Official Epik Subwoofer Thread - Page 263

Originally Posted by kaczmarczyk

Ok, spoke to Chad again tonight after a crawl test with Revenge of the Sith didn't produce any changes for my sub location. Based upon the fact that my sub is rumbling and being felt on different floors of the house Chad believes the reason I am not feeling the bass is the Dynasty is not pressurizing my room and I need an additional sub to get that "bass felt" feeling I am trying to experience I'm disappointed to hear this. I might try one of my neighbor's subs, or a sub from the auido shop near me, to compare. This being my first real sub I really can't make a fair comparison on what I might be missing or what the Dynasty is giving me that these other subs potentially can not.

Oh no, am I becoming a bass head??? Am I going to become one the forum members who's always going to be looking for more bass? Do I need to seek help now to kill the addiction?

Originally Posted by theelviscerator

Are you getting excursion from the driver...if the driver looks like its trying to smack the wall and you still don't have bass...its def too small....

Does it flap your pants leg when you stand in front of it? about 1 foot away....you should be getting what 120 db or so @ 1ft?

Originally Posted by madman808

Is there a big difference between the Sentinel and the Vanquish? I'm sure there is but I guess I'm trying to figure out what the numbers mean and what to expect. The only difference between the two seems to be that the Vanquish is sealed and goes from 20-500Hz, and the Sentinel is ported and goes from 18-200Hz.

Originally Posted by fab5valentine

Another Q? Re> LFE

I went to set the LFE to 120 hrtz. and on my AVR is say LFE+Mains and it goes to 250 hrtz. I set it to 120 anyway, but I'm confused again..

Also I was getting 106-108 db peaks around -05 on the RatShack meter.. Iron Man cave scene. What is that corrected?

-fab5

Originally Posted by GreggyVT

Go back 3-5 pages in this thread. I posted a detailed comparison between the two quoted directly from Chad.

Found it: It's Here

Originally Posted by madman808

Thanks for that! I was already leaning towards the Sentinel but that post just makes me feel better about it. What's the difference between the Vanquish going to 500Hz and the Sentinel going to 200Hz? Does that just mean that the Vanquish has a higher range?

Originally Posted by mcjasonb

the Sentinel is a better choice if you want to use it for HT. the vanquish should be able to play better up above 200hz. you can run into problem running high with a ported design because of port resonance. it's a non issue though because nobody crosses their sub that high anyway. the Sentinel is an Awesome little sub. i absolutely love mine, both for music and for movies. it's just a winner all around.

Originally Posted by mcjasonb

the Sentinel is a better choice if you want to use it for HT. the vanquish should be able to play better up above 200hz. you can run into problem running high with a ported design because of port resonance. it's a non issue though because nobody crosses their sub that high anyway. the Sentinel is an Awesome little sub. i absolutely love mine, both for music and for movies. it's just a winner all around.

Originally Posted by SharpOne

+1 on the Sentinel love!

I just watched a few scenes from The Dark Knight, one of them being the hospital explosion scene near the end. Very nice at -14. There is definitely more there than my previous sub was capable of playing.

Originally Posted by fab5valentine

Another Q? Re> LFE

I went to set the LFE to 120 hrtz. and on my AVR is say LFE+Mains and it goes to 250 hrtz. I set it to 120 anyway, but I'm confused again..

Also I was getting 106-108 db peaks around -05 on the RatShack meter.. Iron Man cave scene. What is that corrected?

-fab5

Originally Posted by WantMore

I started doing some tweaking with my Sentinel. For most HT it sounds pretty darn good and with some types of music my system sounds fine (acoustic music: folk and the like) but others just sounds kinda washed out (basically hard rock and heavy metal).

I downloaded some test tones (been too cheap/broke to buy a sound meter yet). I played some music to adjust everything to comfy listening levels for comparison (-25 on my Harman Kardon AVR 254). Just by ear I discovered that there isn't much output in the 20Hz range, decent in the 30s, a big spike at 40Hz, and then my system has a major null at ~100Hz. I think one of the damping pads would help down low (I'm getting a lot of resonance with the wood floors) Also, I think the null at 100Hz is what is making the music seem thin--especially heavy metal because thats where a lot of the driving guitar seems to fall. I'm gonna try upping the crossover on the speakers to 100Hz from 80Hz to see if that helps fill in the void.

I have to say that I was friggin' amazed how much the base did vary from position to position--especially the dead zone in the center of the room.

Originally Posted by stepyourgameup

Depending on your main speakers, you aren't gonna get alot of slam in the 80-150hz region with your sub set to 80hz crossover. That is why some people resort to dual subs to not only flatten the frequency range, but to also add more slam in the mid bass region. If you can't afford a second sub at this time, then up the crossover of your sub to 100 or 120 to help fill that void. You also could try moving the sub a little. The null could be caused by your room.

Originally Posted by mcjasonb

WOW!!! i just watched Master and Commander and OMG!!!! never heard anything like it. i watched the whole movie at -10 (with the sub about 2-3db hot) and it was amazing. the cannon blasts were so sick! the whole movie just sounded amazing. it wasn't overly done like most of the new movies these days. there was no bass where there shouldn't be bass. simply the best sounding, most realistic sounding movie i have heard to date. it made me feel like i was there. reference material for sure. the Sentinel handled it like a champ.

Originally Posted by thirdeye11

Absolutely one of my favorites for all the reasons you stated. I wish the movie itself was more entertaining. I'm not huge on the time period.

Originally Posted by tanev

I receved my Dragon this past Thursday and unfortunately did not have much time to play with it since I had a dental surgery on Friday. I have a question about a proper hookup to my Denon 3808 CI Receiver. In contract to my previous sub, the Dragon has 2 RCA inputs "Crossover" and "LFE" which one do I need to use? I would immagine that "LFE" will only play dedicated LFE channel whereas "Crossover" could be used to set the bass from all mains to go to the sub. Is the "Crossover" option same as "LFE+Mains" on the Receiver? Any help with proper setup will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Peter

Originally Posted by Snowmanick

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The full LFE signal will be played via the sub as the LFE max freq setting is at 120 Hz so it is playing the full signal encoded (sub permitting of course). The signal in the front left will play from 300 Hz to 80 Hz from the front left (a little lower really as like I said it is not a brick wall crossover point) and below 80 Hz will be redirected from the front left to the subwoofer. The front left still is pulling its metaphorical weight and handing over just the frequencies that are below the crossover.

Originally Posted by jephdood

Looking to downsize a little bit from a Tower. If anyone in WA might be interested, let me know.

Originally Posted by crazy joe divola

Snowmanick,

Great explaination. I can't believe how complicated Receivers have become. I am glad you cleared the confusion on the LFE crossover setting. I have a Denon 2808 and in the Speaker Setup Crossover settings (7/5.1 settings), I can set the LFE crossover frequency up to 250 Hz. I thought the max was 120 hz which is what I currently have it set to? Shall I set the LFE crossover frequency to 250hz?

Joe

Originally Posted by KlipschHead281

Downsize? Is there such a thing?? Too bad you're not near Chicago, I'd jump on that!

Originally Posted by jephdood

I know. Downsizing is downright blasphemy. But I really am not utilizing this thing anywhere NEAR its potential.

You know, Seattle is downright beautiful this time of year...

Originally Posted by KlipschHead281

...I put another subwoofer in this house and I may have to live in it.