the height and leave it on the floor?
My lp is aprox 3 meters from the sub and obviously thats going to introduce the room more but I'll get it from there also just for kicks. Just wanted to find out the most accurate way without taking the sub outside (which isn't going to happen).

Originally Posted by LilGator

What's the largest room someone has used an Epik sub in recently?

I have a 16x25x10-20 (vaulted) loft that will house my theater, and it's also open to the living room, dining/kitchen below.

We're talking in the neighborhood of 6-8000 cubic feet for the room itself, of course extending to open areas below easily 10-12K cubic feet or more...

Since the Conquest isn't in stock, it sounds like I'd need a handful of Dynasty's which would be getting a bit ridiculous. Is it even worth it? I'd probably need a handful of Conquests even if they were available. :/

Originally Posted by LilGator

No "Epik" large rooms then?

I did some actual measurements and looks like I overshot on the room itself, which is ~5000 cubic feet, but one wall (loft) is open to at least another 6-8K in the house (living room with open ceiling beside loft is 5K itself, plus kitchen/dining below actual loft).

Originally Posted by LilGator

No "Epik" large rooms then?

I did some actual measurements and looks like I overshot on the room itself, which is ~5000 cubic feet, but one wall (loft) is open to at least another 6-8K in the house (living room with open ceiling beside loft is 5K itself, plus kitchen/dining below actual loft).

Originally Posted by Gov

I think (2) Phoenix subwoofers would rock in your room

Originally Posted by Gov

I think (2) Phoenix subwoofers would rock in your room

Originally Posted by mcjasonb

nah, get dual dynasty's.

Originally Posted by Tom Bley

F@@k it! Dual Conquests when they're back! Bye, bye, great room.

Originally Posted by mcjasonb

i would have said dual conquests but i knew they aren't available right now. i'd think dual phoenix's would be awesome. my Sentinel is plenty for me in my size room, but a phoenix would have been cool to have.

Originally Posted by Tom Bley

The Sentinel looks like a great performer. I wonder how it sounds compared to the SVS PB12-NSD that I have now. I like the smaller footprint the sentinel has. I'm looking at the 15" woofer in my mains right now and just imagining how big that 18" sub looks! I gotta have one or two

Originally Posted by mcjasonb

nah, get dual dynasty's.

Originally Posted by Tom Bley

That's what I'm actually thinking of doing.

Originally Posted by Tom Bley

The Sentinel looks like a great performer. I wonder how it sounds compared to the SVS PB12-NSD that I have now. I like the smaller footprint the sentinel has. I'm looking at the 15" woofer in my mains right now and just imagining how big that 18" sub looks! I gotta have one or two

Originally Posted by LilGator

Anyone here have some of the new sub lineup with a 5000 cubic foot room or larger? I'd definitely be interested to hear how dual Phoenix's fare in your room Tom. At the moment I'm thinking starting off with a Dynasty, and adding more until I crave no more ... have no wallet ... or can't hear anymore.

Originally Posted by math wizard

I have an Epik Knight. Is it OK to use a surge protector/filter with it? Or does the amp in the sub have a built-in surge protector/filter? I have a Belkin PF30L (AP11000-10) surge protector with an available high current outlet. Does anyone have any knowledge in this area or knows what the manufacturer reccomends? Thanks for any responses.

Originally Posted by TnTBigman

The only reason not to use Surge P's with your sub is if your getting a hum from the sub when on. Otherwise it's perfectly safe.